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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 09:26 AM
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Bush slams plan for Iraq pullout date (Radio Address)
Source: Associated Press

Bush slams plan for Iraq pullout date By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer
6 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - President Bush said Saturday that a Democratic plan to set an end date for the war gives "our enemies the victory they desperately want."

Bush and Democratic congressional leaders are trying to bolster their positions on the Iraq war before a scheduled White House meeting.

At Bush's invitation, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record) and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (news, bio, voting record) are due at the White House on Wednesday to discuss the war, particularly a bill funding the military mission through September.

In both the House and Senate, Democrats have attached timelines for withdrawing troops to the bill containing $96 billion in military funding.

~snip~

On Saturday, the president agreed with Democrats that "the American people voted for change in Iraq." But he said that is what is happening now, under a new war plan he announced three months ago to send extra U.S. troops to Iraq to calm Baghdad and Anbar Province and to install a new war commander, Gen. David Petraeus.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070414/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush
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eringer Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 09:31 AM
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1. I Guess this Sets the Stage for a Warm Welcome for Reid and Pelosi
I hope that they find other business on the Hill that precludes them from attending.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:29 AM
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2. Democrats should boycott the Bush White House like they boycott Fox News
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:49 AM
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3. New headline at link: Bush: Democrats offer enemies a victory
Bush: Democrats offer enemies a victory

Same link as OP.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 12:38 PM
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9. I thought the enemy was Saddam and the point of the war was to stop his WMDs
Mission Accomplished.

Let's get out of there.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 11:59 AM
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4. Link to transcript and transcript (what a whiner)
No, Mrbush, they spent the last bit of time working on legislation to GET A CLUE AND A PLAN about what to do about the Iraq debacle. Support the troops, give them a chance and bring them home. How the hell does congress "passing these unacceptable bills"? They accepted them. Quit your whining you self righteous sanctimonious wanna-be-dictator and work with congress.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/04/20070414.html

Good morning. This week I extended an invitation to congressional leaders of both parties to come to the White House so we can discuss the emergency war funding our troops are waiting for. When we meet on Wednesday, I look forward to hearing how Members of Congress plan to meet their responsibilities and provide our troops with the funding they need.

Supporting our troops is a solemn responsibility of all elected officials in Washington, D.C. So 68 days ago, I sent Congress an emergency war spending bill that would provide the vital funds needed for our troops on the front lines. But instead of approving this funding, Democrats in Congress have spent the past 68 days pushing legislation that would undercut our troops. They passed bills that would impose restrictions on our military commanders and set an arbitrary date for withdrawal from Iraq, giving our enemies the victory they desperately want.

The Democrats' bills also spend billions of dollars on domestic projects that have nothing to do with the war, such as funding for tours of the United States Capitol and for peanut storage. And after passing these unacceptable bills in the House and Senate, Democratic leaders then chose to leave town without sending any legislation to my desk.

The Senate came back to Washington earlier this week, but the House is still on its Easter recess. Meanwhile, our troops are waiting for the funds. And to cover the shortfall, our military may be forced to consider what Army General Pete Schoomaker has called "increasingly draconian measures."

In the next few days, our military leaders will notify Congress that they will be forced to transfer $1.6 billion from other military accounts to make up for the gaps caused by Congress' failure to fund our troops in the field. That means our military will have to take money from personnel accounts so they can continue to fund U.S. Army operations in Iraq and elsewhere.

This $1.6 billion in transfer comes on top of another $1.7 billion in transfers that our military leaders notified Congress about last month. In March, Congress was told that the military would need to take money from personnel accounts, weapons and communications systems, so we can continue to fund programs that protect our troops from improvised explosive devices and send hundreds of mine-resistant vehicles to the front lines. These actions are only the beginning, and the longer Congress delays the worse the impact on the men and women of the Armed Forces will be.

I recognize that Republicans and Democrats in Washington have differences over the best course in Iraq, and we should vigorously debate those differences. But our troops should not be trapped in the middle. They have been waiting for this money long enough. Congress must now work quickly and pass a clean bill that funds our troops, without artificial time lines for withdrawal, without handcuffing our generals on the ground, and without extraneous domestic spending.

When you live in Washington, it's easy to get caught up in the complexities of legislative procedure. But for the American people, this is not a complicated debate. When Americans went to the polls last November, they did not vote for politicians to substitute their judgment for the judgment of our commanders on the ground. And they certainly did not vote to make peanut storage projects part of the funding for our troops.

The American people voted for change in Iraq, and that is exactly what our new commander in Iraq, General David Petraeus, is working to achieve. And they expect their elected leaders to support our men and women on the front lines, so they have every resource they need to complete their mission.

We owe it to the American people and to our troops and their families to deliver our full support. I will continue working with Republicans and responsible Democrats to do just that. I call on Members of Congress to put partisanship on hold, resolve their differences, and send me a clean bill that gets our troops the funds they need.

Thank you for listening.
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eringer Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 12:26 PM
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6. "The American people voted for change in Iraq"
Oh, come on George, you really don't expect anyone except the born-again gay bashers to bite on that line.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 12:31 PM
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8. They did vote for change.Change is NOT "more of the same".
Mrbush has a way of speaking the truth then spinning it off to.........................over here, this conclusion, see?
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 12:22 PM
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5. Bush, "Exxon, Haliburton and Shell have all told me that a pullout date is a non-starter." nt
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eringer Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 12:28 PM
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7. Price of Gas ($3.00 gallon with no deadlines--$1.00 gallon with deadlines)
Edited on Sat Apr-14-07 12:29 PM by eringer
You bet the oil mongers don't want any deadlines.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 12:39 PM
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10. ..
:boring:
rocknation
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joldnir Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 01:22 PM
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11. I feel a set up coming
Both shrub and the evil one are screaming today that it is us that is going to cause a defeat for us with serious problems heading our way. I have a sick feeling that we are being set up before the next elections. When we finally get the troops home from fighting this illegal war, some sort of American interest will be hit hard. In fact, I feel that they will allow it to happen and do nothing what so ever to try and stop it.

This mis-administration do not care about people, or who they harm. After all, they are just using the lives of our brave young men and women of the armed forces solely for political purposes. Why not let there be more deaths of innocent americans?

Once this happens, they and the rw shrill will be plastered all over the tv and radio stating that they warned the American public of this and that is why it is our fault that it happened. Then they can point to these speeches and their fighting us being adults and trying to do the right thing. Lost in the dust will be their hand in the events (even if it is to do nothing to stop it).

I hope that I am truly wrong. But, I cannot put anything past the rw hate machine.
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 04:42 PM
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12. Standard operating procedure
For Bush. He lacks the ability to accept responsibility for his own decisions and actions, and is seeking to run out the clock, and pass the mess onto the next president.

The war was lost the minute America invaded. It was lost because it lacked legitimacy in the first place. Nothing can change that fact. Not one life, not one hundred thousand lives, not one million lives.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 06:37 PM
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13. Dems Say They'll Get Their Way on Iraq
Source: Associated Press

Dems Say They'll Get Their Way on Iraq


Saturday April 14, 2007 10:46 PM

AP Photo NENH102

By ANNE FLAHERTY

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Democrats know they might lose this month's showdown with President Bush on legislation to pull troops out of Iraq. But with 2008 elections in mind, majority Democrats says it is only a matter of time before they will get their way.

Senior Democrats are calculating that if they keep the pressure on, eventually more Republicans will jump ship and challenge the president - or lose their seats to Democratic contenders.

``It's at least my belief that they are going to have to break because they're going to look extinction, some of them, in the eye,'' said Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., of his Republican colleagues.

Added Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.: ``We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.''

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6558153,00.html
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 06:37 PM
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14. Kick.... give 'em hell Harry.... it's what they've earned, it's
what they need to get right... as if that were a possibility.





"The first principles of things will never be adequately known. Science is an open ended
endeavor, it can never be closed. We do science without knowing the first principles.
It does in fact not start from first principles, nor from the end principles, but
from the middle. We not only change theories, but also the concepts and entities
themselves, and what questions to ask. The foundations of science must be continuously
examined and modified; it will always be full of mysteries and surprises."
(A.O. Barut, Foundation of Physics 24(11), Nov. 1994, p.1571)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 06:37 PM
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15. They're right; I predict rethugs caving any moment now to save their
own political necks.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 06:37 PM
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16. How many GOP Senate seats up for election in '08
And how many of them can we realistically get?

:headbang:
rocknation
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 06:37 PM
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19. I've looked but haven't found that info, no doubt looking in the wrong
place. It must be out there somewhere.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 06:37 PM
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23. Here:
http://www.dscc.org/2008races/

It is 20 R vs 12 D. It could actually be a slaughter. Obviously there are still hopeless cases in those red states, but not nearly as many as there used to be.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 06:37 PM
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17. Added Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.:
Edited on Sat Apr-14-07 06:10 PM by cyberpj
``We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.''

Not a very intelligent sound byte to give them Harry.

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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 06:37 PM
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18. Dems need to give up any and all pork then send the bill with only the timelines.
THAT's the way to challenge Boy Bush in the public eyes.

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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 06:37 PM
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20. A Lieberman Proof Senate in 2008. nt
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 06:37 PM
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21. I'd rather pick up the troops and bring them home
and lose senate seats than pick up senate seats and leave our troops there. But that is just me.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:53 PM
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27. It's NOT just you - not by a long shot.
See, those who advocate more innocent people and soldiers dying - and let's be clear, encouraging a drawn-out process is advocating this - can't see that if the Dems won't stand up now, there's no assurance they will in 2008.

The powder being stored is dry enough to choke an elephant, yet the Dems are hesitant to light the wick.

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Sukie1941 Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 06:37 PM
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22. About the Pork
Some of the "pork" that Bush says is a waste in the bill he plans to veto if/when he gets it happens to go to keeping open fifteen fairly new or remodeled libraries here in Jackson County, Oregon.

Several counties in Southern Oregon have closed libraries, are cutting sheriff staff and county employee staff because we no longer get federal timber receipts.

The local joke is that our library is now Barnes and Noble and the book shelves at Goodwill and Salvation Army.

What is that saying about when the libraries are closed, so goes democracy?
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 07:06 PM
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25. In Coos County
luckily, our libraries are still open, but our county jail had to release almost half of the prisoners due to a severe reduction in guards, in the sheriff's dept and even police officers.

Senator Wyden, along w/Rep. DeFazio put that "pork" in the bill to save our county from going bankrupt.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:49 PM
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26. What pressure? You mean the "we'll give him the cash anyway" kind?
I see no pressure. A few prods, maybe.

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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 06:42 PM
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24. Nobody cares how many days it's been!
Why don't they give up that "it's been 68 days..." crap. Nobody cares. It's an obvious attempt at manipulation. As if people across the country have calendars and are marking off days. Nope. They just want the STUPID, POINTLESS, MURDEROUS war el pretzeldente got them into to end.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 05:55 AM
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28. How can anyone take anything
this monkeyboy says with any degree of seriousness?

I cringe every time the term "President" is used in conjunction with monkeyboy's name.

I know I'm being truculent, but that's the way it is.
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