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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 04:41 AM
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Study: Marijuana Buzz Linked to 'Runner's High'
"Study: Marijuana Buzz Linked to 'Runner's High'
Fri Jan 9, 5:10 PM ET

By Paul Simao

ATLANTA (Reuters) - The same family of chemicals that produces a buzz in marijuana smokers may be responsible for "runner's high," the euphoric feeling that some people get when they exercise, U.S. researchers say.

High levels of anandamide were found in young men who ran or cycled at a moderate rate for about an hour, according to a study made public this week by the Georgia Institute of Technology and the University of California, Irvine.

Anandamide is a cannabinoid, or lipid molecule, that is naturally produced in the body. It is known to produce sensations that are similar to those of THC, the psychoactive property in marijuana.

The study's findings, which were recently published in the journal NeuroReport, fly in the face of those who believe that the release of brain chemicals called endorphins cause the peculiar high that some runners and cyclists claim to feel...."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=571&e=7&u=/nm/health_exercise_dc

Looks like a justification to OUTLAW JOGGING!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:14 AM
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1. bush can't run anymore. he blew his knees out.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:25 PM
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25. That's Why He's Losing It (And Taking Us All With Him!)
> "bush can't run anymore. he blew his knees out."

That is too bad.
I suppose that's why he's started hitting the bottle again.
Better than starting another war at least.

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chenGOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:16 AM
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2. WTF..as both a runner and pothead I'd like to say:
Bullshit. Smoking pot and getting high off running are very different kinds of highs.

But yeah, no more excericse for you Americans. You're in too good shape as it is..;)
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Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:36 AM
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3. You're Right But Have You Ever Run While High?
I ran my best marathon in Napa CA stoned out of my head. 3:06:13 and what a fun run it was. I'm in the Middle East now and the drug laws are too severe for me to even chance getting high. The running is pretty shitty here as well as you can only run comfortably 4 months of the year.:silly:
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 08:36 AM
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6. Yer gonna have to change your name
to Mary J ; )
:smoke:
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 09:06 AM
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7. I've ridden my bike 20+ miles while high...
Hi Mary! I usually "catch one" before hopping on my bike, and you're right - I seem to have more stamina when high as opposed to when not high. The only catch is to have water on hand due to "cotton mouth."
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 09:27 AM
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9. La Cucaracha
IIRC, it is a song about Mexican soldiers who are lamenting that they have run out of marijuana to smoke.

I heard that the song written as a kind of testiment to the promotion of marijuana smoking amongst the troops by their commanders. It allowed them to march longer and in better spirits.

Sorry, too lazy to look it up right at this point.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 11:37 AM
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11. "La Cucaracha" lyrics translated

The cockroach, the cockroach,
No longer it can walk;
Because it does not have, because him lack
Marijuana that to smoke.

Already murio the cockroach,
They already take it to bury,
Between four buzzards
And a sacristan mouse.

With the beards of Carranza,
I am going to do one toquilla,
Pá to put it to it to the hat
Of its father Pancho Villa.

A baker went to mass,
Not finding that to say,
Him pidio to the pure Virgin,
Marijuana pá to smoke.

A thing gives laughter me:
Pancho Villa without shirt;
The carrancistas already go away
Because the Pancho Villa supporters come.

For sarapes, Forecastle;
Chihuahua for soldiers;
For women, Jalisco;
In order to love, toditos sides.

Other info on origin of La Cucaracha

"La Cucaracha" is the Spanish equivalent of "Yankee Doodle"--a traditional satirical tune periodically fitted out with new lyrics to meet the needs of the moment. The origins of the song are obscure, but apparently it's pretty old. Some verses I came across refer to the Moorish wars in Spain, which concluded with the conquest of the Moorish kingdom of Granada by Ferdinand and Isabella in 1492. (Obviously 1492 was a big year for Ferdinand and Isabella on a number of fronts.) Probably the song itself doesn't go back that far, but in an 1818 book, according to one source, the Mexican writer Jose Joaquin Fernandez de Lizardi claimed the song was brought to Mexico from Spain by a captain of marines.

One can find "La Cucaracha" lyrics commemorating 19th-century conflicts in both Spain and Mexico, but verse production didn't really get rocking until the Mexican revolution of 1910-1920. So many stanzas were added by partisans on all sides during this period that today, despite its Spanish origin, the song is associated mostly with Mexico.

Included among the new lyrics were the verses quoted above. Some say the jape about marijuana was directed at the dictatorial Mexican president Victoriano Huerta (ruled 1913-1914), ridiculed by his many enemies as a drunk and dope fiend who lived only for his daily weed. No doubt the four buzzards and the sexton's mouse were lampoons as well.

Some claim la cucaracha refers solely to Pancho Villa, the bandido/revolutionary general who eluded U.S. troops following a 1916 attack on an American border town, only to be assassinated in 1923. Others say the word refers solely to Villa's car or to the soldaderas, female soldiers/camp followers who provided cooking and other comforts to the various armies. These claims are undoubtedly false--the identity of the cockroach varied with the verse--but still, one shudders. If no one knows the verses to "La Cucaracha," it's probably just as well.


http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010727.html
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Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 11:30 AM
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10. Getting High Makes One Forget About The Physical And Enjoy The Moment
My old partner Ron and I used to get high in Santa Rosa CA and run in the hills of Annadel state park for hours. We would run to the park about 1 mile from our home and run for 3 hours or so in the hills.

What a farking great Sunday we would have. Then we would come home have a few beers and pass out.

Given my current situation I ask myself why did I leave him? Oh yeah I forgot he was a great runner and had a terrific ass but he was dumb as a dirt taco......

Shitfire when am I gonna find a good runner with the great ass and terrific mind....

On hold folks...:silly:
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ChewToy Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:21 PM
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13. Hey, Santa Rosa!
I'm originally from Cotati. Greetings!
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Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:42 PM
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14. Hey Sonoma County Friend
Cotati is the coolest. Just nestled in there between Petaluma and Santa Rosa. Good bars and great folks. Damn I am missing Sonoma County tonight.

I love the Middle East but I miss the accordion festival!
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:34 PM
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28. I've noticed, good runner and terrific ass tend to go together...
might help to narrow the search a bit :)

Sid
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:37 PM
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29. The Smart Ones Would Rather Dance Than Run
When you're dancing you get the synergy between the music and the exercise.
You get your whole body into it.
It does all the same good stuff as running
and a whole lot more.


Ride the Music

AndyTiedye

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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 11:42 AM
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12. Stamina, no question about it...
But are you sure it wasn't more like two miles that just felt like 20? ;)
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:31 PM
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21. my thoughts exactly...
Edited on Sat Jan-10-04 02:35 PM by Danieljay
Its amazing how a 10 minute drive would seem like hours, a 2 mile run just might seem like 20, but who would care? Personally, I came to realize some time ago that I "don't have a head for ganga" and gave it up. I enjoyed smoking occassionally but even smoking once or twice on a friday or saturday night eventually led to some series anxiety issues over a period of a couple years. I'm all for decriminalizing pot but its definitely not for everyone.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:28 PM
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26. You Should Have Water When You Ride Anyway
stoned or not.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:31 PM
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27. I know...
...I was making a joke (about cotton mouth).
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 09:09 AM
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8. Different yes but I will say that the Runner's high is better
Just one man's opinion. Runner's highs are well there is no way to really describe it, it is just fantastic. Reminds me I need to get my ass out of this chair and go for a run...........oh wait it's about 15 degrees out....ass stay where you are.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:34 PM
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22. too funny, thanks for the laugh! n/t
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 07:14 AM
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4. Thanks! I just sent that article to my son who isnt smoking dope
and just got out of rehab for other crap...hes in Seattle now and I kept telling him that his body would naturally produce opiates if he worked out..I think my middle son finally figured it out..so did my oldest, in boot camp..
good. Now maybe he will believe me because its in an article...(21 year olds think MOM knows very little...)
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Venomous_Rhetoric Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 03:00 PM
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23. The patch
my Doc gives me for pain gives me all the opiate I need for 3 days...
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:46 PM
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30. Most Non-Jocks Are Conditioned by "Phys Ed" Class to Avoid Exercise
In "Physical Education" class, many kids are taught that exercise
means pure frustration and humiliation. Is it any wonder that the
good effects escape their notice?
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 08:32 AM
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5. Arrest The Exercisers For Manufacturing Controlled Substances
This Will Be A Boon For The Prison Industrial Complex!

Think of All The Jobs Bush* Can Create!

A new meaning for the term "Drug Running"
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Logansquare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:52 PM
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15. This explains why I hate exercise AND can't get off (nt)
.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 01:17 PM
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16. This reporter needs to take some classes on brain physiology.
The reality is that it doesn't necessarily discount the endorphin theory. Endorphins may be a precursor to anandamides or vice versa. This is just a finding. One part of a very complex puzzle. It may also offer evidence as to why some people are "addicted" to excercise. As has been shown in repeated studies, cannabis doesn't produce the classic addiction of alcohol, cocaine or nicotine, but everyday users do have withdrawal symptoms. Thus, serious exercise buffs may face the same symptoms if they stop exercising.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 01:58 PM
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17. What will we tell the chirren?
:silly:

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:18 PM
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18. Given the choice between the two
I'd rather... :smoke:
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:19 PM
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19. Nike is selling drug paraphenalia!
Time to go to jail just like Tommy Chong!
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:19 PM
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20. Nike is selling drug paraphenalia!
Time to go to jail just like Tommy Chong!
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 04:52 PM
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24. Chocolate contains anandamide too
It's probably in caffeine as well. So chocolate addiction is real too, now where's my bag of Hershey's kisses!!!
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 08:03 PM
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31. And the moral is
Edited on Sat Jan-10-04 08:03 PM by LeviathanCrumbling
running should be outlawed, because shity eyed badduns may get high and rape young virgins, while they listen to their crazy devil music.
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