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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:01 PM
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Call for censure is `needless partisanship,' Bush says

http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/politics/14154075.htm

Call for censure is `needless partisanship,' Bush says
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

WASHINGTON - In his first public comments on the subject, President Bush on Tuesday described Sen. Russ Feingold's censure resolution as "needless partisanship" and challenged congressional Democrats to run on the issue in 2006 elections.

"I did notice that nobody from the Democratic Party has actually stood up and called for getting rid of the terrorist surveillance program," Bush said at a news conference Tuesday.

"You know, if that's what they believe, if people in the party believe that, then they ought to stand up and say it," Bush said. "They ought to stand up and say, `The tools we're using to protect the American people shouldn't be used.' They ought to take their message to the people and say, `Vote for me. I promise we're not going to have a terrorist surveillance program.'"

Feingold, D-Wis., who introduced the censure resolution last week, fired back in an interview, saying Bush's comments are "just plain dishonest."
"The president knows every Democrat supports wiretapping terrorists," said Feingold, who contends the wiretapping can and should be done with court approval. "So when the president says (we're) opposing wiretapping terrorists, he is being intentionally dishonest. It makes me feel even more strongly that he should be censured."

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:03 PM
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1. liar, liar, delusional liar. edited to add more
Edited on Tue Mar-21-06 09:12 PM by uppityperson
"can't we all just get along" he whined. "After all, september the 11th changed everything. We thought we were safe by the ocean but them evil doers figured out a way ta, ta, ta, ta, ta ta hurt us anyway. Why can't we all just get along?"
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 07:11 AM
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26. Yeah everything changed but not on septtheeleventh. It changed on
12/12/00. And the little punk knows that full well. :grr: EVERYTHING that has happened since has only helped his evil agenda. He only wants to "get along" when things aren't going his way, otherwise, he doesn't know the meaning of the word "bipartisanship"
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:06 PM
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2. "...feel even more strongly that he should be censured..."
Gigadittoes
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 08:27 AM
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30. Teradittoes
:thumbsup:
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WyLoochka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:07 PM
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3. Good one, Russ
Point out his intentional dishonesty and add that to the reasons to censure him!
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:09 PM
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4. Resistance to censure is needless partisanship, Jack Rabbit says
Jack Rabbit says that Republican resistance to censuring Mr. Bush for warrantless wiretapping of American citizens is needless partisanshp.

When it was pointed out to Mr. Rabbit that many Senate Democrats also are resisting the call to censure Mr. Bush, he said, "You're right; there's nothing partisan about that. It's just cowardly."
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:12 PM
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5. Anyone got any of those ear protectors, what were they called? (n/t)
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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 11:14 PM
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23. Bullshit protectors!!
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:13 PM
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6. My God, he's baiting them.
Notice, Bush says "Vote for me. I promise we're not going to have a terrorist surveillance program".

He's taunting the Democrats, the ass. And those Dems...complete milque toast.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:23 PM
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11. Will a Repug stand up and shout STOP the domestic spying?
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 01:40 AM
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24. He knows a bunch of pussies when he sees them.
When this record-breaking incompetent isn't in the least afraid to bait your party, you know it's time to stick a fork in it.

One hope: clean the party from top to bottom of corporate ass-kissers and warmongers.

Yet another: let them continue to fail and flail while we start a third party.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 07:13 AM
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27. The Dems continually fall for strawmen and non sequiturs.
Being in favor of a terrorist surveillance program has nothing to do with calling for a censure of Bush for violating the constitution in the application of the terrorist surveillance program. You can be for surveillance of muslim terrorists and be against the illegal surveillance of millions of American people. He abused the system that existed and THAT's why he's going to get impeached.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:13 PM
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7. Sort of like the "needless deaths" in Iraq I guess. nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:17 PM
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8. did he notice that NO Repug told him to stop either?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:18 PM
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9. some smart jounalist should have shouted that back to him!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:19 PM
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10. both parties shot back in December, now they have a bill to allow him
to do domestic spying.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:23 PM
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12. strawman
"I did notice that nobody from the Democratic Party has actually stood up and called for getting rid of the terrorist surveillance program," Bush said at a news
conference Tuesday.

"You know, if that's what they believe, if people in the party believe that, then they ought to stand up and say it," Bush said.


we're against spying on ordinary, innocent American citizens. Are you, you *moron, calling innocent American citizens 'terrorists'?

dp
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:27 PM
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13. The most partisan pResident in modern US history,
and the most partisan Congress, too,
and he has the gall to whine about "needless partisanship"?
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:33 PM
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14. Why is Dubya wiretapping terrorists instead of killing them?
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:40 PM
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15. Ooooo.....
:D Good 'un.
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:46 PM
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16. Lying is not Christian
Wiretapping US citizens w/o warrants or probable cause is not a "terrorist surveillance program." L-I-A-R

Jesus is not pleased.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:52 PM
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17. Feingold: On the Need to Hold Bush Accountable
Statement of Senator Russell D. Feingold
On the Need to Hold the President Accountable for the
Illegal Domestic Surveillance Program
March 16, 2006


As Congress heads into a weeklong recess, I hope members of the Senate have a chance to listen to their constituents back home. All Americans want to fight terrorism and protect our country from those who wish to do us harm, but they don’t want to sacrifice the rights and principles our country was founded upon. One of those fundamental American principles is that the President doesn’t get to pick and choose which laws he follows.

There has been a lot of talk in recent weeks, and especially this week, about Congress changing the law to authorize the President’s otherwise illegal domestic surveillance program. Of course, anyone who makes that argument concedes that the program is illegal. In addition, the President has yet to explain convincingly why he can’t follow the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, which allows wiretapping of terrorists while protecting law-abiding Americans.

The President has broken the law, and the censure resolution I introduced on Monday is intended to hold him accountable. While there have been plenty of personal attacks directed at me this week, few have argued the merits. The facts for censure are clear. FISA makes it a crime to wiretap American citizens on American soil without the requisite court orders – which is exactly what the President has admitted doing. Before the program was revealed, he misled the American people by assuring them that he was getting warrants for wiretaps. Since it was revealed, he has misled the American people about the legal basis for his actions.

I look forward to a full hearing, debate and vote in committee on this important matter. If the Committee fails to consider the resolution in a reasonable time period, I will ask that there be a vote in the full Senate. I know Americans will have a lot to say when they see their elected officials during the break. I hope my colleagues listen.

http://feingold.senate.gov/~feingold/statements/06/03/20063166.html
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:29 PM
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18. Senator Frank Church re TYRANNY.
At the same time, that capability at any time could be turned around on the American people and no American would have any privacy left, such {is} the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn’t matter. There would be no place to hide. If this government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back, because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology...

I don’t want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return.

Sen. Frank Church

This is why we need censure. Bush broke the law, and crossed the bridge.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:32 PM
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19. Oh. And Republicans Burying their Collective Heads in Clinton's Pants ...
WASN'T 'needless partisanship' eh?

Not that this is the same thing. It is NOT. In the case of bu$hit - we have GOOD REASON - truckloads of them - to both censure and impeach his sorry, lying arse.

With Clinton, that was not the case. There were NO GOOD REASONS to impeach the man. That's why REPUBLICANS had to dig around in his pants LOOKING for excuses - and THAT, my friends WAS 'needless partisanship'.

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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:59 PM
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20. Well said Triana well said!!!
:applause:
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:59 PM
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21. "Just plain dishonest." Damn straight, Mr. Feingold!
We've never had a more dishonest president, ever! Fukkin Repug hypocrites tried to turn lying about a blow job into a constitutional crisis, then turn around and look the other way when a Repug president subverts the constitution and lies about it -- lies about everything he does, in fact! -- then accuses Democrats of "needless partisanship."

Why do we keep putting up with this crap?!?! :banghead: What would it take to convince our "representatives" that this SOB must be impeached?!?!
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 11:11 PM
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22. where?
Where are all these terrorists we've been wiretapping? If they're planning terrorists acts, shouldn't we arrest them?

It's been 5 years, shouldn't thousands of terrorists be in jail?

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 07:05 AM
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25. HAHAHAHA! LOL! Chuckle, chortle, spit.
Karma's a bitch, Bush. Did you really think you could take us out of the political formula and get away with it forever? What was it that Dick Cheney called us? Background music?
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 07:48 AM
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28. Breaking the law is not Presidential
If Bush does not believe he is obligated
to obey the laws of the land then he should resign .. iMMEDIATELY
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 08:24 AM
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29. Shut up, Chimpolini, you don't get a say in this
Edited on Wed Mar-22-06 08:25 AM by Canuckistanian
Why don't you take a nice, long vacation?
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 08:33 AM
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31. Once again he uses a straw man argument
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:02 AM
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32. This man is pure evil
He has absoulutely no remorse for his crimes!
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:19 AM
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33. I agree, it is needless - have kkkarl back off the Repubs and let them
vote like they should - to censure you!
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Brooklyn Michael Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:31 AM
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34. EVERY Progressive needs to keep hammering this point....
And I don't mean the "Bush should be censured" - he should, but that's not what we need to keep repeating.

What we need to keep hammering away at, until every last sheeple, undecided, independent, or just plain apathetic-to-politics person understands is this:

Democrats support wiretapping terrorists - USING COURT APPROVAL, AS REQUIRED BY LAW. Saying anything else is not just dishonest, but an outright LIE.

and

CHANGING the law to make what the President ALREADY did LEGAL means that it was ILLEGAL WHEN HE DID IT

That's it. That's all we need to keep saying. Bush broke the law, and lies when he says Dems don't want to spy on terrorists. PERIOD.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:51 AM
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35. Probation for murderer is "needless punishment"?
Anyone who voted for this criminal should go stick their head in the toilet.
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