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BushOut06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 07:28 AM Original message |
Pope angers Jews, Liberals with Rite |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. Well, he's right about this part: |
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churchofreality (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
138. Religion = Kooks |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
2. Angers Liberals????? |
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merwin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 07:42 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. It does talk about liberal minded catholics. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 07:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I would think that "Liberal-minded Catholics" have a lot more to worry about than this. |
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merwin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 07:54 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. People can be angry at more than one thing at a time. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 08:02 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I totally disagree with the "angry" bit over this. |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
21. For those who worked very hard on the Vatican II reforms, |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #5 |
38. Not to mention his agents |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 05:12 AM Response to Reply #38 |
83. Tired of it - |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #83 |
110. There are Catholic priests who have not done such things |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 04:40 AM Response to Reply #83 |
127. You're right, but that isn't the problem |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #38 |
111. High school teachers, too |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #5 |
96. While Benedict has not often criticized Bush... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 04:42 AM Response to Reply #96 |
128. Leave out the "conversion of the Jews" part, and there's a lot to be said for the Latin Mass |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #128 |
141. By far, the birth control position has damaged the Church the most |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
107. No Pope does that |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
27. Vatican 2 was considered to be a liberal device, in that one of the things |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
60. liberal catholics are right to be concerned, and I don't think |
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Branjor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
4. I am surprised |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 07:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Are protestant marriages still condemned by this pope? |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 08:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. There's an interesting question. |
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Branjor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Yes, billions are living in "sin" |
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ClassWarfare2008 (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
39. The Catholic church officially considers all other churches as "heretics" |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
44. The Catholic Church is interested in Catholics |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #12 |
90. Actually, the sacrament of Catholic marriage doesn't require a priest. It does require witnesses |
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DemSoccerMom (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #8 |
23. I don't know if they're "condemned," but |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
45. I think that if you asked a Canon lawyer you'd find that |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #45 |
65. A Catholic who marries in another church is not excommunicated |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 07:48 AM Response to Reply #45 |
87. What about just erasing the concept of "illegitimate children?" -nt |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
118. Not to mention counter-productive if your aim is to invite |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 06:02 AM Response to Reply #8 |
85. No. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 08:28 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Older forms of Protestant prayer books contained prayers for the |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #4 |
25. Perhaps Romans 11. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
42. Wow. Waffle much, Paul? n/t |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #4 |
135. I think that it has something to do with the history of the Church. |
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semillama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
140. Perhaps the Mass wording predates them |
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C_eh_N_eh_D_eh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
7. Who's surprised by this? |
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Shipwack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #7 |
22. I really don't think this was in their plan... |
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lanlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
10. This pope is so irrelevant |
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Sal Minella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. I'm never-was-Catholic, and I miss Pope John XXIII. |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 03:38 AM Response to Reply #10 |
126. Agreed |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
13. When are they gonna get a new pope? |
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shenmue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
14. Sure, the vast majority of people will have no idea what they're saying... |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. "The Mass could look like a Catholic amateur hour" |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #14 |
31. It's all fluff and appearance over substance... |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
15. I suspect this Pope associates the Latin Mass with a |
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CatholicEdHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 09:39 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Probably true, he has encouraged more latin phrases in the current mass |
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BearSquirrel2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
37. The beauty of Latin was ... |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 06:10 AM Response to Reply #37 |
86. Anyone who can read can understand the Latin Mass. |
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pschoeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #86 |
112. I think vernacular readings were allowed about 1920's |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
18. I fail to see what would anger either Jews or Liberals. |
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BushOut06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:33 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. It's the idea of singling out Jews for conversion |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Point of inquiry |
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BushOut06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 07:06 PM Response to Reply #34 |
63. I am neither |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #63 |
102. It doesn't. I was raised as a Catholic and |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Do you remember the Good Friday prayer for conversion of the Jews? |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
61. You know, I don't but I don't question your memory. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
69. Here's the problem: It was only during Vatican II and after a lot of work by |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:55 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. Good point. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #74 |
98. It's a point of contention in the Jewish community, whether Jews are |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
20. Tempest in a Teapot |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #20 |
28. That's the way I read it, Solo |
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spirit of wine (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #20 |
33. god is not GREAT |
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pschoeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #20 |
94. Because all versions of the Tridentine Mass are bigotted |
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Peregrine Took (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
29. I read that he wants a smaller, more cohesive church and isn't as interested |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
32. OMG. A former Hitler Youth member is anti-semitic |
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hollowdweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. My Thoughts Exactly. Look at the pope's history. Not a surprise at all |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #32 |
50. The Latin Mass will use the 1962 Missal, which does NOT contain the prayer |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. uhm not really |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:49 PM Response to Reply #59 |
73. The members of the White Rose Society were executed by the Nazis. |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 09:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. I mentioned this elsewhere here |
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pschoeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #50 |
95. The 1962 Missal does contain the Good Friday prayer |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #95 |
100. The language may have changed, but the subtext is still there. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
35. it would be nothing -- nothing to eleminate the prayer for conversion. |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
36. The devil wears Prada |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
40. LISTEN UP: the media is CREATING a "scandal." All the pope is doing is |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Unless one believes that the Latin Mass is inherently elitist. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. If Latin is "elitist" so are Hebrew and Arabic, which are the languages |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Neither Arabic nor Hebrew is a dead language. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Latin is still the official language of the Catholic Church and spoken by |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Hence the charge of elitism. |
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Malidictus Maximus (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #52 |
67. The beauty of Latin |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #67 |
132. I was raised Catholic, and I miss the Latin mass for that reason. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #52 |
109. Everyone should learn latin. |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #109 |
116. and that is the very reason I want to learn Latin... |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #48 |
71. I think you have your timing and attributed motivation wrong. |
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pschoeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #40 |
101. The 1962 Missal does contain the Good Friday prayer for conversion |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
46. My 84-year-old parents grew up with the |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Might as well restore another tradition: Have the priest say Mass with his back to the congregation |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. That is part of the Traditional Latin Mass. The priest and the people face God |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #55 |
88. Brings back memories of childhood! |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. Amen to that. nt |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. I think people who are posting here who aren't Catholic are |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #62 |
72. I declare! Whatever gave those people the notion that they |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 11:52 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. I had a first communion celebration long ago. It was |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:10 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Gad!!! |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #79 |
91. Oh, I'm not trying to paint a rosy picture of |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #91 |
133. Hah, yes... catechism. |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #79 |
115. I told father that I beat my brother over the head with my barbie doll |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #115 |
137. Some of the parent volunteers who |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
51. This man will do so much damage to the RCC in the short time |
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Venus Dog (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
54. We are watching conservatives DE-VOLVE right before our eyes |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Your ignorance of Catholicism is impressive. nt |
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Venus Dog (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Well, that really put me in MY place! |
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pschoeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #56 |
104. Since your post #40 is blatantly incorrect and ignorant |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #54 |
121. And NOBODY expects the holy INquisition. |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
64. Which Jews??? Which liberal-minded Catholics? |
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BushOut06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #64 |
76. They quoted the Anti-Defamation League and the Simon Weisenthal Center |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 05:49 AM Response to Reply #76 |
84. That's not in the article linked-to in the topic post. |
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BushOut06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #84 |
120. Actually, it is |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:13 AM Response to Reply #64 |
80. Don't worry about it |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
66. The lurch into irrelevancy |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. The Novus Ordo Mass can also be "done poorly". |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:15 AM Response to Reply #75 |
81. You got that right |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #81 |
131. You raise a good point |
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pschoeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #75 |
106. Actually Parishes could always say the Novus Ordo in Latin |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
70. Pope Melody I today denounced Pope Benedict XVI as a fascist pretender |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 04:54 AM Response to Reply #70 |
129. No he isn't. Both of you can be popes. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #129 |
130. He's claiming to be the Pope. I'm claiming to be a Pope. Therein is the difference |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
78. When I was a kid |
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davidthegnome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:26 AM Response to Original message |
82. Wow |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #82 |
134. Nice rant. |
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LibertyLover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
89. Although I'm no longer Catholic |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #89 |
93. It's interesting that you use the phrase "raising power" in reference to the |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #93 |
103. Face it: The Church is still angry at being minimized in European politics.. |
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LibertyLover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #93 |
105. Well, actually |
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Massachusetts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
92. Anyone seen Bernie Law? |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #92 |
97. He's hiding out in the Vatican somewhere, last I heard. |
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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
99. Pope Bush |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
108. Ah, the pope |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #108 |
113. exactly my same thought. |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
114. I'm still confused why *ANY* Catholics are 'angered' at this... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. Not really. It's quite a bit more complicated than that |
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pschoeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #114 |
119. Papal infallibility is only when he speaks ex cathedra |
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Princess Turandot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #119 |
136. Pope Pius XII, 1950 |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
122. Will someone please inform this atheist what the hell is a "Three Toothed" (Tridentine) Mass? |
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pschoeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 06:49 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. It comes from Tridentinus, which is the adjectival form for the city of Trent |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
124. the Council ot Trent was about one thing |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
125. Converting people is one of the precepts of Christianity |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
139. Latin mass: security through obfuscation |
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