Iraq drags down Bush in Missouri (under 40% approval)

[deadparrot]

When President George W. Bush returns to Missouri on Wednesday, he'll find himself in politically unfriendly territory, a new poll indicates.

That's an unusual predicament for a Republican who easily carried the state in 2004.

According to the poll, conducted by Research 2000 for the Post-Dispatch and KMOV-TV (Channel 4), a majority of likely voters in Missouri now view the president unfavorably. That's a significant change from the last poll, in January, which showed Missouri's electorate to be split.

Of the 800 likely voters polled last week, less than 40 percent rated Bush's performance in office as "excellent" or "good." And if they had a chance to revisit the 2004 election, the poll participants gave an 8 percentage-point edge to the Democratic loser, Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/D51BF3E9DEC30CAA862571990018F60E?OpenDocument

[Tarheel_Dem]

1. I'm sorry, but they got.....

what they deserve, unfortunately the rest of us have to suffer as well. What exactly is it that they disapprove of now, that they didn't know in '04? I had a co-worker tell me that she voted for bush in '00 & '04, and now regrets that vote, but she didn't think she could stand to look at Kerry for four years? :wtf: I mean, is that not the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard?

[Burried News]

2. I was never a strong Kerry supporter (I was in the ABB camp)

But Kerry would have made a fine president. I used to have friends like yours. Now I say fuggem for betraying my country.

[Mandate My Ass]

4. No more ridiculous

than the ones who said they only voted for him in '04 because they wanted him to clean up the messes he made. Right, like there was ever any indication he gave a shit about his messes or said a word about changing course. His entire life has been about destroying something from the inside and letting his daddy's rich cronies bail him out.

If it wasn't for his family's money he'd be some small time hood somewhere barely eking by between arrests and talking large.

Your friend sounds like a typical Faux News watcher. They spent most of the campaign '04 making fun of Kerry's looks because they had to avoid the issues at all costs.

[Tarheel_Dem]

5. Agreed........

She's an R.N. who was brought to this country by her caucasian husband from the Philipines (now divorced), and she just adopted his politics. I'm not willing to write her off yet, because I think she felt comfortable coming to me with her feelings because she knows I supported Gore & Kerry.

I still think there's hope, and I truly believe people are slowly waking up from their long overdue slumber. Believe it or not, my county in N.C. (which is huge) went for Kerry.

[Mandate My Ass]

6. Wow, thank goodness hubby isn't around to tell her what her opinion is

anymore. Sooner or later they'll wake up and blame anybody and everybody else for the disaster of the Bush years. Good for you for sticking with her regardless.

I love NC. I have to get down there again sometime. I haven't had any decent bbq in ages. :hi:

[Tarheel_Dem]

19. Come On Down......

Our annual BBQ Festival is held the last weekend in Oct. :toast:

[AlCzervik]

9. oh that one drove me nuts!! I remember seeing a woman on my local

news that said just that "He should have to clean up the mess he made" that has got to be one of stupidest justification for voting for anyone ever.

[Mandate My Ass]

15. They should all be made to wear shirts saying "I voted for stupid

because I am too."

That rationale still makes my head :nuke:

[AlCzervik]

16. yup, i don't get, lets see he's made a total fing mess, he's proved his

incompetence time and time again so naturally you want to vote him back to clean it up, yup, makes total sense.:sarcasm: When i was a girl scout troop leader we had this one woman that handled the $$ during cookie sales, she f'd up big time, we kindly told her "No thank you" when she offered the next year to handle it again.

[IndependentVoice]

25. what pisses me off

is when people say they voted for him because of his morals...both times, my response is always what morals?

[MODemocrat]

13. Looking at George Bush is the pits

Shifty eyes, "play cowboy". Absolutely fake, and I can't stomach him. The co-worker is most likely a republican, and shouldn't even make such a flimsy excuse! It makes her/him look so small.

:puke:

[madmark]

17. i also do not understand what these people who voted for bush the

second time around, who now do not approve of his actions, are seeing that they didn't see in fall of 04. I also do not understand what these same people found viscerally repugnant about Kerry who strikes me as a non-flashy, competent person. Is it just right wing echo chamber brainwashing starting to wear thin? Is it something else? I don't know the answer.

[Tarheel_Dem]

18. That makes two of us........

We have both obviously missed something. A lot of us knew that the current occupant of the WH was a rich, spoiled, nearly illerate, failed businessman, slacker, dopehead, alcoholic who couldn't even be bothered to fulfill his committment (TANG) to his country. And certainly, by '04, there was no doubt that this guy was a total f***up. But even after learning all that, we still wound up with this guy for another four years. Thank you Missouri.

[Roy]

20. No!! we did not get what we deserve....

There was a lot of effort put forth to stop stealing of the lst election.
there was massive GOTV efforts going on.
But, the corruption in areas not under our control was so great it was not overcome.

[tfj2]

26. deserved

it's hard not to say that about katrina and rita victims too...all went red...but we all suffer, not to mention the animals...our cabal is the biggest terrorists the world has ever seen, but most people don't even know history, much less that it repeats itself..pitiful..

[coalition_unwilling]

3. I grew up in southwest Missouri (on a farm), right on the

northern fringe of the Bible Belt and northwest edge of "tornado alley."

The state is full of bigots and close-minded people. (Even St. Louis and Kansas City are not immune; check out the history of attempts to de-segregate St. Louis-area schools, if you don't believe me.)

Of course, Missouri was a slave state prior to 1860.

[freebrew]

23. A bit of an over-statement...

that really does no one any good. Missouri certainly was no cakewalk for *.
He only won by a few percentage points. If you can believe the polls...

There are a few problems here that need attention. The Dems have very little $ in this state.
In my own town, the R's have a huge office building for their campaign headquarters, the Dems
are always begging for a place to use. What's more, this county used to be solid Dem. Until the MSM started all the RW hype and lies for the cabal. Then for some reason, the R money started flowing in. It will be a while until that can be reversed, I'm afraid.

Another thing here I've noticed: this is a resort type area, many folks are moving in(retiring and business reasons) from other states. These people all seem to be Rs. They come from Springfield, IL(red area), Iowa(red state), Kansas(red state) and they all bring their Repig ideas with them. It's been an invasion here and there's no way I see it can be stopped unless some Dems decide to do the same.

So, here's an idea. Maybe we let that keep happening. Missouri has few Electoral votes, if the pigs keep moving here, maybe the Dems can take over where they left. It's happening in Illinois and maybe we see some light in Kansas. Just a thought?

[coalition_unwilling]

27. Once I educated myself on St. Louis and de-segregation,

I pretty much wrote Missouri off. (BTW: I grew up in the town, Lamar, that was Harry Truman's birthplace.)

I have relatives who live in LaDue (a suburb of St. Louis) and they set new standards for bigotry, such that I won't even talk with them much anymore.

[spag68]

7. What happened to Missouri?

Isn't that where Harry Truman came from?

[MODemocrat]

12. Yes, The great Harry S Truman made Missouri proud

Shame on those turncoats for voting for Bush over a war hero. They are usually right about who will be elected; but, I feel that many people wouldn't vote the way they do, if Missouri wasn't known for that.
No one wants to be a loser, so they go for the one MO endorses. That's just an assumption on my part! :spank:

[UpInArms]

22. jmho - but I think it was the fundies -

back in 1999, my neighbor was given a vhs tape by her church - "The Rapture" - and she had been voting Dem for years - but then the RW started in on the "Gore will take your guns" shit and the small-minded farmers fell for all the BS - there is a tremendous amount of guilt on their part (the 2 small counties that I live in and near both went red after being historically blue) - and no one I know or talk to has one good thing to say about Dimson and his evil cabal - even the die-hard republicans around here talk about impeachment.

[snooper2]

8. Hasn't Missouri decided everyone Pres. election correctly

for like 70 years or something...

[MODemocrat]

10. Missouri disappointed me badly supporting Bush

Sure hope that poll holds true so we can get some Democrats back in office. Claire McCaskill is ahead of
Jim Talent at this time, and I never thought that would happen. :dem:

[LynneSin]

11. I hope this helps us get rid of Jim "NO" Talent

Time for a change in the Show-Me state

[hadrons]

14. see Gary and Vivian Ruckel (article a couple of years old)

GERSTER, Mo. - Gary Ruckel, like most rural Missourians, backed Matt Blunt for governor last fall and voted other Republicans into legislative seats.

Ruckel agreed with Blunt on issues such as gun control and gay marriage, but he was not considering a subject that hit much closer to home: medical care.

So when Blunt proposed cuts in Medicaid last month that could cost Ruckel and his wife, Vivian Ruckel, some services, the couple had second thoughts about backing Republicans.

"It kind of jumps back and kicks you in the teeth, is what it does, because I wasn't planning on this," said Ruckel, who lives about 50 miles north of Springfield. "If they cut back on Medicaid, it's going to crucify us, because we don't make that much."

....

Ruckel and his wife, both 64, said they were among those in need. Ruckel, a former police officer and prison guard, has emphysema, arthritis, a spinal defect and other ailments. His wife is in worse shape, suffering heart and lung ailments, and kidney disease. She tires quickly and cannot do much outside the home. Ruckel is on nine medications; his wife is on 21.

With a combined income of $1,357 a month, mostly from Social Security, they qualify for full payment of medical and pharmacy bills through Medicaid. Both are classified as workers with disabilities because Ruckel works on lawn mowers and his wife does sewing, making about $60 a month combined, he said.

....

http://www.tilrc.org/docs/0205mocuts.htm

With a combined income of $1,357 a month and the hubby suffering from emphysema, arthritis, a spinal defect and other ailments and wifey with suffering heart and lung ailments, and kidney disease they were worried about gay marriage

[XanaDUer]

21. Yup.

Gay marriage is what they are worried about.

As I have always told those who work for a living, or are disabled, etc., who go for republicans: YOU , my dear, are on just as many "entitlement" programs as the so-called "welfare queens" you rail against.

While I am attempting to feel sorry for these two, they made their beds. They can always have the warmth of knowing that gays cannot marry, as they lie in bed dying of lack of medical care or drugs.

[leftyladyfrommo]

24. Yes!

I don't hear people talking about him much at all anymore. Odd for this city right in the middle of the Bible belt.

[Fovea]

28. The president is breaking the baby Jesus.

Here in the 'red state.'

Now all the president's talking points are
causes of anger for those sad rural Mo.s who have seen their lifelines cut by the Pubs they voted for to keep queers from marrying as the Blunt/Jetton/Highstreet crowd does an Arkansas reel on their faces in $1K cowboy boots.

Meanwhile, the Blunt/Jetton narrative is that things are better than ever. It is spooky to watch people with that much power that completely out of reality. My advice is for the average Missourian to buckle the seatbelt, and assume the crash position, because these guys are not even vaguely sober behind the wheel of state.