Chemical Weapons in East Texas

[mbperrin]

http://www.ktre.com/Global/story.asp?S=1563239&nav=2FH5JewF
Nestled away just 12-miles south of Tyler, the town of Noonday on Highway 155, was an ideal hiding place for William Krar. He and his common law wife worked out of a storage facility.
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So when authorities showed up last April and searched Krar's storage unit in Noonday, what was found shocked everyone.

"This was a huge arsenal, absolutely a huge arsenal of military style weapons," said Britt Featherson, a U.S. Attourney.

FBI photographs of what was found in Noonday showed hundreds of bombs, machine guns and 500,000 rounds of ammunition. The inventory list of what was found is extensive, but the most startling discovery was the combination of sodium cyanide, acid and gunpowder. Mixed together it becomes a lethal chemical bomb capable of killing everyone inside a 30-thousand square foot building.

more.......

[LincolnMcGrath]

1. Domestic Terra?

Nothing to see here...........move along folks

[cthrumatrix]

2. should be headlines in major media...texas more of a risk than iraq

texas it appears was the "immanent danger"

[tom_paine]

11. No way. Few stories that make the Imperial Family look bad appear

on Corporate TV Pravda.

Period.

Just where do you think you are living...the Free World?

[phillybri]

3. My next paycheck says we'll never hear about his on the news...

...Since this happened in W's backyard and involved whites and not Arabs...

[celestia671]

21. And where's Eric Rudolph lately?

I noticed there's been no mention of him in a few months!

[MikeOtown]

4. I posted this story back on 12/5

From: "mikeotown" <mwasson@c...>
Date: Fri Dec 5, 2003 7:54 pm
Subject: Chemical weapon found

in Texas...

Man pleads guilty in chemical-weapon case

A 62-year-old Tyler man pleaded guilty Thursday to possessing a
dangerous chemical weapon after investigators found the components
for making lethal cyanide gas at a storage facility he rented.

William Krar was charged with possessing sodium cyanide.
Investigators also found strong acids that form cyanide gas when
mixed with sodium cyanide, the U.S. attorney's office said.

Krar's co-defendant, Judith Bruey, 54, pleaded guilty to conspiracy
to possess illegal weapons.

Prosecutors said they found a large quantity of sodium cyanide and
hydrochloric, nitric and acetic acids in the storage room Krar
shared with Bruey. Investigators also found numerous illegal
firearms, instructions for using sodium cyanide to make a chemical
weapon and literature depicting white supremacist and militant
beliefs, the Tyler Morning Telegraph reported Friday.

Investigators found the chemicals and other materials in April while
investigating Krar on an unrelated incident.

Krar faces nine to 11 years in prison and a $250,000 fine. Bruey
faces a maximum of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/news/state/7270212.htm

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CentralFLforClark2004/message/273

[mbperrin]

5. I saw it on CBS this morning - isn't this amazing

that the so called media just ignore something like this while covering the "almanac alert" like it's really something?

[PaDUer]

19. Gee....

wonder if they dine w/ the * when they're home since they're about the same ages!

[stevedeshazer]

6. And for every nut like this guy

There are 1,000 more. He just got caught.

He had more stuff than Saddam, apparently. Perhaps, since Posse Comitatus no longer seems to apply, we should invade East Texas? Or is that too close to the "Western" White House?

[Magleetis]

7. So whats the big deal?

just a good citizen exercising his 2nd amendment right. <SO>

[Bandit]

12. Of course ~ They just wanted to be able to protect their home from burgler

They need to protect themselves don't they? :crazy: America gotta love it.

[Virginian]

8. This happened last April and is breaking news today?

I guess a lot of news will break today to hide some other story.
Which other story is being buried?

[DoNotRefill]

9. Ummmm....hate to point this out....

but just about EVERY homeowner has the components to manufacture at least one chemical weapon in their cleaning supply/laundry detergent cupboard.

That's why, if you read the lables on some cleaning products, you'll notice they say "do not combine this with X", another common household cleanser. Doing so will release poison gas, the type of which was widespreadly used during WWI in the trenches. Mix a gallon of each in a bucket, and it'll kill everybody in the house.

Periodically, people who don't read labels will end up accidentally killing themselves by mixing the wrong two ingredients. Apparently the combination is really good on stubborn cleansing problems, but it'll kill you before you finish. ;-)

I'd hate to see the press release if the Government raided my fridge...some of the stuff in the back that's gone bad might well qualify as a "biological weapons program"...and those hypothetical 4 month old spagetti leftovers would probably be called "WMD culture material and production facilities." Of course, the only danger it poses realistically is if I accidentally eat something that's spoiled...

Reminds me of a case where some guy left grapes in his hydrator and they went bad....ATF wanted to bust him for moonshining... ;-)

[htuttle]

10. I just checked around my own house...

...and I failed to find anything like hundreds of bombs, 500,000 rounds of ammunition, automatic weapons or sodium cyanide, acid and gunpowder.

I'm pretty sure most of us would come up empty looking for those things in their own houses...

:eyes:

[amazona]

14. true but...

...reading over this list of seized items, are we sure that these people aren't involved more in high stakes drug manufacturing and weapons dealing than manufacturing chemical weapons? Either way, they should be locked up for a long time but some of those chemicals are a little iffy. I thought "acetic acid" was generally known as vinegar when it's found on the kitchen table?

If these people were manufacturing bombs, what was their cause and who were they supplying? I would like to know more about what their target was. If they're just mumbling, yeah right, we were manufacturing chemical weapons to protect a higher-up in the drugs/weapons industry...well...that's not too good.

I just can't tell what's going on here.

I think we're all in agreement that the media fell down on the job and is not giving enough information. But if it's drug related rather than terror related, the media may perceive that it isn't really news -- big drug manufacturing seizures happen with tedious regularity and seem to do nothing to stem the flow of drugs and weapons?

[DoNotRefill]

17. How about bleach?

Got a gallon container of Clorox in your laundry room?

That's half of a WMD right there, and odds are excellent that the other half is in your house, too.

How about pipe? Think not? Check your plumbing. That's one of the main components of pipe bombs.

What about nails, brads, or tacks? In your hardware kit in case you want to hang a picture or something, maybe? That's stuff "designed to produce shrapnel and cause human fatalities."

Do you have plants? If so, what about chemical plant food? That (coupled with fuel oils found in virtually EVERY car) is what was used to blow up the OKC Federal building.

Now we get to the rest of your car. Got gas in it? How about glass containers in the house? Then you've got everything necessary to make molotov cocktails. 10 gallons of gas, coupled with 20 glass bottles and a t-shirt, equals 20 bombs. Got a magnesium-based transmission (many are)? That's useful for making thermite, which can make even concrete burn.

Get the point? Didn't you ever read FMs as a kid?

[Malvina Reynolds]

13. So, that's where the WMD's are;

is Crawford in East Texas?

[trapper914]

15. Crawford=Central Texas

eom

[proud patriot]

16. Too Outraged over the media ignoring this story

to say anything :grr:

[kainah]

18. at least it finally seems to be gaining some traction

It's been very well covered on the Orcinus blog: http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/

Edited to add this link to google news search: http://news.google.com/news?q=krar&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&sa=G&edition=us&scoring=d

Well, at least it's appearing in the foreign press more! Otherwise, NYTimes & CSM in December along with the Austin Chronicle. If only the Krar and his pals had been targeting Michael Jackson -- then we might have had a REAL story!

[schultzee]

20. Media won't cover home grown fundi hate group terrorists

because most of them vote republican.