Teacher killed by insurgents in front of students at college in Iraq

[RamboLiberal]

http://www.mytelus.com/news/article.do?pageID=world_home&articleID=2051166

Suspected insurgents disguised as policemen shot and killed an instructor in front of students at a teacher training college in Iraq on Sunday, police said.

The killing occurred about 4 p.m. when the attackers broke into Teachers Institute in Samarra city, interrupted a lecture by the teacher in his classroom, dragged him out and shot him in front of nearby students and other teachers, said police Capt. Layth Mohammed.

The victim was identified as Letif Alwan Mohammed, 40, a Shiite instructor with a master's degree in English. Mohammed was married to a nurse who works at a Samarra hospital, and they had three children, the policeman said.

The gunmen attracted little attention when they first entered the school because they were dressed as policemen. Their faces were covered by masks, as policemen sometimes do to conceal their identities and thereby prevent attacks by insurgents when they are off duty.

[mhr]

1. Sounds Like Civil War And Anarchy - Thanks George

eom

[aquart]

2. We have to leave IMMEDIATELY.

Will people die? YES. But it may settle the civil war sooner and therefore fewer will die in the end. That's the only choice we have left.

The people of Iraq will hate us for the next century at least. And they have a right to. The smartest thing we could do is turn our "leaders" such as George and Rummy over to the Hague for prosecution. That way the people of the MidEast might eventually forgive the people of the US as separate from our "leaders."

[keopeli]

3. "Suspected insurgents disguised as policemen" ???

Maybe they actually WERE policemen!

The new police force is predominantly Shiite and factions within the force (at least) are torturing Sunni Muslims.

Here is your evidence:

Dhai Adnan Saleh is both extremely lucky and extremely brave.

He is one of very few survivors of a mass killing by police commandos and he has dared to speak publicly about what happened.

He and at least nine other relatives - all Sunni Muslims - were detained earlier this month, apparently because they were suspected of being insurgents following a shoot-out in their area.

"The police started to beat us, tied our hands and blindfolded us," he said.

BBC News

[bemildred]

4. And this bit:

Their faces were covered by masks, as policemen sometimes do to conceal their identities and thereby prevent attacks by insurgents when they are off duty.

In other words these guys looked and acted like police, but the police
assured us they were not really police, but "insurgents".

[keopeli]

7. add it up and it's Civil War

and add the irony of "insurgents" meaning foreigners when actually these people are neighbors.

So we know:

the police force has at least factions of Shiites killing Sunnis and possibly vice-versa, depending on the region.

the police officials are covering it up by mislabeling the killings by portraying the culprits as "people dressed in police clothing" and refusing to accept responsibility.

the national government (i.e. Iraq's loose assembly of leaders as lead by the American occupiers) is forcing the police to label the culprits as "insurgents" or foreign fighters rather than what they really are:

Iraqis killing Iraqis because of religious and cultural differences...

Civil War.

[psychopomp]

18. Except the victim was a Shiite, not a Sunni

n/t

[superconnected]

22. the US has done this all through its history

If you want to piss off the Shite, just kill one. It will look like the sunnis did it.

Now you got your war.

These insurgents would have killed all the student teachers in the class, if they really wanted to end education.

Killing only one is super suspicious.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

24. Any proof of this outrageous anti-American claim?

Didn't think so.

- C.D Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[superconnected]

26. Actually, I was considering putting proof.

I'll cite the tonkin gulf incident and hey how about that Nick Berg video.

Your answer doesn't inspire me to bother providing links. If you think the US doesn't, dream away.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

28. For "proof" you put fanciful suppositions...

I don't think anything more need be said.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

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[superconnected]

27. by the way, I see you didn't follow the logic of the thread

I wasn't claiming the US killed the teachers, I was backing up the reasoning that the Shite would kill their own to make it look like the sunnis.

I'd hate to see your version of reality btw, it's already scaring me. Sort of like The Christian Coalations version of christianity.

so the US doesn't pull that crap, hmmmm.

[barb162]

30. They didn't need to kill the whole clas; the class is needed to tell

people about the vicious murder

[cyberpj]

19. I had questions about the first time this happened - last month or so?

After that, it was the Brit troops found to be pretending to be "insurgents".

I don't think we can fully believe anything we read about activity in Iraq anymore.

Not saying it isn't true -- just saying there are too many lies told to take anything at face value now.

[barb162]

31. This kind of stuff has been going on for many months

Months ago I read "they" killed four MDs getting into a car to get to the hospital.They killed a group of teachers, etc.

[okieinpain]

23. i wonder if that has ever occured to the highly intelligent american

reporter. hmmmm!

[keopeli]

5. Another attack in Sept. killed 5 teachers at a Sunni elementary school

The article makes it seem that killing educators is the common thread, covering up the obvious fact that these "insurgents" were also "dressed as policemen".

I've gone to the trouble to highlight the facts, leaving the BS and propoganda in normal type.

Attacks by militants on schools in Iraq have been rare amid Iraq's relentless violence.

However, suspected insurgents disguised as policemen carried out an even deadlier school attack in Iraq on Sept. 26, when they killed five teachers in the village of Muelha, 48 kilometres south of Baghdad.

The male teachers had just gotten into a minivan to head home from the Al-Jazeera elementary school, where most of the students are Sunnis, when two cars pulled up carrying nine gunmen wearing police uniforms.

The gunmen forced the teachers and their driver out of the van in front of students who were milling outside the school. The attackers then dragged the six men into an empty classroom, lined them against a wall, and shot them to death. The gunmen escaped.

[enigma000]

6. The teachers were quislings, yes? n/t

[0007]

8. Are they sure it wasn't a Brit disquised as a policeman?

[progressivebydesign]

9. how sad. That was my first thought, too. n/t

[AtTheEndOfTheDay]

12. Me too.

[radwriter0555]

13. Or an israeli, as those "brits" were later purported to be...

since they've never been identified and the whole episode lost in down the memory hole.

[oblivious]

14. Brits or one of the many Negroponte death squads. The Salvador Option.

[radwriter0555]

20. like father, like son... not that our regime would *ever* sponsor terror

and/ or war for profit?

oops, did I say "regime"?

[Mnemosyne]

10. * does good work, doesn't he?

:sarcasm: :kick:

[radwriter0555]

11. Then.... how do they know they were disguised? How do people know they

weren't just real policemen acting like Mao Tse Tung's & Hitler's thugs?

After all, an uneducated populace isn't as dangerous as an educated populace.

[oblivious]

17. You're right. There is no proof these were not policemen.

The opener could reasonably be:

"Policemen shot and killed an instructor in front of students at a teacher training college in Iraq on Sunday."

But since the quotation is from the police, they can hardly admit that they or rogue elements of their force did this atrocity.

[henslee]

15. I raelly hate when gunmen dress as cops, its so confusing.

[Mr_Spock]

16. I really hate hearing about all the senseless killing going on in Iraq

Why oh, why did the Chimpster have to get us into this no-win situation? What good can come of this now - we've already done more harm than good x(

[yurbud]

21. could be false flag too.

[daleo]

25. Did they say "cheerio old chap", when they shot him?

We now know that we can't rule out that possibility.