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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 05:41 PM
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UPDATE: Venezuela insists US Embassy behind spy plot (Reuters)

Venezuela insists US Embassy behind spy plot


Fri Jan 27, 2006 02:25 PM ET

CARACAS, Venezuela (Reuters) - Venezuela said on Friday authorities had concrete evidence that U.S. Embassy staff were involved with a group of Venezuelan military officers accused of passing state secrets to the Pentagon. The charges of U.S. espionage are the latest test to relations between the United States and President Hugo Chavez, a fierce critic of Washington who says he is bringing socialist revolution to the world's No. 5 oil exporter.

"The Venezuelan state has confidential information, thoroughly confirmed, that officials from the U.S. military mission are involved in this," Vice President Jose Vicente Rangel told reporters. U.S. Embassy representatives have said the Venezuelan government has not contacted them on the matter.

The vice president said earlier this week that several low-ranking officers had been discovered handing over state secrets to the U.S. Defense Department. On Thursday a top army commander said the U.S. Embassy was linked to the case.

Officials have not said how many officers were involved or confirmed that anyone has been detained. Military authorities have said an investigation was underway, but a Navy spokesman said he could not comment on the probe....


(more at link below)

<http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=11005237&src=rss/politicsNews>
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 05:52 PM
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1. Kick the bastards out! Take it to the UN. Expose the evidence. n/t
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 06:03 PM
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2. Venezuelan Military Officers Detained
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 06:09 PM
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3. Hardened criminals all....
"But Alonso Medina, an attorney for one man detained in the investigation, said his client, Jacinto Nouel, was a dentist held on charges of spying and threatening the security of the military.

The lawyer said the prosecutors accused his Nouel of ties to the U.S. Embassy after he received documents from his son-in-law -- a retired Venezuela naval officer -- living in Miami. Medina said the documents were a CD-ROM with public information about Spanish aircraft."
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 06:30 PM
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6. What a surprise. Usually they take so many felons into the military,
don't they? Especially honed today!

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 06:16 PM
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4. Really, you can be sure they are up to no good!
It is so disgusting to me that our government opposes--and schemes against--the democratically elected government of Venezuela, a government that has been elected a number of times with big majorities in highly monitored elections--while the Bush junta has done nothing but spit on democracy here in the United States, where we have non-transparent elections run by major Bush donors with "trade secret," proprietary programming code, pervasive spying on Americans, major corruption, and a White House that breaks the law, tortures prisoners and commits treason with impunity.
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phoebe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 06:25 PM
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5. wonder if the "Venezuela Awareness Foundation" is affiliated with this
story. They are headquartered in Miami, full of Venezuelan ex-pats who are rabidly anti-Chavez and Castro.

http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=43496

As I have posted in other forums, the International Republican Institute, chaired by John McCain and the National Endowment for Democracy are going after these leftist regimes in the Southern Hemisphere and will do it under the usual guise of "spreading democracy".

We should expect much more of this to come in the next few months.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 06:33 PM
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7. Thanks for the pointer. I had forgotten about the I.R.I. altogether.
Did NOT even know John McCain was trying to butt into Latin America. Figures, doesn't it? Republicans are obsessed with controlling the brown people of Latin America, and having them governed by the European descended "elite," as has been the custom since Spain plundered, raped, murdered its way into ruling Latin America hundreds of years ago.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 07:25 PM
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11. Did you see FRONTLINE/World this week Judy Lynn?
The online video is not available yet (because the program is still being shown on PBS is some cities) but if you missed it, it sounds like a program you might like.

Here are the links:

<http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/brazil501/>

<http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/watch/>

It's about how the Cinta Larga tribe, who were living in isolation in the Brazilian Rain Forest until the 1960s, are now trying to take back control of a newly discovered Diamond Mine that was recently found on their land. It's part two of this week's show.

If you go to the Frontline/World website, you might find that it's going to be replayed this weekend, it all depends on you local channel.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 07:45 PM
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13. Thanks for the alert to this new material. The best thing that can happen
is that the rest of the world becomes aware of these native people's existance on the same land containing the diamonds Brazil claims as its own!

It won't be as easy to snuff them (indigenous people unlucky enough to live on land Europeans want), which has been going on for hundreds of years in this hemisphere.

I learned only last week that American native people got slaughtered by gold miners, something which seems to have been indadvertantly left out of American school books!

Their chances are better with a non-right-winger as their President. Sure hope he will hold back the people who would be happy to shoot them in their tracks, just as the Amazon rancher hired assassins to do to the environmental worker, Sister Dorothy Stang last year.



Thanks for the heads up, Up2Late!
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phoebe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 07:35 PM
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12. declassified documents regarding N.E.D. involvement in Chavez coup
for perusal at this website..of course, many other groups were/are being funded too, all under the guise of "reform". It is sickening isn't it?? Wonder if they are being paid to "reform" certain sectors of the US popluation about certain ideals..


http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=1190

snip

The documents discovered through Bigwood’s FOIA requests on Venezuela reveal a consistent pattern of funding from various U.S. agencies and entities, such as the Department of State and the National Endowment for Democracy, to several known anti-Chávez groups in Venezuela. One of these groups, Sumate, received USD$53,400 for “Electoral Education” during the period September 2003 – September 2004. The funds awarded to Sumate were, according to the NED grant, to “train citizens throughout Venezuela in the electoral process and to promote participation in a recall referendum.” Sumate is the organization that led an unapproved referendum drive back in February 2003, attempting to remove President Chavez before half of his term, which is not permitted by Venezuelan law. Sumate claimed to have collected “27 million signatures in one day”, yet it was later discovered that a majority of these signatures were gathered through fraudulent means, including photocopied from bank records and credit card receipts.

Other groups funded by the NED and the State Department that are included on Venezuelafoia.info include groups linked to Primero Justicia, an outspoken anti-Chávez right-wing party that has promoted undemocratic measures to oust the Venezuelan leader. Although they have acknowledged that it was wrong for them to have participated in the April 2002 coup and the lock-out of December 2002, Primero Justicia is presently refusing to accept a decision by Venezuela’s National Elections Council on the possibility of a constitutional recall referendum against President Chavez, if it is not in their favor.

A Continuous and Intimate Relationship Between the US and the Opposition

Venezuelafoia.info includes pages and pages of internal memoranda and email communications between the NED and the State Department and the NED and the various Venezuelan opposition groups. These communications evidence a continuous intimate relationship between the parties that demonstrates a profound support coming out of the U.S. government for these groups. Numerous email communications between Chris Sabatini, Senior Program Director of NED’s Latin America and Caribbean Department, and the various NED benefactors in Venezuela express his concern for the political developments in Venezuela and his reinforcement of support for the grant recipients.

One memorandum between the State Department and the NED reveals a supplemental $1,000,000 awarded in April 2002, right after the failed coup d’etat against President Chávez, that was slighted for NED’s Venezuelan benefactors. The primary grant recipients include the International Republican Institute, the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs, the American Center for International Labor Solidarity and the Center for International Private Enterprise. Smaller grant recipients include Acción Campesina, Asociación Civil Asamblea de Educación, Fundación Momento de la Gente, Instituto Prensa y Sociedad, Asociación Civil Liderazgo y Visión and Asociación Civil Consorcio Justicia, amongst others.


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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 06:40 PM
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8. I am shocked
That a country would use diplomatic cover to gather intelligence, shocked.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 07:14 PM
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9. I've read that there's an old saying in Latin America:
Q: Why has there never been a military coup in the United States?
A: Because there's no US Embassy there.

NOTE: After 2000, I'm not so sure I'd say there's never been a coup here...but I digress.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 07:21 PM
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10. Great point. Gonna remember that one. Charles Shapiro, last ambassador
who was there during the coup, and threw his spindly arms around the bogus "President of Venezuela," really distinguished himself while serving Bush:
US Ambassador to Venezuela Makes Ass of Self
author: Arrecha
United States Ambassador to Venezuela, Charles Shapiro, hosted a party in which used "freedom of expression" as an excuse to ridicule President Chavez and to express a desire for "better relations" between Venezuela and the government of George W. Bush.



Last Tuesday, the United States Ambassador Charles Shapiro hosted a party at his residence. The occasion of the gathering was to commemorate "World Freedom of Expression Day." Venezuelan corporate media chiefs, journalism associations and unions, ambassadors, the director of the Unesco, and other personalities were also invited.

As part of the entertainment, Charles Shapiro invited a comedian to divert his guests. The show began with the humorist dressed up as a Marta Colomina (a well-known anti-Chavez journalist) holding a puppet of Chavez—criticizing his government and ridiculing the president.

I found it very cynical that the next day, Shapiro apologized for the show, when witness said that he was applauding vigorously after the show. Shapiro, a puppet himself, said that the embassy did not know in advance the kind of show that they were getting. Meanwhile, the comedian expressed in one of the newspapers, that he actually met with embassy members in advance to discuss his performance at Mr. Shapiro's party.
(snip/...)
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/05/264864.shtml

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502ramjet Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 08:38 PM
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14. no-brainer
Given that Bush spies on Americans, there is no doubt he is spying there too.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 08:53 PM
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15. well, the us has been implicated more than once already
in this sort of crap.
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