Musician Who Tangled With Bush to Run

[Judi Lynn]

Musician Who Tangled With Bush to Run
Tuesday, November 29, 2005
(11-29) 14:48 PST WASHINGTON, (AP) --

A year after tangling with the Bush campaign over the use of a pop tune he penned in the 1970's, Democrat John Hall now wants to take on Rep. Sue Kelly.

Hall, a former county legislator who lives in Dover Plains, announced Tuesday he is running for Congress.

A co-founder of the band Orleans, Hall criticized the Bush re-election effort last year for using "Still the One," a song he co-wrote, at campaign rallies.

The campaign insisted it had legal right to use the song, but stopped playing it after Hall complained.
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/11/29/politics/p144600S77.DTL

[chelsea0011]

1. " Legal right to use the song"? And I'm taping King Kong at the theater

and selling copies on the street. Welcome to Bush World.

[mrbassman03]

3. Great! A new defense against the RIAA!

I have the legal right to download all the music I want! Way to lead by example.

[Angry Girl]

7. Haven't you heard?

Cheney's office, Rumsfeld aides and others argued "that the president of the United States is all-powerful, that as commander in chief the president of the United States can do anything he damn well pleases," Wilkerson said.
http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/breaking_news/13277547.htm

[Patchuli]

17. Yah, that's what King Louis and Queen Marie Antoinette

thought too...! They can run but they can't hide from the citizens' wrath.

[Angry Girl]

20. Bring back the oubliette!

[alfredo]

19. I guess he should drop the title president.

Maybe King George is the most appropriate name for him.



You a Lexington resident? If you are, or live nearby, come to the CFK meeting Dec 7 7PM at the main library downtown. We are gearing up for 2006 and need an Angry Girl or two.

[Angry Girl]

21. Arizona.... oh, well, some other time maybe!

[alfredo]

27. I guess the link (Lexington Herald-Leader) made me think you were

from this part of the world.

In Arizona you probably have your own battles to fight.


CFK is the Kentucky chapter of the DFA.

BTW, if you have environmental battles to fight, look for help from Green Corps.

http://www.greencorps.org/

They really helped us in our fight for local control of our water.

[Angry Girl]

32. Wow, what an Interesting org! Tactics! Wot a concept!

I've bookmarked it and will read more later but it loks really interesting! I am revamping my website in the next few ______s and plan on having a sizeable green section, so this will make a great addition.

And, btw, we will be building our first solar water still this coming January! (been looking for an excuse to do so for a while and the Chinese/Russian chemical plant disaster kinda clinched the deal!)

[alfredo]

38. I am really missing the Green Corp interns. We became good

friends. One of them was into street activism, so we got along real well. It was fun having someone helping when diving into a crowd to leaflet.

You need to read two books.

"Water Wars" by Vandana Shiva
"Blue Gold" by Maude Barlow. ( and some other writer I can't recall right now)

It will give you even more reason to become water independent.


Is that your site featured in your sig line?

My site is on the verge of a make over too.

[Angry Girl]

39. Crowds can be scary...

I haven't read them but I'm suspecting it's not good news. I like these two sites on the water problem:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/features/water/business.html
which leads to
http://www.icij.org/water/

And, yeah, that's our site. My particular little page is
http://nightweed.com/angrygirl.html
and I just put a link to you guys top right-hand corner! At least that's it's spot for now! Chances are it'll get moved down the column, which is just a lousy system, hence the urgent need to reorganize....!

Hey, a Mac person! We're getting a Mac in January! :-)

[alfredo]

40. Good article. They failed to mention Bechtel, the fourth

multinational in the water business. They are such butt-holes, they got kicked out of Bolivia because of their bad manners and business practices.

RWE is now getting out of the water business, so their water works (Thames) is up for sale.

The Center for Public Integrity is bookmarked.

Just bookmarked your site. Excellent.

Thanks. I will write my Green Corp Friends to let them know about the link.

My site is the link to the left in my signature line. It is posters for wheat pasting. I kept them black and white mostly. I did that because I like it that way. Black ink is cheap, and I am cheap. Black and white is simple, and I ..... you get the picture.

[Angry Girl]

41. wheatpasting?

I thought this was just a quirky, original name but now I suspect it has a meaning for people outside your head as well.... What is wheatpasting?

[alfredo]

42. Flour and water makes a good, strong paste for

attaching fliers and posters to objects. If you want a poster to stay affixed, wheat paste is the way to go.


http://visualresistance.org/wordpress/?page_id=166

One of my favorite street artist is Banksy

http://www.banksy.co.uk/

I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy

[Angry Girl]

43. I love Banksy!

Saw some of his work in a recent issue of Wired. Great stuff!

Thanks for the links! And here's another one that you probably already know about but might come in handy:

Handbook for bloggers and cyber-dissidents
http://www.rsf.org/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=542

[alfredo]

44. thank you for that link.

I am living in two worlds. One world is main line electoral politics, the other walks the line between grassroots politics and anarchy.

I am thinking about hitting the streets tonight to do a bit of pasting. (either that or stay home, sip bourbon and listen to music)

The paste dries real fast in cold, dry weather.

[0007]

37. I've heard that too Angry Girl, so I had my spies do a break in

on junior's office. And these documents reveal that junior and Cheney have much to hide.

[brentspeak]

2. The article doesn't bother to mention it, but the seat is in NY state

The district that emcompasses Putnam, Westchester, Orange, and Rockland counties.

[Caoimhe]

4. Didn't Rushpig get bitchslapped for using his theme song?

that was by the Pretenders?

[Canuckistanian]

8. Rush apparently has the legal right to play it

Chrissie Hynde may not like it, but she doesn't have full control of the song.

[No Exit]

28. The Addict himself explained:

Way back when that embarrassing incident had occurred (Hynde objecting to his using that song), The Addict at first avoided the topic on his daily polemic. But then the song was no longer being played at every break, as it previously had been. Listeners apparently noticed. So The Addict saw fit to comment on his little intellectual property problem. He explained that the song could be used--but it could not legally be adopted by him as his theme song, as he had clearly been doing.

From that time on, the song was heard less and less on his show. The Addict was essentially able to turn tail and run, while still appearing to have "won" the legal wrangling--when, in fact, he had lost. (Sort of like The Drunk is currently doing regarding Iraq.)

If you can stand to be highly annoyed for a while, check out The Addict's show. You won't find that song being played continually, as it was in the past.

[Dr Fate]

23. I heard she donates her royalties to PETA. n/t

n/t

[JudyM]

30. Which song is that? I never listen to him. nt

[KamaAina]

31. Ohio (an instrumental version)

obviously the OxyMoron didn't listen to those lyrics, either!

"Goin' back to Ohio/But my city was gone..."

[JudyM]

36. Oh, great song! nt

[newscott]

5. I thought as long as you pay the royalty there's really nothing the artist

can do.

[madrchsod]

10. if the artist controls their

song then they usually have the right to veto the use..crissy hines makes limpballs pay a fav chartiy of her`s for his right to use her song

[Patchuli]

18. She should have fought the use to that pig nt

[No Exit]

29. Addict Rush did not achieve a victory in that fight.

I was formerly one of his listeners. (Not much to say in my defense, except that I did often question his bullshit spew, and I definitely knew that he was NOT representative of his listeners, being as he is only interested in greedily filling his coffers.)

The Addict himself explained to his listeners:

Way back when that embarrassing incident had occurred (Hynde objecting to his using that song), The Addict at first avoided the topic on his daily polemic. But then the song was no longer being played at every break, as it previously had been. Listeners apparently noticed. So The Addict saw fit to comment on his little intellectual property problem. He explained that the song could be used--but it could not legally be adopted by him as his theme song, as he had clearly been doing.

From that time on, the song was heard less and less on his show. The Addict was essentially able to turn tail and run, while still appearing to have "won" the legal wrangling--when, in fact, he had lost. (Sort of like The Drunk is currently doing regarding Iraq.)

If you can stand to be highly annoyed for a while, check out The Addict's show. You won't find that song being played continually, as it was in the past.

[corporatemedia]

6. Daddy Bush (Sr.) used "Don't Worry, Be Happy" in his campaign...

until Bobby McFerrin made him stop.

[Clarkansas]

12. "Don't Worry" because I am going to be ousted by Clinton soon?

[MagickMuffin]

22. Back in 2000's campaign

Poppy was at an event, I believe it was in Washington. The theme song they chose was
"Oh No Let's Go Crazy" by Prince.

Dearly beloved,
We are gathered here today
To get through this thing called LIFE
Electric word life
It means forever and that's a mighty long time
But I'm here to tell ya
There's something else...the afterworld
A world of never ending happiness
You can always see the sun
Day or night
So when you call up that shrink in Beverly Hills -
You know the one
Dr. Everything 'll be alright
'Stead of asking Him how much of you're time is left
Ask him how much of you're mind, baby
'Cause in this life things are much harder than in the afterworld
In this life...you're on your own!
And if the elevator tries to bring you down,
go crazy...punch a higher floor!

If you don't like the world you're living in
Take a look around ya
At least ya got friends
I called my old lady
For a friendly word
She just picked up the phone
Dropped it on the floor
"Ssss ahh, sss ahh!" is all I heard
I'm not gonna let the elevator bring us down
Oh no, let's go...let's go crazy
Let's get nuts
Let's look for the purple banana 'til they put us in the truck...Let's go!

All excited, don't know why
Maybe it's cause we're all gonna die
And when we do, what's it all for?
Better live now before the Grim Reaper comes knocking on your door
Tell me baby...
Are we gonna let the elevator bring us down?
Oh no, let's go...let's go crazy, babe!
Let's get nuts
Let's look for the purple banana 'til they put us in the truck
Let's go!
C'mon baby, let's get nuts...yeah!

Let's go crazy

Are we gonna let the elevator bring us down?
Oh no! Let's go...crazy!
I said let's go crazy!
Let's go! Let's go!

Dr. Everything 'll be alright
Make everything go wrong
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill
Hang tough children
He's coming...He's coming...He's coming!

During this same period of time Baby Bush was campaigning using "We Won't Get Fooled Again" by The Who.

We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgement of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

The change, it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they are flown in the next war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no!

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
Though I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?

There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Are now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

They were warning us way back then, I guess no one was listening(?)

[corporatemedia]

26. I always figured that bush's famous "old saying in Texas"...

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

...was President Brain-dead mixing up the saying with that song!

[Ian David]

9. John Hall is still alive? Cool. n/t

[Catch22Dem]

11. Reagan used "Born in the USA"

Apparently he, and everyone on his campaign staff, neglected to see the anti-war (anti-everything-repuke) message in the songs' lyrics. All they heard was "Borrrrrnnnn in the UUUUSSSSAAAAAA" and started waving their fucking flags. HAHAHA.

[Agnomen]

14. Reagan's latching on to "Born In The USA"

was funny. Obviously nobody in his campaign bothered to listen to the lyrics, just heard the title and went for it.
Springsteen immediately told them to stop using it, quoting it, or listening to it.
It was the closest he came to making a political statement until Kerry's campaign.

[yardwork]

34. I remember when George Will praised it

lol - Will didn't listen to the lyrics either - he praised "Born in the USA" in one of his columns as an exuberant testimony to American patriotism or something like that - written in Will's usual pompous style - so funny.

[hippiechick]

15. They also tried to use 'Little Pink Houses', IIRC ...

... but Mellencamp pitched a fit. :lol:

[Ken Burch]

24. That was when(I read this in the Village Voice in the '80s)

right-wing creeps were showing up at Springteen concerts selling buttons that said "Springsteen:The Rambo of Rock".

The Boss, shall we say, was not pleased.

[tomg]

13. John Hall was a very solid

county legislator when he was in the Ulster County legislator. Great guy, and solid democrat activist. I hope he obliterates Kelly, but that region is far more conservative than the area he represented when he lived on our side of the river.

[Ken Burch]

25. He also wrote "Power" which was one of the best anti-nuclear energy songs

of the '80s.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

16. Thrilled to hear it!

Go John! :toast:

[Raine]

33. Dole used "I'm a Soul Man"

substituting "Dole" in place of soul until he was stopped. Repukes don't seem to get it that you can't just take someone's song and steal it just cause you're used to stealing everything else. :mad:

[yardwork]

35. Another hilarious juxtaposition - the last thing Dole has is soul

[GoddessOfGuinness]

46. He should've used Pineapple Rag

but Scott Joplin would roll in his grave.

[Strawman]

45. Just don't use this photo on campaign posters

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

47. Sue Kelly is my bushbot Congresswoman and this is GREAT News!

I just read about it in the local paper and I couldn't be happier! Now I have to find a way I can go and work for his victory!