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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:30 AM
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MSNBC - Judge orders Grand Jury tapes released to the public.
Edited on Mon Feb-05-07 10:46 AM by Democrat 4 Ever
Oh, snap!

Just now on MSNBC. Scooter ain't gonna like this.

edit to add link -

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070205/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cia_leak_trial
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:31 AM
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1. Even though I've had major dental work today
Still, time to get the :popcorn:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:32 AM
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2. BOOOYOW!
:rofl: :woohoo:

:bounce: :toast:
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:33 AM
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3. Big fat SMILE on my face right now!!!
:applause: :woohoo: :woohoo: :applause:
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:34 AM
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4. I'm sure they'll try to swiftboat this judge now
an activist judge, I'm sure.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:36 AM
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5. K&R Wonderful news! Now the question will be where we can
hear (eight hours?) the tapes?
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:36 AM
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6. The judge knows he'd just be overruled on appeal anyway
Edited on Mon Feb-05-07 10:36 AM by Kagemusha
(edit: if he DID NOT release the tapes) so why waste everyone's time?
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:38 AM
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7. They all seemed to be real happy when President Clinton's
tape was released.

Remember that?
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:01 AM
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24. Yes, I remember that.
Ken Starr said he wanted Clinton's testimony videotaped so that an absent juror could later view it, but none of the other witneses were taped when jurors were not there. Federal rules prohibit the release of Grand Jury material but Starr got a court order to allow him to share the video with House Publicans, who were not bound by the secrecy requirement. True to form Newt Gingrich & company made it available to the public as soon as they got their hands on it.

This is big! Every dirty detail on those Scooter's tapes is going to be revealed now. Americans are going to start getting their first significant glimpses of what Junior and his junta have really done done. Lord Vader is toast.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 07:35 PM
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74. Once again, short-sighted Republicans screwed by their own precedents.
I am smiling so delightfully right now, I must charm all.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:28 PM
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75. Correction..."SCREWN."
Bwahaha!
Don't you LOVE the Fitz???
AND now, the judge?
Joining you in a BIG fat grin,
BHN
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 03:19 AM
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82. Grinning here too
Can't wait till Lord Vader gets put on the stand. "Well you know, Pat, I'm not going to get into that. Simply stated, there is no doubt that you are, in fact, out of line and I'm not going to answer that question. Go f*@k yourself."

Mighty convenient for Publicans, how this trial didn't get started until after last November.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:38 AM
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8. Party @ my house.


Treason on Parade ...... So when does bush's #s hit the teens?

There goes the military vote and people who think national security is important.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:41 AM
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9. Judging by the FDL liveblogging, the judge has not ruled yet.
But he sure seems to be leaning that way.

:shrug:

Did MSNBC jump a gun?

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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:44 AM
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14. AP link here: Tapes of Libby testimony to be released
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:51 AM
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17. Thanks. Wonder why FDL has not mentioned it?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:55 AM
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19. not sure, but CNN has it as well
Libby grand jury tapes to be public
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Tapes of former White House aide Lewis "Scooter" Libby testifying to a grand jury about when he learned the identity of CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson will be made public, a judge ruled Monday.

Defense lawyers for the former aide to Vice President Dick Cheney had sought to block public airing of audio recordings of Libby testifying to a grand jury, saying the media's use of sound bites from the recording could make it difficult to insulate the non-sequestered jury from news of the case.

U.S. District Court Judge Reggie Walton ruled that the tapes will be released to the media and the public after the several hours of recordings have been played to the jury in Libby's criminal case. Transcripts of those tapes will also be entered into the public case file, said Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald.

link: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/02/05/monday/index.html?section=cnn_latest
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:59 AM
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22. Actually, they do have it:
"Judge Walton: The first matter is press access to the grand jury tapes… it would appear to me that this circuit has given a level of importance to the public's right of access to exhibits. Considering the importance that our circuit has given to this right, legalese for saying he's going to give press copies."

"Walton: I do have my concerns about the use of these tapes by the media… it's an awesome task to ensure that media coverage does not interfere with a fair trial, which is my paramount responsibility… but based on my reading of previous cases, I think the circuit (e.g., in an appeal) would rule that the tapes should be released, and it's not my job to speculate otherwise.

(I guess he wasn't really reconsidering; the exchange above was just a Socratic exercise of some sort. Let the record show that it took less than half an hour for me to become totally confused by what was going on in the courtroom.)"

So in other words FDL did indeed say the tapes would be released.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:18 AM
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29. They're in the courtroom--the judge may not have announced it to them.
If I were old enough to rememeber Watergate, I'd be making jokes about eight-minute gaps and expletives deleted!

:eyes:
rocknation
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 03:36 PM
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59. You nut
:rofl:
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:17 PM
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63. 18.
:P

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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 04:17 AM
Response to Reply #63
83. Remember the old Watergate joke, fellow codgers and codgettes?
"Did you know that Richard Nixon is releasing his autobiography?"

"No, really?"

"Yes, it has eighteen and a half blank pages in the middle of his second term as President."


:rofl:

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #14
56. Maybe our cries of Not seeing or hearing the trial has been
HEARD thanks Judge
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #56
67. Yes, America as a united nation needs to know. Our taxes pay for them.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:41 AM
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10. Woo hoo hoo!!!!!!!!!
This is great news to start the day. Wish I had more time to follow FDL today.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:42 AM
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Democrat 4 Ever...here's a link, please edit you OP
to include the link :hi:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070205/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cia_leak_trial

Thanks for posting, it's great news. :D
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:42 AM
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11. Vice-President 's Office Responds to news of tape release
According to a spokesperson for the Vice-President "It's all hogwash and out of line"
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:42 AM
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13. I feel another cartoon in the works
:hi:
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:46 PM
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42. I wonder what rEpUbLiCaNhOtTiE would say about this?
She might think it's Libby's new music video!
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 01:37 PM
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48. toon treat
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 01:41 PM
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49. LOL....love it!
:thumbsup:
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:02 AM
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26. You forgot the "...in fact..."
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #26
54. Or the "with respect to..."
But he don' respect nothin'.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:42 AM
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12. The trial is now MADE FOR TV
DO you think it will get any play in the "liberal" media? :sarcasm:
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:49 AM
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16. there are a couple sketched out
but they hinge on whether or not cheney takes the stand

meanwhile - I'm finding it ironic or maybe just down right :rofl:

bush has managed to acheive a rating equal to or near enough to Nixon. Nixon had his tapes which were pretty damning -- and now the bushies have their tapes...

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Jacklyn75 Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:46 AM
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15. Yay!!!!! K&R! n/t
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ohtransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:51 AM
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18. drip, drip, drip...
:spank:


:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:


:kick:

"Hogwash" :applause: :rofl:
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:57 AM
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20. AWESOME!!! Great news on a Monday morning!!!
Here's a kick for the truth :kick:

I can't wait to hear these....who wants to wager that there is going to be some pretty damning things in these tapes???

This is huge!!! :applause:
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:57 AM
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21. Snap is right!!!!!!!
Booyakashaka Boom.
Great News.
Can you say treason Mr. Cheney, I knew you could.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:00 AM
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23. Excellent. n/t
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:01 AM
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25. Warning to the Big Dick:
We have the tapes. We know what you did that Summer.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:03 AM
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27. The price tag of their war just went up.
I love apolitical justice.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:17 AM
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28. Oh Boy, Libby Is ROYALLY FUCKED!
:rofl:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #28
51. .....will add with a chuckle from "The Conqueror Worm
The fever call'd "Living"
Is conquered at last.
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:21 AM
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30. It's going to be very difficult for the RW to spin this genie back into her bottle.
This should make a splash on M$M.

Here's hopes and prayers.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #30
31. E.Z. I.W.C.F.
It Was Clinton's Fault. And Sandy Berger's too.

Can you say Dick gone by St. Pats?

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #31
43. Ah, to spend St Pats in Butte celebrating Cheney out of office...
THAT'D be some party!
:woohoo: :party: :woohoo:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:59 PM
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45. Good Luck with Dick spinning @ Treason
Outing a C.I.A. agent and rolling up her cover company that
was after REAL WMDs ..... also Joe Wilson is a real American Hero
too ..... in 1990 he told Saddam Hussein if he was going to kill
any Americans (Saddam was holding about 100 hostage and Joe
was acting ambassador in Baghdad .... "Start w/ me and see what
happens." ..... all of the Americans were released within 48 Hrs. )

My hope is Cheney has to testify ..... Jurists will just "love him."

http://www.usflagdepot.com/store/media/St.%20Pat's%20Day.gif
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:43 PM
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76. I hope the jurists are average Americans, fighting to pay their bills and survive.
Somehow, I doubt they would have much sympathy for
the corporate tycoon who lied their sons and daughters
into war while committing treason and corporate fraud
on their tax dollars....
BHN
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PegDAC Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #30
68. I can't wait to hear Keith on this tonight! n/t
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dsweet Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:26 AM
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32. Bill Clinton is to Blame-O
Delightful news, can't wait for the reaction.
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #32
50. Yeah, Clinton set a "precedent" didn't he? Hee-Hee
BTW, Thanks Bill!
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #50
60. I'm sure as hell glad SOMETHING good came of all that
Perhaps there'll be more.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #60
64. Hoisted on their own hubris. Has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?
:D

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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #64
80. And trapped by their own overreach
Yeah, VERY nice ring to it.

:hi:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:27 AM
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33. WhooHoo!
Their walls are tumbling down!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:29 AM
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:34 AM
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35. And I'll take the pictures so Lush Limpballs and InSannity can
tell their listeners it is all just a fraternity prank. Fun, I tell you, wild, crazy fun.

Water boarding Dead Eye Dick - the mental picture is enough to get me through a cold ass day in Kentucky.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:44 AM
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36. Sweet!
This is going to be fun!
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:01 PM
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37. cubicle happy dance!
:bounce:

:applause:

:thumbsup:
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cali boy Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:24 PM
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38. BAHAHAHAHA
good lord just when I think the right is the most screwed it could possibly be, something else delightly falls in their lap.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:32 PM
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39. Excellent!
:popcorn:
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momster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:35 PM
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40. That's Gonna Leave a Mark
Sting!
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:36 PM
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41. Excellent
Those who misuse Our government and public trust should be shamed, embarrassed, and humiliated.

let the "frog march" continue in earnest.
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PegDAC Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:08 PM
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69. Getting my front-row seat
for the Perp-Walk Parade!

:party: :toast: :beer: :popcorn:
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:47 PM
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44. A major victory for Fitzgerald that the jury gets to hear the tapes. And...
..a major victory for American democracy that WE get to hear them!

Now Libby's jury will get a full hit of what Fitzgerald and his team, the FBI and the grand jury were having to put up with, in their effort to get to the bottom (top?) of the Plame/Brewster-Jennings outings. Full on obstruction, blatant lying.

And the rest of us...well...we may have tried to imagine what was going on in that grand jury room. Now we get to see/hear it as the grand jury did. They represent US. We have a right to see/hear what THEY saw/heard, as the chief aide to the Vice President of the United States lied to their faces about the grave matters of war and WMD counter-proliferation, and the treason committed connected to both.

And who knows what else we will find out about this criminal government...
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #44
65. I am so going to enjoy listening to these...
:smoke:

Seems like some people gave up on Fitz too soon. Hope this brings them back!

INDICT, IMPEACH, AND IMPRISON THE ADMINISTRATION!

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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 01:00 PM
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46. :D
This is how I feel:

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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 01:14 PM
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47. Tapes: when do we get to see them?
juicy!
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 02:07 PM
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52. Yes!!!!!!!
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 02:34 PM
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53. Don't let the door slam on your way out, Dickie!

Good riddence!!!!!!!!!!
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PegDAC Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #53
71. Then:
*'s ratings continue in precipitous lunge toward the teens, and he is forced to resign. Hello, President Pelosi!
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:56 PM
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79. Deelicious!
deelightful, deelirious!! President Pelosi, WOW!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 02:38 PM
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55. Woohoo
:woohoo:
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 02:54 PM
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57. Surprised asshole didn't pardon him over the weekend to keep this from happening.
recommended
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deepthought42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 03:09 PM
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58. I've got a popcorn maker in the office. Who wants some???
MUAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!! :evilgrin:

:popcorn:
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:11 PM
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61. For 6 years they have gotten away with EVERYTHING
now, finally, the majority of "Murkins" will learn what is really going on with the monkey boy king and his band of thieves and killers!
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:15 PM
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62. I'll see your "Oh, snap!" and raise you a "fuckin' A!"
Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaantastic!

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:29 PM
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66. I just had to .... Freepers are not taking this well


Wonder what they are going to say, when they hear Libby testifying that Cheney ordered the outing of
a CIA agent so as to keep the lie going that got us into Iraq ....... :rofl:

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That figures. You can't get anything released on the Clintons; but you can Libby. Poor misguided people.
What goes around comes around.
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Political prosecutors always look like idiots about the law because this trial is not about the law, its about PR.

Bad press for the Bush Admin is the only goal.

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I wonder if we could listen to Sandy Burgers court proceedings, while they ar at it...
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:09 PM
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70. Wooohooooo!!
It's beginning to look a lot like Watergate - indictments to every crook..
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:58 PM
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72. So sad Scoot
They say the truth wil set you free, in your case it might have the opposite effect. B-) You can throw the whole administration under the bus anytime now.
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fNord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:24 PM
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73. This is the best news I've herd in a long time
:kick: Kicked, and a big thank you to Big Buba Clinton and Ken Star, :hi: we couldn't have done it with out you. As far as dick, :nopity: well, you know your days are numbed :spank:
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:47 PM
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77. Welcome to DU and did you know?
There is a "spell check" button you can utilize before you post?
Heard.
Numbered.
Bubba
Starr

I THINK that's what you meant to say, eh?
No biggie...just making a recommendation
before the DU spelling police show up.
Heh-heh.

BHN




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fNord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:51 PM
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78. thank you.
i think that will help allot:woohoo:
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:07 AM
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81. 'days will be numbed'
is an acceptable assesment of these circumstances condidering the culprits in this crime.

jus' saying.
dp






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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:31 PM
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84. Lets see how the media spins the words.
They will screw up the exact words to make them sound different. They cannot allow the transcripts to stand without their input. Timmy has been found out, he is a kiss ass to the republics.
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