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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 09:15 AM
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Leaks about CIA prisons overseas spark fury


"On Nov. 3, the Washington Post" leaked the story. (8 sites--"some of them in now- democratic East European countries".




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Leaks about CIA prisons overseas spark fury

By Peter Grier and Gail Russell Chaddock, Staff writers of The Christian Science Monitor Thu Nov 10, 3:00 AM ET

WASHINGTON - Allegations of a veiled network of CIA prisons overseas have added another chapter to the story of US detention policies in the post-9/11 age - and resulted in furious reactions from Eastern Europe to Washington's Capitol Hill.


Romania and other ex-Soviet bloc nations have hurriedly denied they know anything about such secret jails, while in the US the CIA and top congressional Republicans want to find out who leaked the story in the first place.

If nothing else, this flurry of activity serves to keep the words "detention" and "America" linked in news reports around the world. In the US, the government faces the prospect of an internal investigation only weeks after vice presidential staffer I. Lewis Libby was indicted in another leak case. "When you get into investigations around here, where does it end?" asked Sen. Trent Lott (news, bio, voting record) (R) of Mississippi on Tuesday.

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The news story did not name the countries in question. The nongovernment organization Human Rights Watch, however, issued a statement last week saying that it had information that CIA airplanes traveling from Afghanistan in 2003 and 2004 made direct flights to remote airfields in Romania and Poland.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 09:22 AM
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1. Exposing a U.S. foreign policy of torture is treated as an illegal leak.
Yet, exposing a CIA WMD operation is treated as no big deal.

The Republican leadership are monsters --- criminally insane barbarians running the asylum called the U.S.A.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 10:26 AM
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5. I'll take your "illegal leak" and raise you an "illegal activity" via
the Geneva Conventions. Oops! I forgot that this document is "quaint" and every abuse short of Organ Failure does NOT qualify as Torture to our beloved Rulers. :puke:
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 09:45 AM
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2. "democratic" my ass...how crime and punishment are dealt with
Edited on Thu Nov-10-05 09:46 AM by nothingshocksmeanymo
including the right to a fair trial are the hallmarks of so called democratic countries.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 10:14 AM
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3. Romania and Poland would be my guesses
Romania was promised much in exchange for their participation in the so-called "coalition". Poland was too.

If in fact Poland is one of the countries, it will deeply bother the Polish people who are devout Catholics and suffered decades of repression.
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 10:24 AM
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4. Trent Lott Sez....
"When you get into investigations around here, where does it end?" asked Sen. Trent Lott

Gee, reminds me of the '90s, except this time there's actually something to investigate. W-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 10:29 AM
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6. see Lott and the other republicans like investigations into important
things like whitewater and the travel office and of course the blue dress, they don't want to bother with pesky issues of nationial security.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 01:45 PM
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7. No, the leaks didn't spark fury overseas -- the reality did.
Since the CIA asked to have the leaks investigated, it confirmed their accuracy.

And it was likely a Republican senator who did the leaking. ;-)
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 01:48 PM
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8. Secret Eastern European Gulag torture...
Is this why we got rid of the Soviet Union?
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 01:55 PM
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9. Back up a ,minute here-
Maybe I am getting my facts mixed up so correct me if I am wrong.
Wasn't this information discussed publicly at the regular monthly luncheon the Republicans have? Wasn't Cheney the one discussing it?
It is my understanding that all Republican Senators are invited to attend. Now the next question-do all Republican Senators have high level security clearance? If not, then why would Cheney disclose this "top secret national security issue" with them?

Also--where were the lunch workers at the time. Do they have security clearance?

Just wondering.

:shrug:
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