BREAKING NEWS: John Kerry is endorsing Barack Obama, a person close to Kerry tells AP

[maddezmom]

Source: MSNBC

Democrats' 2004 nominee to throw weight behind Illinois senator
updated 4 minutes ago
MYRTLE BEACH, S.C. - The Democrats' 2004 presidential nominee, John Kerry, is endorsing Barack Obama, a person close to Kerry says. NBC News has confirmed that report.



Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22590831/

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Associated Press

Last update: January 10, 2008 - 8:23 AM

MYRTLE BEACH, S.C. -
The Democrats' 2004 presidential nominee, John Kerry, is endorsing Barack Obama, a person close to Kerry says.

http://www.startribune.com/nation/13674341.html

MSNBC reporting confirmed with Obama's campaign that John Kerry will apear with Obama in SC to announce his endorsement.

[YvonneCa]

1. GREAT news...

...for Obama. Senator Kerry is a wise man. :patriot:

[Hawaii Hiker]

23. And also today, I think Obama is supposed to pick up the endorsement

from the culinary union in Nevada, which has like 60,000 members...

:woohoo: :woohoo:

[ursi]

25. the culinary union endorsement was yesterday

[tavalon]

140. Kerry, you abe done fine work in the Senate and that is where you shouls live out your governing day

As far as endorsements, STFU. The only appropriate candidate you even had a bit of a right to endorse, not that your endorsement would mean jack shit given what you did in ohio on that morning you conceded when your partner begged you not to. But n, you didn't listen then and you need to stfu now.

[karynnj]

152. Kerry owed Edwards nothing and the Edwards not conceding

nonsense holds no water - Edwards said nothing about election irregularities in all of 2005 - when he was out speaking on other things. The Kerrys both did. You forget that Kerry gave Edwards an honor - and Edwards repayed him by refusing to use the campaign slogan.

Kerry had the right to endorse ANYONE. Given the wonderful speech he made - that is 180 degrees away from the anger that Edwards projects constantly, I hope Kerry continues to speak as a very senior Senator and statesman for years to come. His contributions to the country - even on what Edwards" calls his issues - already exceed Edwards' own contributions. No one forces anyone to listen.

[KathieG]

2. Just saw it on MSNBC...this will probably finish off the Edwards campaign

[lynnertic]

3. ouch, yes you're right.

except that Edwards shouldn't have an apostrophe in it.
:hi:

[KathieG]

11. Thanks...I edited. Sometimes my fingers move faster than my brain!

:hi:

[peabody71]

196. BECAUSE HE HIMSELF LOST TO A STOLEN ELECTION!

Free speech is a bitch, ain't it.

[Benhurst]

4. Yes, Clinton and Edwards should both drop out now. With Kerry's endorsement

Obama will sweep through South Carolina like General William Tecumseh Sherman.

[AP]

6. Just like Kerry swept through SC...

[karynnj]

153. The one state Edwards won before Kerry had the nomination

NC was later. Kerry DID sweep through the primaries last time. It was NEVER in doubt from late January on.

[tsuki]

57. Yep, that makes sense. Then the corporate media would have

a field day swiftboating Obama. Only thing that has kept them from smearing Obama is they are afraid that Edwards will pick up the surge.

Obama will approach the swiftboating as Kerry did. He won't scrap. And I am not ready for President Huckabee.

[stevietheman]

118. I disagree that Obama isn't a scrapper

Obama has proved to be *very* adept at answering attacks.

I'm an Edwards supporter, but this endorsement definitely pushes me more towards Obama.

[niceypoo]

72. Yes, like he did in NH

Riding a white stallion

[karynnj]

154. The CW is that the negative attacks on HRC

helped her - and that was mostly Edwards.

[CottonBear]

59. Only about 1% of the voting population has voted thus far. No candidate should drop out

when the vast majority of Americans have not yet voted.

Edwards is in until the convention.

[rodriguez94]

82. TELL KERRY IS MAKING A MISTAKE~~~

http://kerry.senate.gov/contact/thankyou.cfm/

[CottonBear]

113. Kerry has every right to endorse Obama but I'm still an Edwards girl and have been since 2004! n/t

[tavalon]

133. It wasn't his first mistake and won't be his last

I have never fully forgiven him for what he did on election morn 2004. He should have given his endorsement to Edwards.

[fuzzy otter pop]

185. no way, Kerrys loosernish will rub off on obama

for allowing that spineless twit on the same stage with him

Obama knows he is twit, you can see it on his face

but his consultants told his it might take out

JRE

sure
take him out by putting a spot lite on him and letting him shine

by truly being the better man than Kerry

Obamba should have trusted his own gut and stayed away from the whole thing

insecurity is contagious

[RestoreGore]

81. Why?

[MADem]

126. Talk about knifing your pal in the back. That's pretty low, frankly.

Kerry comes off poorly amongst Edwards supporters for that, IMO. Mean-spirited. Envious, perhaps.

Certainly not too classy.

He should have waited until Edwards bailed. My opinion of the man has dropped considerably.

[PVnRT]

129. Meh...after the drama of 2004

and the stories about the friction between the two, this shouldn't come as a shock. Kerry is kind of outside the Clinton Circle, as well, so Obama is the natural choice for an endorsement.

[MADem]

132. I am going to STRONGLY defend John Edwards, now

No matter what the "Inside Baseball" pundit-assholes said, Edwards kept his mouth shut, he allowed Kerry, even though Kerry was the lousy, more ponderous, personality and speaker, to ALWAYS have the center stage, he NEVER upstaged, and even though he had to bite his lip until it bled, he didn't contradict, overstep or do ANYTHING other than salute smartly and say, "Aye, aye, Sir." It had to be excruciating for him.

And this is how my Senator repays the guy? I find it SHITTY.

As for "Outside the Clinton Circle" -- well, Old Bill endorsed JK, and JK is getting shitty to HRC because she EXPLOITED his fuckup with that "stupid troops go to Iraq" business. What should she have done, really? Baked cookies and told everyone "Awww, my putative opponent didn't MEAN that!" You gotta throw elbows in this game. For every candidate you eliminate early, that's a few million in the warchest you don't have to spend on that particular 'war front.' If it were a man tossing the same preemptive grenades, he'd be called "Sharp, great tactician, bold, savvy." A woman, though, she gets the "Bee" word.

If JK had done a little exploiting of his own in 04, he'd be the doggone incumbent. He needs to grow up, it ain't all about him. He'd better hope Obama wins, because Massachusetts will get a fine and rather vigorous legislative fucking if he doesn't, thanks to this "unnecessary" endorsement, unless our crew on the House side can do some mitigating.

I agree with you that it isn't a shock--it's just a pissy, childish and unneeded thing to do. It smacks of small, bitter envy, actually. "Let me fuck my former running mate who said some things to people about how I ran my lousy campaign, AND let me fuck that woman who wanted to run, too, and had the NERVE to exploit my fuckup--never mind how much her husband helped me before..."

Petty. Tsk, tsk.

[BrklynLiberal]

145. I wish I could recommend your post.

[MADem]

148. Why, thank you! NT

[karynnj]

157. Bill Clinton endorsed Kerry only after Kerry was the prohibitive favorite

I assume he was angrier with the Clintons when they led the demonization of Kerry/Feingold as cut and run.

[MADem]

162. Kerry was the "favorite" early, if you recall. He won IA and NH, bing bang boom.

And he DID help the guy. Way to return that favor, I guess...

No one held a gun to Kerry's head and demanded he endorse today, this day, this week, even this month. As I have said in other threads, Kerry was plainly firing for EFFECT here. He gets his old running mate right between the shoulder blades while he's weakened, and kicks HRC in the ass as she savors her first win.

He's got that "Revenge is a dish best served cold" atttitude, I guess.

He's my Senator, but I think what he did was quite petty, mean, and disappointing.

In future, I wouldn't completely dismiss and ignore a primary challenger to him, just because of this endorsement at this time, and the way he is treating his old running mate. I'm not saying I'd vote for another candidate, but I would take the time to look over their views, perhaps attend a town hall and ask a few questions, whereas previous to this I'd blow off any challenger and vote for the guy I've voted for ever since he's been in public life--my 'shipmate' as it were.

[karynnj]

156. Give me a break

1) Edwards said he ws in until the convention

2) Edwards was not Kerry's "pal". He spent 2005 - 2007, attacking Kerry - Kerry never responded in kind.

3) Kerry gave Edwards the VP slot, which Edwards should not have taken unless he were prepared to be the subordinate member of the team. Recently in the NYT, Edwards bragged about how he refused to use "help is on the way".

4) Edwards' 2004 persona and his 2008 one don't match.

All that said, Kerry says NOTHING bad about any of the candidates. It is also clear that it would be hard to picture the healing he speaks of with an Edwards or Clinton presidency - both have been too strident.

As to envious - of Edwards? Edwards did not capture the nomination in 2004 and is not likely to in 2008. I certainly don't see it as meanspirited.

[MADem]

194. Please provide a few citations, at least, to help us see your view

I refute your assertions, thusly, and I simply cannot give you that "break" you so urgently desire:

--JE did not criticize the JK campaign WHILE IT WAS UNDERWAY.

--JE did not declare that he was running until JK imploded with that "Stupid troops go to Iraq" business. JK's internal polling also had him losing to Clinton, Obama AND Edwards, as far back as 06.

--Edwards WAS the subordinate member. All of the 'pundit reports' of carping didn't come out until well after the campaign had LONG ended.

It's meanspirited because he didn't HAVE to do it. He did it more to kick Edwards and Clinton than to support Obama. I'm not the only person with this take--my whole neighborhood sees it that way, and that includes people who back all three candidates, as well as long-term Kerry supporters. It was UNNECESSARY, is the perception, and it is more about HIM than the candidate he putatively endorses.

From another post of mine on the same subject:

Kerry took his size fourteen shoe and stuck it in his mouth with that "Stupid troops get stuck in Iraq" line. That happened in OCTOBER 06: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2... /

That business stunk up the room and pretty much axed any hope--not that there was much--of his running.

Edwards ANNOUNCED in DEC 06, well AFTER that implosion, and after it was crystal clear that JK wasn't going to recover from it: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16239360 /

Less than a month later, Kerry said he wasn't running, and it was plain that a lot went into the decision: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

The sources said his decision was not motivated by national and state polling that showed him trailing Clinton, Obama and Edwards in hypothetical 2008 matchups. They noted that Kerry has nearly $13 million in the bank, which could have been used to reintroduce himself to voters. But there are real concerns that a second national candidacy could endanger Kerry's standing in his home state.

...Edwards, who was Kerry's running mate in 2004, called the Massachusetts senator a "friend." He noted that "all Americans are fortunate to have John's experience, insight and conscience in the Senate."

Obama was similarly laudatory, predicting that Kerry "will continue to serve his country with honor and distinction in the years to come."

Many Democrats had regarded Kerry's decision as a foregone conclusion because of the competitive field, his baggage from the 2004 election and the historical unwillingness of the Democratic Party to renominate a losing presidential candidate.




Stephanie Cutter, Kerry's national spokeswoman in 2004, praised the senator for the campaign he ran, but she added: "The reality is the 2008 race moved past him months ago, and catching up would have taken much more than another candidate's implosion or last-minute surge."

[fuzzy otter pop]

181. the thing is that it is sooooooooooo

obvious, people refuse to believe it,

they think

"i am not seeing this"
you voted for this guy and so you don't want to believe
he is that much of a vapid twit

listen

YES HE CAN!!!!!!!!
i voted for him but he was and still a putz

the reason he froze up when they called him a coward is that

but he did not look worried.......


his biggest fear is that he might look like a coward

he got so worried that he
failed to take any action at all because
he was afraid that doing anything
would
make him look afraid
he couldn't even fire people
he just replaced them and hid
he thought
"if i fire some one"
people will think that i am scared to be called a coward
so he let them call him one cause because
he thought it made him look unafraid
but his insincerity cost us the election
he was so busy worrying about what people thought of him
he totally lost his perspective

it was a kitty D moment
right up out of 1988

[Honeycombe8]

171. Esp. after the loss of the endorsements of those 2 unions. Edwards is a union man.

I feel his pain. Nice guy, nice family.

But I think it really was over after N.H. I know he had hopes for S.C., but that seems unlikely.

[skipos]

5. I'll believe it when I see it from him.

That would be a VERY big deal if it is true.

[maddezmom]

8. stay tuned to MSNBC@11am ET

BREAKING NEWS

updated 12 minutes ago
MYRTLE BEACH, S.C. - Barack Obama has won the presidential endorsement of Sen. John Kerry, the Democrats' 2004 nominee who lost to George W. Bush.

Kerry, a senator from Massachusetts, plans to announce his support Thursday at a rally at the College of Charleston, said a Democrat familiar with Kerry's decision. The 2004 nominee will argue that Obama can best unite the country and has the potential to create transformational change, the person said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22590831/

[eowyn_of_rohan]

7. WOW! Why would he do this to Edwards?

is there bad blood from 2004?

[bdamomma]

10. WoW, maybe Edwards told Kerry off when Kerry conceded so soon.

[Lerkfish]

19. that's possible, but there's no way we could know

[ursi]

27. bet you we NEVER see Gore endorse Clinton!

[Lerkfish]

30. how is that a reply to what I said?

:shrug:

[JDPriestly]

104. We may soon find out.

I don't think Kerry's endorsement is necessarily a very positive thing. Many of us were disgusted with how Kerry "niced" his way through his campaign, how he failed to respond adequately to the swiftboating and how he did not challenge the Ohio vote. Does Kerry's endorsement mean that he thinks Obama's "niceness" is a good thing?

I'm for Edwards to the convention. I'm volunteering for Edwards. I worked very hard for Kerry and was extremely disappointed that he failed us. I felt that if Kerry had found the courage to respond to his critics a little more forcefully, he could have won.

[BrklynLiberal]

144. What you said....ditto

[eowyn_of_rohan]

193. Perhaps he hopes to get a Cabinet position... -nt

[eowyn_of_rohan]

21. aha! That may very well be at least part of it...

They did not express animosity publically towards each other at the time, though Edwards did NOT want to concede and Kerry really betrayed his supporters and reneged on his promise to have every vote counted...

[The Backlash Cometh]

24. Seems like "conceding so soon" is a Kerry trait.

One less person I need to donate $$ to.

[LibraLiz1973]

86. TRUE

[Ricki]

54. that's what I think

But he is still a freaking turncoat. Edwards did a great job for him.

[karynnj]

159. No he didn't

Edwards told the NYT recently that he refused to use "help is on the way" as a slogan continuing to use his own "hope is on the way" He also had the weakest of the convention speeches and he was pretty mediocre vs Cheney.

[Ricki]

197. you've GOT to be kidding me!

mediocre versus Cheney, who basically runs on 2 D cell batteries? At least now i know where Obama got his "hope" jargon."

[The Wizard]

74. Kerry's getting even for

Hillary demanding an apology to the troops when Kerry told a joke and couldn't properly articulate the punch line. Kerry's trouble with the language is from too many years practicing Senate-speak.
Hillary did this to get him to drop out of the race and it worked. But maybe that's a good thing as the Kerry campaign was unable to attack the Rovian smear attacks. Bill and Hill will not let that happen again, and as Edwards says, you can't play nice with these people.
The only reaching across the aisle should be to choke the Quisling, Josef Liebermann, at least for starters. Is Obama ready to play that role?

[MADem]

128. Choke his MENTOR? I doubt it. That Senate is very collegial....

unless you're knifing your former running mate in the back, I guess.

[Freddie Stubbs]

15. Perhaps he doesn't believe that Edwards has what it takes to win and/or serve

[eowyn_of_rohan]

33. Could be. But why did he have to endorse anybody?

He could have just stayed in the background, where he belongs. It seems vindictive...

[Freddie Stubbs]

44. He is a Senator and Super Delegate to the convention

Have you criticized the other Members of Congress, Senators, Governors and DNC members who have made endorsements?

[eowyn_of_rohan]

55. No, just this one. Because he completely failed his supporters

in the last BS election. He reneged on us after promising to have every vote counted accurately, and to pursue recounts if anything like the 2000 voting problems occured, and after collecting money from us to pay for said recounts, which never materialized. That is why I think he should STFU.

[LibraLiz1973]

64. He failed us then & he continues to do so now

[eowyn_of_rohan]

175. Yeah, as this day has worn on, I have become more and more angry

and disgusted with KErry for doing this. I think of Elizabeth Edwards stumping for Kerry (and, obviously her husband, too), knowing she had cancer... I hope this backfires.

[MADem]

150. They didn't run for Prez in 04 with one of the current candidates, though

He didn't HAVE to endorse now, today, at this point, or even for a while. He could have held his horses.

He was plainly deliberate, here. It's a rather sharp slap across Edwards' face, and a less obvious kick in Clinton's ass.

It diminishes Kerry, IMO.

[Malikshah]

63. And Kerry is an expert on that I guess...

;)

[LiberalHeart]

83. Must have thought so when he chose him as his VP.

[Freddie Stubbs]

85. Perhaps he got to know him better when they were running mates

:shrug:

[Divine Discontent]

124. Hi Freddie

just saying, that clearly isn't the case, because if it is what you said, then John Kerry is a buffoon and a horrible judge of character because he chose the man to be his VP candidate.

I think that is not true of him, I believe he's got bad blood between him & Edwards because JE told JK he wanted to fight for the votes to be counted and Kerry felt, in his own reasoning for it, that it was a lost cause when it was pretty obvious to some Ohio was so set up for rigging at the precincts with all those young people standing for 6-8 hours (how many just went home is unknown) and of course the info that would have been found out later, that the vote tabulations went through RNC connected computer systems out of Tennessee or some other southern state, so, it appears he thinks that Barack honestly is a better person for the job and he clearly said Hillary or JE would be good for the job also, esp. John since he chose him as a VP running mate 4 years ago, but it's still a pretty embarrassing thing for Kerry to do, I mean, really, he should have stood behind the guy he chose in 04 or not said anything at all because his opinion will possibly hurt Obama more than the votes he gets swung his way, because a lot of people who are mad at Kerry will think Obama might just back down the way he did. I really like John Kerry, I may not agree with him here, but it's his choice, and I congratulate the Obama camp.

[karynnj]

160. JE did not tell Kerry they should fight

Edwards read the campaigns comment that evening. There is Still not a case you could prove in court that Kerry won and JE has NEVER said what the case would be.

[MADem]

149. And that calls HIS judgment into question. After all, he picked the man as HIS second, the

fellow ready to step in at a moment's notice should JK fall by the wayside....

I see this endorsement as saying way too much about Kerry, and not in a good way.

[Ricki]

198. then why would he have chosen him as running mate?

It makes Kerry look like an idiot. Again.

[JerseygirlCT]

29. I always had the feeling that was a marriage of convenience

not something born of true friendship. Which is just fine, actually.

But this endorsement doesn't surprise me.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

32. True. Most VPs are chosen for reasons other than friendship., eg.Kennedy/Johnson -nt

[JerseygirlCT]

66. Exactly. And really, they should be.

Friendship is no guarantee that the person will be the best for the job.

[tsuki]

53. I think so. When Kerry tucked tail, Edwards was angry. nt

[disndat]

107. Kerry was pissed

that Edwards chose to run for '08, perhaps for fear that Edwards would show him up if Edwards run were to be successful.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

177. Interesting thought and may well be part of it... nt

[fuzzy otter pop]

183. now your getting it, kerry is that pathetic

i know it seems hard to believe it but its true

serious, i did vote for him of course

but look at him

really look him

his is the kind of person who says

"how do look?"

and if you don't say good with in a nanosecond he is worried about all day

actually worried

thats how they got him in 04

they kicked him in his insecurity zone

with a crazy lie
no one actually believed
but then

he doubled over

people were like
"what they said is ridicules, why are you stunned in to silence?"

he was to busy thinking
and
he could not make up his mind which response was more "presidential"

he hesitated so long he looked like a fool
and then he became one

if he had reacted fast, right or wrong he looks decisive
if he was wrong to lash back

people wold have forgiven him

hey, your human, they would have said

but he just stood there like he was reading my pet goat

[XemaSab]

117. Here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/21/us/politics/21edwards.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

[eowyn_of_rohan]

178. Thanks for the link to this article. Easy to see which one has more integrity... nt

[fuzzy otter pop]

186. he is that shallow, or petty and

he could not bring himself to endorse Hillary out of shame
(she has that look, you know the one,
you know what i am talking about...
just confess i wont hurt you... much
that look)


or she turned him down
i am going to go with this one,

as the new front runner again she wants no trouble

but Kerry was desperate to take a shot at

JRE

to prove he

isn't scared of him

"John i can't believe you announced before talking to me, I though we were friends....."

no, no you didn't.....

[Rockholm]

9. Really nice slap at Edwards. Really nice.

Yawn. Waiting for Al Gore's endorsement.

[midlife_mo_Jo]

12. This could backfire with crossover Republicans and some independents

Gore and Kerry have always come across as a bit arrogant, which, of course, got a lot of spin by repugs and the media in previous election cycles. A lot of these people are leaning towards Obama.

[alcibiades_mystery]

16. Also, kerry lied about his Purple hearts

:sarcasm:

What next?

[midlife_mo_Jo]

22. Obama isn't viewed as tied to the Gore, Edwards, Kerry, Clinton, etc., etc.

Democratic establishment. He's seen as someone fresh and new.

Remember that word - CHANGE?

I'm just saying that independent and crossover repubs are voting for him, in part because he represents something "new" and "different." If he's smart, he'll take their endorsements with a big thank you, but I wouldn't want them on the campaign trail for him in the general election. I don't think those folks will bring out all those new voters who can propel him to a win.

It's about winning. Right? Political strategy matters.

[ursi]

28. well, I can tell you that Al Gore was sheduled to speak at a Lake Tahoe 10 year anniversy

of some environmental think Al Gore and Bill did during their reign and Gore told Harry Reid's office that he would not show up if Bill Clinton did ...several months later as the event drew closer ...Billbo threw a fit and called Reid's Nevada office daily until they caved in and said Ok Billbo, you speak. Gore withdrew from his event.

I will be stunned if he endorses the Clintons for a second round in the White House.

[suffragette]

76. Is this the event? Looks like Gore was there.

http://www.unr.edu/features/07-08/summit/

Here is a chronology of the events leading up to the 1997 Lake Tahoe Presidential Forum:

June 1996: Sen. Harry Reid extends an invitation to President Clinton for a First Family vacation and to discuss environmental issues concerning Lake Tahoe.
July 26, 1996: President Clinton announces he will not be coming to Tahoe for his vacation.
April 3, 1997: President Clinton tentatively agrees to come to Lake Tahoe for a summit on the environment. Event is initially planned for late spring.
May 12, 1997: Cabinet level meetings are planned, planners recommend that Vice President Gore preside over a working session on Saturday, July 26, with President Clinton concluding Sunday with an address.
June 5, 1997: White House confirms that both the president and the vice president will be coming to Tahoe for the Lake Tahoe Presidential Forum. Two-day event is scheduled a day earlier than previously announced.
June 18, 1997: First Cabinet-level workshop on water quality, hosted by Administrator Carol Browner of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency at Tallac Historic Site.
June 19, 1997: Washoe Tribe announces intention to ask the president for return of ancestral land in the Tahoe Basin so that members can renew a centuries-old tradition of spending summers on the shores of Lake Tahoe.
June 30, 1997: Second Cabinet workshop on Forest Ecosystem Management/Recreation and Tourism. Hosting the conference in Incline Village are Secretary of Interior Bruce Babbitt and Secretary of Agriculture Dan Glickman.
July 3, 1997: Presidential forum website up and running.
July 18, 1997: Summit forum locations announced. Vice President Gore at the Tallac Historic Site in South Lake Tahoe and President Clinton at the Hyatt Regency's Lakeside Lodge in Incline Village.
July 19, 1997: Third Cabinet-level workshop on Tahoe transportation, at the University of Nevada, Reno. Secretary of Transportation Rodney Slater presides, and is joined by directors of Nevada and California departments of transportation.
July 21, 1997: National Guard takes forum staffers and media on aerial tour of Tahoe.
July 23, 1997: Govs. Pete Wilson of California and Bob Miller of Nevada sign an agreement committing both states to supporting a $906.8 million package of environmental improvements at Lake Tahoe.
July 25, 1997: Vice President Al Gore arrives in Lake Tahoe. After a hike at Mount Tallac, he presides over a symposium on issues put together in three Cabinet-level workshops. Afterward, he has a closed-door meeting with Washoe Tribe elders.
July 26, 1997: President Clinton arrives in Incline Village. Vice President Gore joins him on the U.C. Davis research vessel Le Conte for a lesson in water quality. Afterward, President Clinton signs an Executive Order committing the federal government to the preservation and restoration of Lake Tahoe. Vice President Gore briefs President Clinton on the issues discussed at the vice president's symposium. A forum is held with a panel of Tahoe Basin residents and federal officials. The Washoe Tribe is granted about 400 acres of ancestral land in the Tahoe Basin. President Clinton also commits to federal spending of an additional $26 million in the Tahoe Basin over the next two years.
Source of chronology: Tahoe Daily Tribune, South Lake Tahoe, Calif.

[ieoeja]

94. That is when they were still P and VP.

I would guess the 10 year anniversary the earlier poster mentioned was the 10 year anniversary of this event. So Al did not show up in 2007 cause Bill was there.

[peoli]

13. Great news for Barack!

[Apollo11]

14. How will this help Obama?

If you are the post-baby-boom pro-change candidate, the last thing you want is to be associated with some old Washington politician who let's face it most people see as a loser.

The only times that Kerry was in the headlines since 2004 was for (a) screwing up a bad-taste joke about low-educated folks getting stuck in Iraq, plus (b) standing by making lame jokes while a college student got tasered at the back of the room for asking interesting questions in an impolite way. "It's a shame he's not available to come up here on stage and swear me in as President".

If Al Gore could not help Howard Dean in 04, I don't see how John Kerry helps Obama in 08.

[HeraldSquare212]

17. But he's a guy who got a lot of votes

He's not a superstar but a lot of people remember pulling the lever for Kerry, many passionately (even if only because of opposition to Bush). It also confirms Obama's viability - he's going to have support from the Establishment.

[opihimoimoi]

18. Kerry could very well be the KISS OF DEATH to Obama....I Hope Not..

[Island Blue]

102. Riiiiigt ...

just like he was for Jim Webb and all of the other successful candidates he worked his ass off campaigning for in 2006. :sarcasm: Nice try. :crazy:

[midlife_mo_Jo]

26. Exactly my point!

Obama is winning NEW voters - independents, repugs who hate the war, and young voters.

Kerry, Gore, et al are BAD NEWS with some of those voters. Sorry to disappoint their fans, but strategically, it's the truth.

[bagrman]

68. This was my first thought. Kerry an old Bonesman, perfect loser for Bush.

[LibDemAlways]

87. Those are good points. Kerry is yesterday's

news, and he wasn't able to beat the chimp (in other words put it out of theft range), which is a travesty. This is one endorsement that won't mean much.

[PleaseSayItAintSo]

20. I just called his senate office ...

It ain't a rumor - they confirmed it.

[JanMichael]

31. Well, there are going to be some lost votes for him over this.

nt

Kerry should have kept his mouth shut this year.

[stickernation]

42. kerry keeps calling me

seriously, john kerry calls me up for cash just about every month.

i get to tell them off next time now, great :(

[rodriguez94]

34. Kerry to Endorse Obama...has he lost his freaking mind???

Source: CNN





No link yet.

---

Make calls NOW and email him to let him know he is making a huge mistake!!!
http://kerry.senate.gov/contact/office.cfm

[MNDemNY]

35. 4 years ago.

[endarkenment]

36. why would you say that?

[Clarkansas]

37. No. Kerry recognizes that this is a two person race and

like me, doesn't want Hillary to get the nomination.
What is so hard to understand about that?

[TwilightGardener]

38. I think it shows confidence in Obama's chances. I'm happy about it.

[zanne]

39. Excuse me?

He has a right to endorse who he wants to endorse and I think he had quite a bit of input before he made his decision. I don't think a hatefest from DU is going to change his mind.

[GalleryGod]

40. Welcome back to the Fight, John!

[Bluerthanblue]

41. there are several threads on this already-

many without the opinion in the headline~

[workinclasszero]

43. Awesome news!

YAY for Obama and Kerry!!

[midlife_mo_Jo]

45. IF Obama is your candidate...

you do realize that he is getting independents and crossover republican voters who hate what Bush has done to this country? Ask yourself if these endorsements are going to help with these people!

Obama represents CHANGE to these people. Kerry is not change. Neither is Gore. And both come across as somewhat arrogant compared to candidates like Obama and Edwards (my candidate.)

While I'm an Edwards supporter, I could enthusiastically support Obama if he wins the general election. I hope he doesn't get screwed with new voters. New voters are important to his campaign! I hope Kerry and Gore (should he endorse Obama) stay off Obama's campaign trail.

[RiverStone]

61. Kerry is one of the BIG 3 - and regarding who represents change...

Obama and Edwards do - Clinton does not.

Whereas Kerry may be an endorsement from the "old guard" - Hillary the candidates is old guard.

Endorsements aside, Hillary is not change. That's the bigger picture.

[midlife_mo_Jo]

65. True. And crossover republicans aren't going to vote for her.

But if Kerry or Gore get deeply involved in Obama's campaign, I can promise you that it will dampen their enthusiasm for him. I think it could dampen enthusiasm among some independents, as well.

I'm in a heavy repub county, and I can't tell you how many people are telling me they are voting for Obama! (I'm for Edwards. haha)

[karynnj]

163. Kerry's platform in 2004 was all about change

Many of edwards' 2008 proposals are more in line with Kerry's than with his own. Kerry is the one with the decades long environmental record, Edwards had a LCV score near 60 (Kerry's lifetime score was 96).

I think Obama will continue to attract new votes, as he is new - but for some concerned about whether he has the experience and competency needed.

[edbermac]

46. About as effective as Chuck Norris endorsing Mike Huckabee.

Big deal.:boring:

[Tarc]

47. My only hope here is that Kerry's motives are pure

And that he is supporting Obama because he believes in him and his ideals. If that's true then cool, anyone is free to endorse anyone they like.

But if it is a "gotcha" aimed at sinking Edwards, then it is a rather childish and petty move.

[brentspeak]

48. Just called Kerry's D.C. office to register my disappointment with this

Told his staffer that Kerry should have waited until at least much later in the campaign to make any endorsement. Didn't Kerry consider how the millions of us 2004 Kerry/Edwards supporters would take this Edwards snub?

[LibraLiz1973]

69. I called too

[hamsterjill]

108. Exactly how I feel

This is exactly how I feel. I think Kerry should have waited.

I greatly respect John Edwards and I admire Elizabeth enormously, but I feel like the race is shortly going to come down to two candidates, being Clinton and Obama. THAT moment would have been, in my opinion, the time for Kerry to endorse someone.

Whatever Kerry's motivation was for not endorsing Edwards, the simple fact that he didn't endorse his former running mate further focuses on divides within the party.

[Araxen]

109. Kerry's way..

of telling Edwards to get out. It's a two person race and he doesn't want to see Clinton get the nod, imo

[karlrschneider]

49. If it's true, Kerry is a way bigger asshole than I previously thought.

:grr:

[veniceboy]

51. This can only help-

What it does is add legitimacy to the viability of the Obama campaign. Edwards didn't get the endorsement b/c this is a two person race (sorry but the Edwards people are just dreaming at this point).

[karlrschneider]

80. It can only help the Republicans because there is no chance Obama can win

in a general election.

[loveangelc]

116. because getting a bunch of independent and some republican support = not winning?

obama is the only nominee who can win the GE. Hillary has no chance, Independents will not vote for her and NO republicans will vote for her. edwards has no chance lets be realistic. if you think otherwise you are just being ridiculous.

[karlrschneider]

121. If you think Obama has a snowball's chance in hell of being elected president,

you're just batshit nuts. I wish it weren't the case but it is.

[loveangelc]

143. Hillary has a better chance than Obama????? Are you kidding me??

like i said, the only people who will really come out to support hillary are housewives who feel they have no voice and hillary is their voice. like i said, its just ridiculous, there are democrats who won't even vote for hillary, so how exactly is she going to win?

[karlrschneider]

161. Only in your fetid imagination did I even mention Hillary.

:eyes:

[fuzzy otter pop]

187. yep, that is it.... just be honest with yourself.......

you have always hated Kerry,
you only voted for him cause BUSH SUCKS
now you can let it out

Kerry sucks,

he always has sucked.......

he will suck any one close to him down with him
just
so he wont have to be lonely at the suck store

[Roland99]

50. Is that really a good thing? The way Kerry laid prostrate to the establishment in 2004?

Seems like this is GOOD news for Edwards!

[veniceboy]

56. Good news for Edwards? HOW????

Sorry, but most people do not make the fine distinctions that the member of this board do. It makes Edwards look like a non-factor. That's why I believe he chose Obama, not b/c of any dislike of Edwards, but simply b/c he wanted to be on the side of a winner. If Hillary wins the nomination she will lose the GE so Kerry sees no upside to endorsing her. Edwards is like endorsing Dodd at this point- sorry but it is over for him.

[demo dutch]

70. They both went to Harvard Law School! So what do you expect!

[karynnj]

165. Kerry went to Boston College

[Freddie Stubbs]

84. And how exactly is that different that what Edwards did in 2004?

:shrug:

[Roland99]

93. Edwards was pushing Kerry to respond strongly and quickly to the Swiftboat Liars.

And what did Kerry mention of his work in bringing down BCCI and the Bush family links to it?

I'd have been pounding that fact DAILY!


Kerry turned into a paper tiger.

[Freddie Stubbs]

101. Apperently he wasn't pushing very hard

[Roland99]

103. Or perhaps he was but Kerry was campaigning by committee.

That cost him dearly.

[Divine Discontent]

127. that's Kerry's fault

he admitted he didn't respond quick enough. John Edwards is far more the 'fighter' than John Kerry, who I admire almost equally. It's just Kerry is too old fashioned and believes not dropping down to a level that would dirty one's self by attacking back. That's the way he comes across - well.... against the BFEE he needed to do so to get them out of office so another couple THOUSAND soldiers didn't come back in body bags, and he didn't do it. Plain and simple. John Kerry was the top of the ticket, and he did great in the debates, but he didn't attack jr shrub as being an incompetent fool sitting in the white house destroying America, and he didn't go after the swifties sooner as being pure agents of the bush campaign who are just the typical type of losers (and he should have called them that) that stand behind a flawed and useless commander in chief that no more belonged in the white house than paris hilton, because he had a lot of people behind him when he was up 5-10 points in the summer and he could have kept them all if he'd been harsher on the idiot in the oval office.

[karynnj]

166. Kerry morphing into Michael Moore and connecting Bush to Bin Laden

would have led to a landslide - for Bush. He did mention BCCI at the University of Pennsylvania speech on terrorism and in the NYT magazine article. Edwards publicly said in 2004 that he was not an attack dog - and people in the campaign said that Edwards did not even fight the SBVT when he was asked to.

[bazoona]

120. I couldn't agree with you more. EOM

[smoogatz]

52. My my.

This is an interesting development.

[AzDar]

58. Well, THAT should finally finish Obama off.

:rofl:

[demo dutch]

60. Yeah really, who cares! Never been impressed by Kerry! He was a terrible candicate

people didn't vote for him they voted against GWB!

[debbierlus]

62. What a backstabbing thing to do to Edwards!

He thought he was the best for his VP but now endorses Obama.

Weird.

[RestoreGore]

79. Just shows Obama is also status quo n/t

[kanrok]

67. Who?

[PATRICK]

71. I think it is a sign

that the dem leaders, especially the ones frustrated by the Clinton wing approach, have seen her cause as wounded and dangerous for Dems in the fall and are moving ahead of the polls and people to boost the current alternative. Edwards would have to earn that spot but the intent I think is to shut the door on Clinton by the pros who know better and want more. It might be well more pragmatic than Gore's attempt to fight the establishment hit on Dean.

Not everyone does things just to be stupid and spiteful toward your candidate. I think there are simply greater political realities at stake. It could end up helping Edwards, somewhere down the long line, but this is to keep Clinton from reinventing a November win inevitability that many pols think has been shown not to be the case. Long before the numbers start showing, yet it is too late to stop.

You might see a gradual wave of such endorsements.

[riverwalker]

73. Great News

I remember when Hillary demanded an apology from Kerry after the "botched joke" episode and thought it was a cowardly ploy on her part. I knew then I wouldn't ever want her covering my back.
:bounce: Yes. We. Can.

[Diane R]

130. I'm glad someone else remembers that. That was the moment I saw Hillary's true colors.

I always knew that moment was about her cutting Kerry off at the knees for an '08 presidential run, and he saw it too. Sadly, it worked.

My guess is that the Clintons have a lot of people, like Kerry, with scores to settle. Well deserved, too.

I think this is wonderful news. His endorsement means a lot to me, even though I have already decided to support Obama.

[SoFlaJet]

167. me too Di

it was at that moment that I stopped liking and respecting and defending Hillary Clinton-and refuse to vote for her-unless there is no other alternative and even then I may have to think about it

[bpeale]

75. john kerry is irrelevant.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

96. .

[bpeale]

97. John Edwards is going to ride that donkey all the way to the convention

he isn't going anywhere

[Celeborn Skywalker]

141. I erased my comment.

I realized that I didn't want to put down Edwards in my response. I actually believe Edwards is the best man running as of now, it's just that I have so much admiration for Kerry that I got carried away in my comment.

[pingzing58]

77. Kerry's endorsement is not going to help Obama. I've always thought that Kerry is wimp.

[RestoreGore]

78. Big whoop

Is he angry at John Edwards for wanting to make sure that Ohio wasn''t stolen? This will hopefully give John Edwards even more resolve to stay in this.

[Politicub]

88. That's not necessarily a bad thing

The reason that Kerry won the nom in 2004, at least from my perspective, is that he had establishment credentials, and the dems weren't willing to field an upstart like Dean.

This is something that Obama needs, but it is more beneficial for Hillary to have the perception of breaking free from the politics of the past.

[Politicub]

89. That's not necessarily a bad thing

The reason that Kerry won the nom in 2004, at least from my perspective, is that he had establishment credentials, and the dems weren't willing to field an upstart like Dean.

This is something that Obama needs, but it is more beneficial for Hillary to have the perception of breaking free from the politics of the past.

[Deep13]

90. That's a good way to avoid being the anti-establishment candidate:...

...pick up a lot of governmental endorsements.

I know I'm being a little snarky, but too many of these endorsements from the disappointment Congress might not be such a good thing.

[David Zephyr]

91. Excellent news. Barack is the one!

Hooo Haaa!

[rayofreason]

92. Edwards was his VP...

... and the Clintons supported him in the primaries. In fact, I suspect that it was the Clinton machine that put the kabosh on Howard Dean, and that without Clinton support Dean would have beaten Kerry.

Now Kerry turns on them both.

Somehow I suspect that Kerry would have been better off saying nothing.

[Deep13]

111. I know it, but I have to think that Kerry believes he is doing...

...what is best for the country and that personal loyalty has to take a back seat to that. Public office is an opportunity to do some service. It must never be a reward to those who somehow deserve it. After WWII, Churchill lost the election. Many thought it was an act of ingratitude. I don't see it that way. Churchill was an excellent war P.M., but the war was over and a leadership with different talents and priorities was thought to be needed to manage the peace. Again, public need was more important than personal loyalty.

Of course, I would rather JK had endorsed my preferred candidate, but I'm not going to second guess him.

[Pierre.Suave]

95. it is Official...

http://view.exacttarget.com/?j=fe92177070630d7875&m=fefd1273716607&ls=fdff15747c660c7d73147077&l=fecd177070660c7d&s=fe2f167177630579721173&ju=fe5b16717c61037a7616


Hi Jason,


Martin Luther King said, “The time is always right to do what is right.” So I'm choosing this time to share an important decision I've made, one I believe is right for this country.

The JohnKerry.com community has been very important to me and very important to the Democratic resurgence over the last couple of years, so I wanted to let all of you know my decision before I confirm it with anyone else. I want to share with you my conviction that in a field of fine Democratic candidates, the next President of the United States can be, should be, and will be Barack Obama. Each of our candidates would make a fine President, and we are blessed with a strong field. But for this moment, at this time in our nation's history, Barack Obama is the right choice.

Please join me in supporting Barack Obama’s candidacy.

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At this particular moment, with our country faced with great challenges in our economy, in our environment, and in our foreign policy, and with our politics torn by division, Barack Obama can bring transformation to our country. With Barack, we can build a new majority of Americans from all regions who can turn the page on the politics of Karl Rove and begin a new politics, one worthy of our nation's history and promise. We can bring millions of disaffected people – young and old – to the great task of governing and making a difference, child to child, community to community.

Please click here to give what you can to Barack Obama’s campaign for President and help build this future for our country.

The moment is now, and the candidate for this moment is Barack Obama. Like him, I also lived abroad as a young man, and I share with him a healthy respect for the advantage of knowing other cultures and countries, not from a book or a briefing, but by personal experience, by gut, by instinct. He knows the issues from the deep study of a legislator, and he knows them from a life lived outside of Washington. His is the wisdom of real-world experience combined with the intellect of a man who has thought deeply about the challenges we face.

History has given us this moment. But we need to decide what to do with it. I believe, with this moment, we should make Barack Obama President of the United States.

Please join me in supporting his campaign.

Thank you,
John Kerry

[Catherine Vincent]

98. What about Edwards?

That's not right.

[Apollo11]

158. John Edwards did not live abroad as a young man

Apparently that's an important qualification to be President, at least on Planet Kerry.

[Island Blue]

99. I had not chosen a candidate ...

until now. With this, I feel confidant that President Obama (should he win the nomination and election) would listen to the wisdom and advice of Senator Kerry and, since I can't have President Kerry, that's good enough for me.

Obama '08.

[workinclasszero]

100. Listen to XM radio

POTUS 08...Kerry speaking now!!!! GO OBAMA!!!

[balantz]

105. Why didn't Kerry push for further investigation after the 2004 election?

It is obvious there should have been complete further action on that. Kerry is bought. Edwards wanted to pursue the corruption. Diebold is alive and well. Who do you trust in all of this?

[Stuckinthebush]

106. Very odd

Nothing against Obama. He's a fine candidate to endorse.

The strangeness revolves around Kerry's timing and his prior relationships with both Edwards and the Clintons.

Kerry is one of those individuals that doesn't gain much from an endorsement and there is a very small group of people (if any) who would use his endorsement as a reason for switching.

Odd.

[ooglymoogly]

115. Unless its the other way eom

[Honeycombe8]

172. This is one reason people like to run for Prez...it makes them "statesmen" of their parties later.

Kerry is sort a lower level stateman, now, under Ted Kennedy.

It adds to Kerry's esteem within the party to be courted for endorsements, and then to give one with fanfair.

These are politicians. They love to be on TV and in print, and have their names in the news.

Endorsements don't come unless they are asked for. So Obama asked for his endorsement. It's possible that Edwards and Clinton did, too...or maybe did not.

Kerry is "establishment" Dem. Party, so it adds to Obama's credibility. It is not any one endorsement that matters, necessarily, but the accumulation of endorsements. AND...Obama now gets access to Kerry's list of donors and such.

This was good for Obama. Don't know if it'll help that much, but it might, and it certainly won't hurt.

[Drunken Irishman]

110. YES! YES! YES! YES!

[ElboRuum]

112. Who should he be supporting?

[ooglymoogly]

114. F**ck John Kerry

I suspect he will be right there when Obamaa mysteriously loses the election to advise a rollover and hoist the flag of surrender even before the votes have all been crookedly counted and the exit polls don't natch the outcome.

[ShortnFiery]

119. Yeah, he's a decorated war hero, and effective Senator, but he's not HRC & he stole my shoe

:crazy:

[fuzzy otter pop]

188. NO dont do it, his hair gel will get all over you......

JRE doesnot want that

endorsement

he should send lurch a thank you card for rubbing his toxic waste on poor Obama who
no doubt
listened to a consultant
but mostly
he probably just felt sorry for Kerry

[alteredstate]

122. I was at the Obama rally

Photos to follow.

[judaspriestess]

123. here are a couple of quotes from the article that stood out to me

"Kerry loyalists, meanwhile, seethe as they watch his new aggressiveness. Stephanie Cutter, who was Mr. Kerry’s communications director, said, “A lot of what I’m seeing now, I wish I’d seen in 2004.”"

Mr. Kerry had all the gravitas Mr. Edwards was often accused of lacking, but Mr. Edwards charmed colleagues and connected with voters in a way that Mr. Kerry could only envy.


Jealousy???

[snagglepuss]

125. I think you nailed it. nt

[vanboggie]

131. Just got my email from Kerry

After filling out the contact form on his site and letting him know what a disappointment he has been on so many levels, I unsubscribed from his mailing list.

I never forgave Kerry for folding so quickly in 2004. This is why we need a fighter like John Edwards.

[MrMickeysMom]

136. Gee, you did the more honorable thing...

I just told John to fuck himself. It was easier. I should get off his damn e-mail list, too.

[Divine Discontent]

139. I wrote him

and said I respect him, but not this horrible decision, that he comes off as wishy washy, because the very man who chose to be his VP is in this race, beat Hillary in Iowa and he could have said that JE was even more the fighter now than he was in 04 and was clearly a person on a mission, but instead he backed down from something he did 4 years ago, and went celebrity this time. Maybe Kerry's wanting on Oprah? So he can say again why he didn't fight for Ohioans who stood in line for 8 hrs to vote for him... I love Kerry, but I would give him some hell if I ever saw him and say he appeared as a man out of touch with today's modern world, because the BFEE doesn't play fair and he should know that.

Maybe he's mad about what John Edwards possibly could have told him after the 04 election, who know??? Ya know? Maybe he said what I said...

[Hulk]

134. More of a detriment than an asset. Kerry's support means ZERO!!

[MrMickeysMom]

My reply to Mr. Kerry RIGHT NOW, when I got his endorsement e-mail-

Fuck you, John.

[SeattleGirl]

135. Well, after how Kerry wimped out in '04, who says Edwards would

WANT to be associated with him again?

[vanboggie]

137. Good point SeattleGirl n/t

[TexasLawyer]

138. Who among us does not love Barack?

and windsurfing?

Sorry, but Kerry's endorsement doesn't do anything for me. It's his opinion, nothing more.

[BlueStater]

142. I don't like Obama

And Kerry just jumping on a lame bandwagon to possibly take a swipe at Edwards makes me lose considerable respect for him.

[TexasLawyer]

146. I'm an Edwards supporter myself

I was just riffing on another lame Kerry endorsement-- for windsurfing, a sport which absolutely EVERYONE loves, dahling.

Who Among Us Does Not Love Windsurfing?
By KATE ZERNIKE

Published: September 5, 2004

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/05/weekinreview/05bigp.html?_r=1&fta=y&oref=slogin

[Honeycombe8]

173. Kerry wouldn't risk embarrassment of endorsing him unless he thought he had a good chance. nt

[eowyn_of_rohan]

176. I don't even know who he really is or how he got here

Maybe if I were not already an Edwards supporter, who would have been 100% behind Gore had he run, I would have paid more attention to Obama. As it is, to me he is good looking, a Democrat, and Oprah's pin-up boy. He seems like a talking head and his rhetoric is not that compelling to me.

[leftcoastie]

147. I'm sorry

I'm a little disgusted... Edwards was KERRY'S choice for runnning mate in '04.

When Kerry wuss'ed out on challenging the Ohio count, it WAS EDWARDS WHO WAS PISSED that KERRY caved in 2004. Edwards would've fought and fought hard for the win, Kerry told him not to. And that's why, boys and girls we got 4 MORE disaterous years of that smiling bastard Bush.

Trust?

[EFerrari]

151. I'm with you, coastie. I hope never to have to deal with Mr. Kerry again.

But, aside from my bad attitude, welcome to DU. :)

[leftcoastie]

164. Thanks for that,

I wish I could be more articulate here, but passion trumps that.

I did hear John Edwards on Ed Schultz and man what a gracious human being! Both my wife and I are still for Edwards and can't wait to cast our vote here in progressive, Petaluma, CA

[EFerrari]

169. I bet that's progressive and damp Pelatuma.

It's raining some here at Ocean Beach in San Francisco today. Not like last week but, we haven't really been dry since. lol

[indypaul]

155. And any politico will tell you

about endorsements. You might inherit the endorsers friends.
But, you will for sure inherit his enemies.

[laylah]

168. I have no words

to express my disappointment. I voted for John and John in '04, believing in my heart of hearts they were perfect for bringing this country back into reality. For Kerry to come out, so soon, and endorse his previous running mate's opponent saddens me. No anger here, just sadness.

[Honeycombe8]

174. But Edwards doesn't have much of a chance of winning. Should Kerry have not endorsed anyone? nt

[eowyn_of_rohan]

179. Are you a babe in the woods? It is WAY to early to dismiss his chances.

[fuzzy otter pop]

189. or does he????? stay tuned and...

someone will be along directly

to tell you what to think....

i promise....

[shayes51]

170. "I was for John Edwards before

I was against him." Kerry IS a flip-flopper after all.

[Ricki]

199. LOL

[fuzzy otter pop]

180. kiss of death

gooooooddddd night obama,


the candidate of changing sides as necessary

to look good

and stay pretty and clean
at all costs
to anyone but himself

has just endorsed you

its over

pack it in

you carry the seal of the losers approvl

q.e.d.


your done

[YvonneCa]

182. Wow...is this High School...

...here on DU?

[aaronbees]

192. high school would be too generous, IMO

More like grade school mob mentality in this thread, I think.

[YvonneCa]

201. Agreed...

...:7

[ckramer]

184. Good call, John Kerry

Obama is the right man for White House.

[truebluecollar]

190. John Kerry who?

[benny05]

191. Interesting

that a mod would post something 12 hours later that was already known.

[Algorem]

195. Senator Sherrod Brown sounds like he might endorse Edwards-

"...As for the Democratic presidential race, Brown said he is remaining neutral — at least for now.

Brown had high praise for ex-U.S. Sen. John Edwards, who is lagging behind U.S. Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton in polls.

Brown likes Edwards' "populist message," his concern about free-trade policies, and his stand against big oil and pharmaceutical companies.

"I'd like to see Edwards' message more from Obama and Clinton," he said..."

http://www4.vindy.com/content/local_regional/336478812802407.php

[Ricki]

200. Ugh.

"I'd like to see Edwards' message more from Obama and Clinton" That's inane. If Obama and Clinton steal John's message (which they have been doing to a degree) it would not be sincere. It's HIS message and if the senator likes the freaking message than he should endorse the candidate!