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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 12:55 PM
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Nazi march canceled when police disperse rock-throwing protesters
http://www.cleveland.com/newsflash/cleveland/index.ssf?/base/news-20/1129396141196691.xml&storylist=cleveland

10/15/2005, 1:02 p.m. ET
The Associated Press

TOLEDO, Ohio (AP) — Police used tear gas to break up a rock-throwing crowd that had gathered to protest a planned march Saturday by the National Socialist Movement.

At least two dozen members of a Roanoke, Va.-based group that calls itself "America's Nazi Party" had gathered at a city park just before noon and were to march under police protection.

Violence erupted about one-quarter of a mile away along the planned route. Baseball-sized rocks lay in the street as the gas dissipated.

Authorities announced through a loudspeaker on a police helicopter that they were canceling the march and telling people to leave the area...

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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 01:00 PM
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1. I Wonder Where This "National Socialist Movement" Get's It's Funding?
I have a hunch. Who wants to start a race war in this country, and who benefits?
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moulindelatour Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:03 AM
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31. "I Wonder Where This "National Socialist Movement" Get's It's Funding?"
must be the french
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 01:26 PM
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2. FAUX News - Rioting breaking out
at Toledo Ohio Neo Nazi Rally.

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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 02:15 PM
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5. This is very weird. No police are on the scene but live video is on Faux.
A large group of young black men are breaking into and looting a building - maybe an aprtment building. Faux is reporting that only 2 blocks away, police on horseback and in cars, are just standing around.

What the hell is going on?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 02:18 PM
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7. Is Faux setting up a race war or reporting it?
They say 100s of officers are there but are "sitting back and not doing anything."

Quote from a black leader in Toledo: :They let these people (nazis) come here and what did they expect?"

:( What is happening?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 02:25 PM
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10. Looked like they were staging 100's of police
in and around the park.

Supposedly they escorted the Neo-Nazies out of the area when the trouble started.

Seems there was a protest against the Neo-Nazis and some anti-Nazi Skinheads showed up and then the people started coming out from around the neighborhood and everything got out of control.

Yes it does seem that FAUX is trying to start a riot, rather then just reporting what is going on.

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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 02:51 PM
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12. yeppers -- it would feel like a threat to have nazis marching thru my
neighborhood. the police doing nothing -- jeez.
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 01:32 PM
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3. I know it's hard to do
But why don't people just ignore the Nazi douchebags? They thrive on publicity. If no one showed up, there would be no pub.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 01:35 PM
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4. Planned Nazi march cancels food giveaway
<snip> The Rev. Waverly Earley, pastor of Wesley United Methodist Church, 2934 Stickney Ave., said she called off her church’s Feed Your Neighbor program. She cited concern over the “potential volatility” of a rally by the National Socialists Movement, a Virginia-based neo-Nazi group that said it would stage a march in North Toledo today.

“A lot of the people who come to our site are large families, with five or six children. We don’t want to take any chances on those people being negatively affected” should marchers pass near the church, Pastor Earley said.

She said the program, which operates the last three Saturdays of the month, will resume next week with extended hours, from 9 a.m. to noon.

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051015/NEWS16/51015008/-1/NEWS
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 02:18 PM
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6. Nazis. I hate Ohio Nazis.
The rocks are just people's way of reminding those Nazis what 'Never Again' means.

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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 02:20 PM
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8. Apparently, these Nazis are from VA, according to Faux News. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 02:21 PM
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 03:50 PM
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15. Does their leader look like Artie Johnson? ... eom
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 06:28 PM
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29. A line from the Blues Brothers?
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 06:28 PM by are_we_united_yet
No? Only Illinois was used?
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 02:48 PM
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11. The Nazis accomplished their task.....


... the rock throwing (as reported) and the looting (as I saw it on FNS) only validates them and every closet nazi.


damn.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 03:24 PM
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13. The police escorted the Nazis out of the area
when the trouble started. It is mostly local blacks who are causing the trouble at the moment.

Why do I smell a Rove distraction in the air?

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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 03:46 PM
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14. Practice for another 2002-like DC sniper to keep hate and fear alive.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:45 PM
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16. kick
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:49 PM
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17. I thought America's Nazi Party was the Bush Crime Family
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arrianna Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:54 PM
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25.  have you ever
seen Bohemian Grove? by Alex Jones. He is abit out there, a really excited kind of guy, but it really does make even a skeptic sit back and go Hmmmmmmmmm...................
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arrianna Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:52 PM
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18. How embarassing
to have those racist pigs come from virginia. I am from Virginia. I come from HamptonRoads and the racial tensions there are quite noticable. I can imagine the black population there is having a cow over this and rightly so.

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arrianna Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:53 PM
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19. Race riots in Toledo, Ohio.
I have not searched yet through the alternative news but here is the general story. I watched the Fox news coverage :puke: They shame me. I hear the head of the Nazi or WS party is from my home state Virginia. Ok, here it is. I know peoples on here will put up some more links if they are interested.



TOLEDO, Ohio (CNN) -- A neo-Nazi group's scheduled march against "black crime" in Toledo, Ohio, sparked rioting Saturday afternoon.

Police and SWAT teams moved in, and several people were arrested.

Toledo Mayor Jack Ford blamed gang members for the violence. Watch Mayor Ford answer questions about the violence.

The march was called off, and none of the National Socialist Movement group's 80 members who showed up to participate was arrested, according to Bill White, a spokesman for the group..............................................


Then i took a quick trip over to the stormfront.org because i knew they would be on this white on rice....I was directed to the HalTurner Radio show, who i didn't even know existed, and the crap he is saying on the live radio makes my stomach churn. I am speechless.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:53 PM
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20. Those Nazis are a Super Minority
If they know what's good for them, they better crawl back into their holes.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:53 PM
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:53 PM
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21. After a racist called in...
and began yelling slurs on Tampa radio host Bob Lassiter's show (a few years back), Bob hung up and said, "And these people actually think they're superior to anybody?"

It really gets you that dumb, violent, angry schmucks think they're the cream of any group.

Also, since we all come from one planet, there can't be any "purity" of any group when you go far back enough in history.

This is all insane. I don't know why people don't want to get along.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:53 PM
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22. Cnn link
Planned neo-Nazi march sparks violence

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/15/nazi.march/index.html

TOLEDO, Ohio (CNN) -- A neo-Nazi group's scheduled march against "black crime" in Toledo, Ohio, sparked rioting Saturday afternoon.

Police and SWAT teams moved in, and several people were arrested.

Toledo Mayor Jack Ford blamed gang members for the violence. (Watch Mayor Ford answer questions about the violence)

The march was called off, and none of the National Socialist Movement group's 80 members who showed up to participate was arrested, according to Bill White, a spokesman for the group.

Hours later, aerial video showed people vandalizing buildings and setting fire to a two-story building that apparently housed a bar, Toledo police spokeswoman Capt. Diana Ruiz-Krause told CNN.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:53 PM
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23. more at this CNN link
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/15/nazi.march/

It turns out Socialists and anti-racist groups initiated the violence and encouraged local black men to join in.


Ford said the police were prepared for the march and had appealed to the community to ignore the Nazis, saying the situation turned into "exactly what they wanted."

White's group promotes itself as America's Nazi Party and said that it was protesting black gangs, which it claimed were harassing white residents.

The group said it had received support from Toledo's white citizens and community activists.

White blamed the riot on Toledo police, saying they intentionally changed the group's march route to make it collide with a counter-demonstration.

About 20 members from both the International Socialists Organization and One People's Project showed up, and some handed eggs to African-American residents to throw at the Nazi marchers, White said.

Ruiz-Krause blamed the mayhem on a disorganized group of the community's youth.

Most of the violence happened when residents, who had pelted the Nazi marchers with bottles and rocks, took out their anger on police, said Brian Jagodzinski, chief news photographer for CNN affiliate WTVG.


I find it interesting that these motherfuckers came all the way from Virginia. George Lincoln Rockwell's American Nazi Party is just an hour or two away in southeastern Michigan town of Westland.
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arrianna Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 06:05 PM
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27.  What did they
expect was going to happen? The coloured community was going to set up lemonade stands to provide refreshments for the rally? They knew it was going to happen. I would be out there too with the protesters. Unfortunately, yes this is what they had hoped for, to get a rise out of these people and have them being seen as violent animals on national television. It is a sad situation. The ecomomic and employment in this country are declining by the day, and along with the oppression that is felt in many minority communities and the fact that Katrina bared to the whole world the state of the coloured communities, frusturation and anger are mounting so the response to this blatant act of racism is natural i think. If not then that would lower then chances of these people to be heard. Sure they can file complaints and crap but we all know it would not go anywhere, not in the state our governments, on all levels, are. Unfortunately, in an act of fighting racism and oppression, they look like the bad guys. It is just a sad situation to me.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 06:17 PM
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28. Black families looting, White families looking for food
it's the same shit. The Nazis wanted to look like peaceful marchers getting attacked by "those people". Because it helps to portray that "those people" are violent and angry.

I think it would be better if nobody showed up to their stupid march and no attention was drawn to it.
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:56 PM
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26. "Scott, does the president support the Nazis who marched on Saturday?"
Come on David, Terry or Helen...someone ask the question Monday afternoon...
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moulindelatour Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:00 AM
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30. "Nazi march canceled when police disperse rock-throwing protesters"
must be the french
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