Some Bush voters have buyer's remorse

[sabra]

http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060709/REPOSITORY/607090355/1028/OPINION02


Some Bush voters have buyer's remorse
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The Monitor's pollster, Del Ali, recently revisited the 2004 presidential election in three battleground states (Missouri, Nevada and Iowa), asking voters who they now prefer between President Bush and John Kerry. Although Bush carried each of those states in his re-election, voters have turned sharply against him, Ali found.

His nonpartisan firm, Research 2000, surveyed 800 likely voters in Missouri and 600 likely voters each in Iowa and Nevada for local newspaper and television outlets. Here are the results:

• Iowa: Kerry 49 percent, Bush 40 percent.

• Missouri: Kerry 48, Bush 40.

• Nevada: Kerry 47, Bush 38.


This poll reflects disapproval of Bush more than support for Kerry, said Ali, who is based in Maryland. Kerry's numbers were similar to the actual election results, while Bush lost voters to the "not sure"camp.
"There's no question it's Iraq,"said Ali, calling the war - far above Hurricane Katrina or other domestic problems - the catalyst in the president's drop. "As goes Iraq, so goes the Bush presidency."

[AlamoDemoc]

1. I love that saying "Buyer's Remorse"

I use it all the time when returning an item to a store..."But, Sir, you understand buyer's remorse...your policy clearly states that"

[rodeodance]

2. we are all paying for their buyers remorse!

[LiberalFighter]

16. A difference we pay for... at least when we buy something that we

later find wrong others aren't forced to buy the same product.

[Divine Discontent]

17. HA! gotta make a sticker for that saying!

I know several people who switched to kerry before the election, thank God.

but I know some that didn't, they wouldn't admit remorse to me. and those people we ALL see who have the W'04 stickers... what WORLD are they in???




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[Tesha]

30. "those people" (The Wasticka people...)

> those people we ALL see who have the W'04 stickers...
> what WORLD are they in???

Those prople are:

o The religiously insane

o The gun nuts

o The virulently anti-gay (closeted gays)

o The rich

It's easy to distinguish the firstthree from the last.
The folks in the first three groups are driving shitboxes
but proudly displaying their Wastickas. They often are
displaying other stickers (or Rosary beads hanging from
their mirror, etc.) which will let you decide which
sub-group they fall into.

The folks in the last group are driving very expensive,
very new SUVs and often have no other stickers except
for the "W".

Tesha

[Pirate Smile]

3. This also shows part of our problem. We have to get above 50%

to win a Presidential election if there isn't a third party diverting part of the Republican vote.

Clinton got elected twice but never got near 50% but because of Perot it didn't matter.

Gore and Kerry didn't have that luxury.

As long as our numbers are still below 50% it still demonstrates our problem

Sorry to be Debbie downer but that is what jumped out at me.

[blm]

5. They've also not heard any positive news about Kerry in almost 2 yrs., so

you would expect that if they did that would count. Imagine if people listened to the debates again, and heard Kerry talking about port security, about alternative fuels as a national security issue, and about Bush's inexplicable neglect of North Korea. Imagine that the media finally told them that the swifts had NOTHING to back up their lies - the Naval records prove Kerry 100% right and the swiftliars 100% wrong.

I think you'd come up with a different number.

[Pirate Smile]

6. The Republicans and the press/media smear machine have been

very successful.

Trust me, I'm not happy about it. I've just had a recent experience showing how well it has worked (see link)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1596688&mesg_id=1597818

I think we have a problem in the current atmosphere of rising past the 50% point.

The Republicans have successfully branded Democrats in an extremely negative way for a large portion of the American public.

We really need to damage the Republican brand name. You would think it would be easy considering what BushCo and the Republican controlled government have done over the past few years. It needs to be done in a methodical and brutal way.

I wish the DNC or some other Dem organization would work with some vicious PR flacks and figure out the best way to accomplish this. It would need to be a long term project.

Another way to break that 50% number is hopefully increasing our numbers with the growing hispanic population. Hopefully, the Republicans are doing to the entire country what Pete Wilson did to California which turned it blue for years and years.

This isn't personally about either Kerry or Gore (at least not to me). It is about the Democratic Party in general. Kerry and Gore were just forced to carry the burden into their general election races.

[blm]

11. A DNC that works to secure the voting machines before the election is what

will do it.

I also don't trust any of these polls, anyway. These same people told us for months that Kerry's campaign was dead in the water, and that Dean and Gephardt had the strongest numbers in Iowa.

[delphinium]

12. Clinton actually did approach 50 percent in 1996

He got 49 percent, I believe.

[Pirate Smile]

14. You're right. I just looked and he did get 49%.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781448.html

I still wish we could break 50%, although considering the voter suppression and voting machines who the hell knows exactly what the true vote could be if actually cast and counted.

I still believe the smear job done on the Democratic Party has many people who would be otherwise receptive, turning away and voting against their interests.

We need a long term strategy to change the image of the Democrats and damage the image of the Republicans.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[sandnsea]

27. 49.2, 48.4, 48.3

Not all that much difference between the 3, and Clinton was an incumbent who should have gotten over well over the 50% mark. We're stuck and not winning over new voters.

[sandnsea]

28. Yes, we have to change our image

The not sure voters still don't want to vote FOR those stereotypes that they perceive the Dem Party to represent. We've got to break down those stereotypes in order for these people to feel like they're voting for a President who respects them.

[Cha]

4. ANd that was suppost to be

the feather in his dunce cap..

"There's no question it's Iraq,"said Ali, calling the war - far above Hurricane Katrina or other domestic problems - the catalyst in the president's drop. "As goes Iraq, so goes the Bush presidency."

How ironic that all those people had to die and bush isn't even scoring points from it.

But bush "doesn't want to be popular" he wants to be "right"..too bad he just fell off the stage.

[Mz Pip]

10. Bush is like Napoleon

and will go down in history as such. His blunders in Iraq will be compared to Napoleon's invasion of Russia. He will bankrupt this country with his quest for historical greatness.

I don't know how long it will take for the US to recover from this administration's blunders. Certainly not in my lifetime and I plan on hanging around for a few more decades.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[amandabeech]

29. I could not agree with you more.

I, too, figure to be around another 2-3 decades. It will be interesting to find out that so many people actually did vote for Gore or Kerry. I expect that 20 years from now, if you polled the 2000 and 2004 voters, at least half of the Bush voters won't admit to it.

[Dover]

7. This assumes there was no voting fraud. Maybe the poll numbers are

similar to those that actually existed in those states before the e-vote.

[daleo]

9. My first thought too. n/t

[NYC]

13. That's what I was wondering.

[jaysunb]

18. My thoughts exactly !

just like the exit polls.

[SensibleAmerican]

8. Neither Kerry (nor Bush) is running

The things that really matter is:

1. The Party preference poll for 2006.
2. That we get over the hump in at least 16 congressional districts.

[Quantess]

15. Duh. It's obvious enthusiasm has waned.

I know people who voted for the Chimp in 2004, and they aren't tooting his horn anymore. They may not disapprove of * yet, but they don't approve as strongly as they once did. That's for damn sure.

[robbedvoter]

19. Or maybe, there were far less buyers than alleged?

Not that many people changed their minds. Just MSM deflating their lies a little.

[The Backlash Cometh]

20. We're in the Post-Nazi era. NOBODY will admit they served in the German

army.

[Reckon]

21. LOL.. good one... n/t

[Catchawave]

22. So they need to kick butt this Nov

...and "fire" all those republicans who rubber stamp BushCo's agenda. Only then, will we take our country back :patriot:

[mvd]

23. There's still hope if people are smart enough to carry

this feeling through to 2008. We must be on guard because the Repukes will stop at nothing to influence public opinion. It sure is nice seeing those numbers!

[Erika]

24. A GOP friend voted for W so he could finish the war he started

She thought it was his responsibility. I asked her how she felt now that W said the next administration would have to deal with the Iraq war. She just walked away. I know they are getting the message.

[Ringo84]

25. Re:

<smug>Boy. Must they feel stupid.</smug>

Where was that buyer's remorse two years ago, geniuses?
Ringo

[mitchum]

26. Too little, too late...Their STUPIDITY has caused immeasurable harm...

Fuck them