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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 02:04 PM
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Senator won't let God 'slip away' from policy (Brownback)
From: The Grand Rapids Press


HOLLAND -- It's early, three years until the next presidential campaign. But at a dinner speech at the Holiday Inn on Wednesday, U.S. Senator Sam Brownback showed why he is establishing himself as a darling of religious conservatives among presidential hopefuls.

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He spoke of nurturing the "culture of life" that religious conservatives have made their political anthem, and also of the "culture of death" that he said unnamed opponents embraced.

He exhorted Republicans to hold tight to traditional values as Democrats try to strip God from the public square. "We can't let it slip away," he said. "And we're not going to let it slip away."

http://www.mlive.com/news/grpress/index.ssf?/base/news-6/1115308203136550.xml



This guy is really scary. If he gets into the White House, he'll make George W. Bush look like FDR.
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 02:06 PM
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1. He is scary. Unlike Bush, he really WOULD like to see a
theocratic government. He wouldn't just give lip service to the religious right ... he'd actually try to ram their agenda through. A man like that shouldn't have a prayer getting elected, but in today's political climate you never know... :shrug:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 02:07 PM
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2. He'll have as much chance as Buchanan did
Too many people *don't* want a theocracy.

We need to focus on controlling the House and Senate.
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 02:16 PM
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3. Or the other Pat, Pat Robertson
In 1988, the good Reverend Robertson spent a million dollars on a presidential campaign that got one delegate. I just don't think there are enough fundies and other fools to elect President Elmer Gantry.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 05:01 PM
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13. We need to focus on the family!
/joke
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 02:19 PM
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4. The thing about guys like this is, they aren't "stealth"
Edited on Thu May-05-05 02:21 PM by phantom power
They don't just engage in lip-service, or "dog-whistle" politics, they're right out of the closet about what nutcases they are.

That makes them less dangerous, since they turn off the sane majority.


In fact, it would be beneficial, if he or somebody like him runs Independent. It would wedge the GOP away from their fundy base.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 02:22 PM
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6. Well, That's True
But in 1999 and 2000 I thought there was no way a mentally retarded man would become president of the United States of America... but here we are.

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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 02:24 PM
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8. Too true, too true.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 02:19 PM
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5. isn't he the guy
Isn't he one of the senators that lives in some sort of DC area home funded by a RW religious organization?
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 02:24 PM
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7. He's tight with Opus Dei, though I'm not sure he's a member
He converted to Catholicism a couple of years ago, was a hardshell Baptist before that.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 02:26 PM
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9. When Stern had that "coming out" last year...
When Howard Stern had that coming out against Bush early last year, I remember Brownback was one of the guys that attacked Stern... and, Stern reported something about how he lived in some DC area home that was subsidized by a religious group.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 02:28 PM
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10. Opus Dei
Brownback and Man-on-Dog share their digs, IIRC.

Scary group.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 02:36 PM
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12. two men sharing digs?
Isn't that a little, um, I don't know, gay?
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 02:32 PM
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11. Brown-butt will never...
...make it through the primaries. If a McCain or fairly moderate Republican runs in the primary (which you know will happen) they will probably emerge as the winner. Why? People are starting to realize Bush and his administration is a joke.

Of course they will say they support SHRUB because they voted for him. No one wants to admit they made a mistake in who they voted for. But I can see a lot of people closing the curtain on a voting booth (owned by Diebold of course) and NOT voting for a freak right-wing religious nut-bag.

Once people have had enough of economic bad news, foriegn policy bad news, education bad news, health care bad news, social security bad news, ethics bad news and on and on and on...they will start fogetting about the voting for right-wing religious nut jobs.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 05:10 PM
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14. Uh-oh! There goes God! Someone catch him!
He's---he's---SLIPPING AWAY!!!!!!

Oh God, there goes God. Like a child's balloon carelessly flying up into the ether and "slipping the surly bonds of earth."

Maybe God is tired of being used as a political weapon. Or maybe he just slipped out for some fresh air.

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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 05:17 PM
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15. This vermin thinks he can order Gawd around?
What a fuckwad...
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 05:21 PM
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16. Our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions
"Our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry."-- Thomas Jefferson
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