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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:27 PM
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Supreme court weighs Bush's Guantanamo tribunals
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060328/pl_nm/security_court_dc_8

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Supreme Court justices on Tuesday sharply questioned the legal basis for military tribunals set up by President George W. Bush in his war on terrorism. Hearing a challenge by Osama bin Laden's former driver, several of the justices appeared troubled by the administration's position that international laws including the Geneva Convention do not apply to the Guantanamo prisoners.

"It's an extraordinary act, I think, to withdraw jurisdiction from this court in a pending case," Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said during arguments that may yield the most significant ruling on presidential war powers since World War Two.

"Why should we assume that Congress withdrew our jurisdiction to hear this case?" she asked U.S. Solicitor General Paul Clement, who sought to defend Bush's broad powers in the war on terrorism.

Justices Antonin Scalia and Samuel Alito, a Bush appointee who joined the court last month, seemed sympathetic to the government's arguments.

(Well, yeah, Scalito have already decided, haven't they.)


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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:31 PM
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1. Alito and Scalia
Alito will side with the government because he favors a strong federal executive with very few checks.

Scalia will side with the gov't because he's batshit crazy.

Thomas will side with the gov't because he's intellectually weak and will follow Scalia's lead thinking that will provide cover.

Roberts will side with the gov't because he's a whore.

Pray for the continued good health of the other 5 justices.
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Thorandmjolnir Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:36 PM
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2. Roberts is not sitting in on this case
I think it will 5-3 for Mr. Hamdan.
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:38 PM
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3. I think you're right. nt
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:40 PM
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4. Roberts recused himself - he was one of the 3 Appeals court judges
who heard the case at that level when it was being argued.

I keep wondering if Scalia will give Shrub the big FU for passing him over for Chief.

I also wonder just how ambitious Roberts is - ambitious enough to not watch the power of the Court stripped away by Shrub's power grabbing?
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:58 PM
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5. Remember in this case a 4-4 tie is a de facto Bush win
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 06:58 PM by tritsofme
Since a tie would revert to Roberts' ruling on the apellate court, although no precedent is set.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:28 PM
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6. At least Roberts isn't there.
If this thing flys, Bush can deny habeus corpus to anyone suspected of being a terrorist. There needs to be more attention paid to this case.
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