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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 12:42 AM Original message |
Transsexual parishioner denied (restroom) facilities |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
1. She should be able to use the same restroom as the other ladies. |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 12:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. No, thanks. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 01:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Funny, I actually have to yell at my wife and daughters to put the lid dow |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 02:18 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. LOL |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 09:35 AM Response to Reply #9 |
31. My cat likes it up |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 08:09 AM Response to Reply #3 |
21. One toilet seat to another: |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #1 |
19. Very smart. |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 08:39 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Maybe if the library restroom had been a family restroom, |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 09:27 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. I am sorry, but that nuts. |
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LifeDuringWartime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 10:22 AM Response to Reply #27 |
44. France |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 01:11 PM Response to Reply #27 |
55. What's really nuts is the thought that only women or girls are attacked |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 10:50 AM Response to Reply #55 |
79. This retired social worker so agrees .. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 01:15 PM Response to Reply #27 |
58. No, it's not, and you're way out of line. |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 09:28 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. You have that right. |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 09:27 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Our laws about the restroom don't change that. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 09:29 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. And grown women don't get attacked? |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 12:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
52. If I feel unsafe in a restroom, I don't use it. |
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WhereIsMyFreedom (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 10:02 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Which is a problem for |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 10:12 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. I see mothers with little boys in restrooms all the time. |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 12:29 PM Response to Reply #34 |
53. That's why we have day spa's, I tell you. |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
57. bingo |
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mikelgb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 09:46 AM Response to Reply #19 |
32. think about it |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 10:03 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. And I have no desire whatsoever to use the same restroom |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 10:24 AM Response to Reply #32 |
45. It's not because "women go to the bathroom in herds" that the line for |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 01:18 PM Response to Reply #32 |
59. I appreciate that. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 10:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
36. Yeah, if restrooms here had floor to ceiling stalls, as most do |
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jsw_81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
65. So if Joe shoes up one day and wants to be called Jane... |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 04:03 PM Response to Reply #65 |
77. This is a woman, not a man. |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
2. "Victory Christian Center"? What denomination's that? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 10:42 AM Response to Reply #2 |
47. It is 'interdenominational' |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
4. I think I'd seriously reconsider how much I "loved" that church |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 01:30 AM Response to Original message |
5. The Church she loves? |
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Plausible (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 01:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. But |
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DanCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 01:40 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Well for me |
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dddem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 08:20 AM Response to Reply #7 |
22. Just keep reminding yourself |
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athenap (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 09:34 AM Response to Reply #7 |
30. I'm sorry your church was so politically motivated |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 11:00 AM Response to Reply #7 |
48. What do you mean about Catholics kicking you out "for not |
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DanCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 11:37 PM Response to Reply #48 |
63. Small; town politics |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
8. What could they possibly be afraid of? |
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DanCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 01:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Red and Blue water fountains. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 10:39 AM Response to Reply #8 |
46. I think it's obvious that they know Mary Ann used to be Marvin, or |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 01:24 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. Right. |
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renaissanceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 03:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
75. Yeah, it's not like she's going to show them |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 01:51 AM Response to Original message |
11. Christianity is such a cool, tolerant religion |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 01:55 AM Response to Original message |
12. If someone told me I couldn't use the restrooms... |
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DanCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 02:02 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. You know we missed the obvious joke here. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 02:06 AM Response to Original message |
14. My partner was kicked out of the women's room at Carnegie Hall. |
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DanCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 02:10 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Read |
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geniph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
67. People can be so damn stupid on this issue |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 03:33 AM Response to Original message |
17. This poses no problem for the UUs |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 10:08 AM Response to Reply #17 |
39. It poses no problem with Unity or the UCC, either |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 06:17 AM Response to Original message |
18. I agree with the church for three reasons |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 08:56 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. If you think about it, you'll realize there's no separation issue here. |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 09:46 AM Response to Reply #18 |
33. So women from this church are afraid that men from this |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 10:05 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Well, if its all well and good, do you think |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 11:02 AM Response to Reply #37 |
49. The segregation of restrooms is for "modesty's" sake, |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 11:46 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. the laws against having sex in public are also for modesty's sake |
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geniph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #50 |
69. Cultural norms also... |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 03:33 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. like I said... |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 03:50 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. This is a woman, not a man |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 01:18 PM Response to Reply #33 |
64. I mean in general that women have a legitimate reason to fear penises |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 03:48 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. The person in question does not have a penis |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 05:33 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. I may have missed that part. No double-entendre intended. |
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geniph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
68. Emphatic agreement, Dhalgren |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 01:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
56. Penis-free zone LOL!!! |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 10:57 AM Response to Reply #18 |
80. Well, I'm a woman ... and its's not penises I want protection from. |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
20. I guess toilet courtesy is important, I hate guys who piss on the seat |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
24. Mmm...MMMM...I love me that good ol' Christian tolerance! |
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Prisoner_Number_Six (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
38. And what about The King of Kings? |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
40. She is a woman |
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renaissanceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 03:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
76. Yes it is |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
41. I'd quit the church....even though I should not have to quit church |
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Hand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
43. "Woe unto you, scribes and pharisees, hypocrites!" nt |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
51. Landover Baptist Church built a special church in the back for all |
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LiberallyInclined (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
54. There are two sides on the separation of church and state- |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
61. Where would they tell a hermaphrodite to go?... |
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beyurslf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
62. Sorry but churches can decide who goes to them and who are members. There |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 02:26 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. and this crapo from a "HOUSE OF GOD"!!! |
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geniph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. There's nothing illegal, but there's also nothing saying she can't sue |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
72. How do these people manage to use a bathroom |
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