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whopis01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 08:59 AM Original message |
Edwards: Americans should sacrifice their SUVs |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
1. Keep SUVs under CAFE; otherwise, the concern is passenger miles per gallon. |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 09:19 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Yeah, Beause There Are No Alternatives To SUV's But Soda Cans. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 09:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. My thought exactly. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 09:53 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. You know, it's this kind of snarky bullshit that keeps the environmental movement in the mud. |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:16 AM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Okie Dokie |
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Catch22Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
74. Not really impressed |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 12:24 AM Response to Reply #74 |
108. The Point Is That There... |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Minivans do though. And better in most ways than SUVs. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Agreed. Minivans are superior to SUVs in many ways. |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #6 |
23. Besides, they usually use the lower, less expensive grade of gasoline. |
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NoGOPZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
32. I've had both |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 07:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
91. I speed past SUVS in knee deep snow in my 95 Subaru Legacy wagon because I |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #91 |
101. My old Subaru could get through anything, too. I miss that |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 06:34 AM Response to Reply #101 |
114. We're on our third Audi Quattro now... |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
50. SUVs should be considered the TRUCKS they are---they should not be allowed on lanes, parkways |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. ? Not sure I understand. You want them to be treated as 18-wheelers? |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. I agree with the CAFE standards but am also saying that people get "passes" with SUVs |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 06:48 PM Response to Reply #65 |
87. Seriously? A pickup cannot go in the parkways? I suddenly agree with you. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #65 |
136. um, the restrictions on the Merritt are for commercial vehicles |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
68. There have been 'families' a lot longer than there have been SUVs - and how many SUV drivers... |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #68 |
88. We all have different experiences. I don't know any SUV drivers who don't have families. |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #88 |
96. Seriously? Most of my friends with SUV's don't have kids |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
99. And raise those CAFE standards! |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-01-07 08:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
145. This whole lifestyle of carting soccer teams around |
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beberocks (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
2. Yes! Edwards has my vote! |
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rmgarrette64 (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
47. He doesn't have mine |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-31-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
140. Same here |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
5. I'd gladly give mine up |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Any Minivan will fit your double bass. Most station wagons too! (NT) |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:02 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Most station wagons (e.g., Subaru Legacy) have frustratingly small cargo areas. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #7 |
22. Shit, my 97 Civic hatchback will take a bass |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #22 |
38. Maybe with the neck and headstock bouncing off the windshield |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:38 AM Response to Reply #7 |
29. Mini vans ans station wagons aren't exactly economy class |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #29 |
51. Some are, some aren't. (NT) |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
66. Really! I mean, no one played or transported double basses until SUVs were created |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. No, I imagine they were put in the back of pickup trucks |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-01-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #66 |
153. Vans (not Mini, but full vans) are just as bad with gas as SUVs |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
98. I used to carry my double bass in a VW bug... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
102. My VW has an amazingly big trunk. It's really remarkable how |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
107. You could try a car rack |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
8. I currently support Edwards, but I call hypocrisy on this. |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Have to agree... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-01-07 08:04 AM Response to Reply #9 |
146. Well, that too |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Well, okay, but... |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:11 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. The issue is these little cars are not designed to be driven safely for tall or large people. |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #18 |
34. re: SUV safety |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:18 AM Response to Reply #18 |
46. Funny. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
52. Bullshit. Patent, irredeemable bullshit. |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
128. I have a coworker who is 5'10" and about 350 lbs |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #17 |
33. Not even that would make it safer for the small cars |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. I agree. Good point. |
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MissMillie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
35. not all SUVs are gas hogs |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #35 |
53. (I hate to break this to you, but your Scion isn't a real SUV... |
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MissMillie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. interestingly enough |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 06:42 AM Response to Reply #58 |
116. That will likely change of SUVs are ever taxed differently |
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Zavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #8 |
44. Agreed. I drive an SUV and if I were inclined to give it up, |
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mac56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
48. "Larry Craig, anyone?" |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #48 |
92. hypocrisy |
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mac56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #92 |
100. And you're really equating the two of them?! |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 05:49 AM Response to Reply #100 |
112. it's all hypocrisy. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
83. I would say. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
103. There's a lot of variety in SUVs, too. |
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MUSTANG_2004 (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 09:38 AM Response to Reply #8 |
123. Agree - many reasons for owning SUV's |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
137. it's worth noting... |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
12. Good luck with that, Edwards. |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #12 |
36. The damage has already been done by building the monstrosity. |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
62. Aw, come ON! |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #62 |
82. Well, his house is pretty stupid |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #62 |
86. Baloney! |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. man, he had to have done a bit of clear cutting |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. That's a lot of habitat destroyed. For horse riding? |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #94 |
132. You all just nominated yourselves as guests on Bill O'Lielly's Fox Noise show. |
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Vilis Veritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
14. I gave up my Silverado for a Jetta TDI... |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
15. Beware of how the MSM is spinning this! |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Ah, Good Catch |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. For the record, my car gets 48 mpg |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #15 |
27. You are right, the AP is spinning this story. |
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NJCher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 02:22 AM Response to Reply #27 |
110. Who's on the Board at AP |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
69. Impressive how DUe'rs jump to the tune |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #69 |
84. I don't have an SUV. I am not planning to get an SUV any time soon. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-01-07 08:11 AM Response to Reply #69 |
147. Me, either Depakid |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 06:44 AM Response to Reply #15 |
118. I assumed the original story was a grotesque oversimplification |
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GTurck (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
16. S U V's |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #16 |
28. These vehicles already exist |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
133. I was one of six kids and my dad drove an Impala |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
24. did he issue this statement from his mansion? |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
25. i'll call detroit, and ask them to fix me up |
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penguin7 (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
26. Sell the SUV; Build 28,000 Square foot house instead |
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Squatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #26 |
45. ... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-01-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
154. Who needs to go anywhere when you have it all there? |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
30. Hey Johnny, I can't just walk away from an older SUV and start |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
31. uhhh...no. nt. |
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Felix Mala (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
39. "Sacrifice" a lightning rod for right-wing radio for three hours or more today... |
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Az_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
40. I'll gladly sacrifice my mini-SUV when hybrids become affordable. |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
41. Okay, first really stupid thing I've heard from Edwards. |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #41 |
124. There are about 4-6 SUV's parked at Edward's mansion. Saw an aerial view... |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
42. Then what would 90% of the guys who own them do |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
57. Buy giant Trucks instead (n/t) |
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MissMillie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
61. good one |
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greatauntoftriplets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
43. So what does Edwards' entourage drive? |
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OldTymeDem (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #43 |
49. What are YOU going to give up Johnny? |
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greatauntoftriplets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. Huh? I never use hairspray....yucky stuff. |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #43 |
59. maybe he'll trade in the pres SUVs for armored Priuses & Civic hybrids |
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greatauntoftriplets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. And fly on regularly scheduled flights.... |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
54. SUVs are a cancer on the american roadway. |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
55. It can be done |
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ramapo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
63. Good for him |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
67. is he going to buy me a new vehicle? n/t |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
70. Edwards in Iowa with what appears to be a Cadillac SRX, which gets 15 mpg. |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Wow. |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #70 |
78. Edwards: Do as I say, not as I do? |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #70 |
105. Holy Cow!! What are those red |
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arikara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #70 |
127. That is one grossly awful looking place |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-01-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #70 |
152. Well, I Live In Florida & My House Is Only 1400 Sq. Ft. And MY Electric |
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MODemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
71. When Edwards conserves on energy, I'll take his advice |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
75. Hmmm...Perhaps "Sacrifice" is not one of those things Edwards should ask for... |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
76. Maybe all of you should read the article to see what he actually said |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. ??????? |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Oh- I'm getting threads mixed up |
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seasat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
77. Edwards voted to exempt pickups and SUVs from increased CAFE standards in '02. |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
80. A great idea, but they will never give them up this is the ME, ME, ME, society. |
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DrunkenMaster (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
85. delete |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
89. The responses on this thread are amusing and sad at the same time |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. I would have to say that most of us agree with you |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Agreed |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 10:48 PM Response to Reply #89 |
106. It's all well and good. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-01-07 08:15 AM Response to Reply #89 |
148. Yeah, the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of the people who |
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Inspired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
97. I already sacrificed mine. I find them offensive. n/t |
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nickinSTL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
104. here's my view... |
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sanskritwarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
109. You first John |
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NJCher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 02:47 AM Response to Reply #109 |
111. he needs to get rid of that house and rephrase his request |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 06:26 AM Response to Original message |
113. Perhaps Democratic candidates could point out all the wasted fuel by Bush, AF1 and his entourage |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 06:39 AM Response to Original message |
115. Edwards has no credibility on sacrifice - |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 06:43 AM Response to Original message |
117. Why does Edwards say stuff like this? You know there must |
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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 08:58 AM Response to Reply #117 |
122. Exactly wouldn't surprise me if... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 07:21 AM Response to Original message |
119. He of the $400 haircut can't afford to make these statements |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #119 |
126. He was speaking of U.S. military small arms, I think... |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
120. Carbon tax!! |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 08:43 AM Response to Reply #120 |
121. As long as it is not a straight tax. |
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MUSTANG_2004 (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #121 |
125. Electricity rationing |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #121 |
135. Tax all carbon emissions. |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
129. In a perfect world, he'd have a point. But this isn't going to get him elected. |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
130. I don't have an SUV. Can I sacrifice somebody else's??? |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-31-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #130 |
142. I'll get the torches |
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TexasBushwhacker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
131. Well, fixing tax loopholes would help |
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leaninglib (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
134. This is funny...!!! |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
138. This is going to hurt him |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-30-07 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
139. I drive a Honda CR-V. Gets an average of 27 mpg (bet city/hwy) |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-31-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. As I said to the Scion xB owner above... |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-01-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #141 |
150. You are incorrectomundo, my friend. I have a car that people THINK is an SUV... |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-01-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #150 |
151. If it's a Unit Body with independent front and rear suspension, it ain't an SUV |
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FormerOstrich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-31-07 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
143. Uummm....OK...but.... |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-01-07 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
144. Another day, another SUV roll-over accident |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-01-07 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
149. Ha! Is he TRYING to lose votes? Americans are not going to "sacrifice" their SUVs. |
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