Obama Now Takes The Lead in Superdelegates Too

[swag]

Source: ABC News

ABC News' Karen Travers Reports: For the first time this campaign season, Barack Obama has surpassed Hillary Clinton's support among superdelegates, according to the ABC News delegate estimate.

Sen. Obama, D-Ill., picked up two superdelegates this morning giving him a new metric to tout in addition to his current commanding leads in pledged delegates, popular votes, states won, and money raised.

Rep. Donald Payne, D-N.J., switched his endorsement from Clinton to Obama and Rep. Peter DeFazio, D-Ore., endorsed Obama. DeFazio was previously uncommitted.

With these endorsements, Obama has the support of 267 superdelegates and Clinton has 265 superdelegates.



Read more: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/05/obama-now-takes.html

[AlinPA]

1. I thought it was about -6.5 after DeFazio. nt

[Botany]

2. Superdelegates don't matter

Mark Penn

[Andy823]

11. I wonder what does matter

In the Clinton camp these days? The only thing they seem to have left is getting Michigan and Florida votes for Hillary, and even then I don't think the numbers add up!

[caledesi]

16. They don't. nt

[Cha]

33. Good Answer,

caledesi! :bounce: :patriot: :kick: :party:

[smoogatz]

47. White working class West Virginians.

If you can't win there, well, buddy, the fact that you've won the nomination don't mean shit!

[cyndensco]

54. "If we counted votes the way republicans do,

HRC would be the nominee" :crazy:

[N4457S]

80. If This Goes...

...to the convention and Hillary ends up with it, we'll have race riots on live television.

And then, the Democratic party will come apart like a Chevy 350 small block throwing a rod.

And then, we'll end up with McCain and maybe another Republican after him. The damage would be so severe, people would talk about it for years. That's what happened after the Chicago riots. It took decades to repair the damage.

Where the fuck is Al Gore when we need him?

[FlaGranny]

89. Not race riots.

Just plain riots. Obama gets far more white votes than black, even though he's getting the majority of the black vote. I think most of those newly registered would be upset too.

[N4457S]

91. Here's What...

...Obama is facing in Ohio and Pennsylvania:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2a50425a-1f86-11dd-9216-000077b07658,s01=1.html?nclick_check=1

I know this is West Virginia but NE Ohio and western and central Pennsylvania are full of people just like the guy in the article.

[unkachuck]

81. exactly....

....and if the SD's don't end this by giving it to Obama in a couple of weeks, I'd say the corporatists in our Party are trying to make it impossible for our grassroots/people's candidate to win in November....

....this is bigger than just Democrat or Republican; it's corporate interest vs. people's interest....the corporatists vs. the grassroots....who's going to win?

[knixphan]

85. absolutely correct

[Cha]

31. "We'll get all of California's

Delegate Count..Winner take all ya know." mark penn :silly:

[SCantiGOP]

37. Hillary's plan

Is to get several more states in the Union. She's looking at Romania and Bulgaria, since they have have a lot of white people without college degrees.

[Ken Burch]

52. Superdelegates don't matter...elected delegates don't matter...

er...does that leave ANYBODY who'll be voting at the convention?

[Thothmes]

77. Only the boys in the smoked filled back room

[xioaping]

88. Did you read in the rules that super delegates dont matter?

[BattyDem]

3. GOBAMA!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:


I don't know which count is correct - this one or the other source that says -6.5. Either way, it's good news, so I'm celebrating in both threads, LOL!

[Cha]

35. Yeah, I'm gonna find that other thread,

too:bounce: I got home just now and there was a mailer from Obama that said "Yes We Can" all over the envelope..I took it as a Good SignB-)

[Maineman]

4. Sounds good.

[disndat]

5. Success,

How sweet it is!

[mod mom]

6. WOO HOO!

:woohoo:

[ckramer]

7. Superdelegates start to wake up to the Obamaism!

Good news to hear.

[Warren Stupidity]

8. Ooops.

Losing in pledged delegates. Losing in super delegates.

[MJJP21]

9. Wv and Kentucky

I don't think it's too late to go on the air and urge the residents of these two states to vote Barack and help put an end to the obvious. A vote for Hillary is only going to prolong the agony and threatens the needed outcome in the fall and that is a resounding democratic win.

[redqueen]

19. It's never too late to help try to make a difference... phonebanking is easy...

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/phonebankmap/

:)

[ClayZ]

10. Weeee! Up we go!

K and R

[sasquatch]

12. "AND THIS FUCKING PRIMARY IS OVER!!"

:woohoo:

[caledesi]

14. Amen! nt

[AzDar]

13. Excellent.

:applause:

[no1dolo]

15. I have been waiting for this day! n/t

[backscatter712]

17. As Howard Dean might say...

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

[redqueen]

18. Fantastic.

:)

[ckramer]

20. Questions to Obama

"Will you invade or use force against a foreign country after you become the presidnet of the U.S.?"


"If the answer is yes, under what circumstances would you do that?"


I'd like to know the answers to these two questions.

[SammyWinstonJack]

23. He'll say whatever he needs to say. Another Panderer in Chief.

Just great!

[krkaufman]

28. To be fair, the question should be posed to both candidates.

I'd like to hear McCain's response, as well.

[Bretttido]

38. I believe he's answered this basic question many times

including during debates. Just go back and take a look at the transcripts.

[FlaGranny]

90. Ummmm. He has already answered those questions. n/t

[JackDragna]

21. It's a WIPEOUT!

Obama lead huge!

Breaking News: Hillary to concede tonight!

Wait, I was only kidding. STOP YELLING AT ME!

[DWilliamsamh]

26. Give ol' Seabiscuit a break....

Or were you temporarily possessed by his spirit? LOL Remember, he can't help it... he was born with a silver spoon up his nose!

Hope fully HRC will bow out gracefully now that there is no metric at all by which she can legitimately win the nomination.

[Kajsa]

22. Good news!

Now, if we could just wrap this up
and come together as one party.

Fight McCain, not each other!

[N4457S]

29. The Truth Is...

...there isn't much difference between Hillary and McCain. Both of them know that.

The people in Ohio and Pennsylvania know it, too. They'll decide the election.

[thereismore]

59. So you're predicting McCain win. You will eat your words in Nov. nt

[N4457S]

60. If You Can Show Me...

...how Obama wins two states in the general election which he could not carry in his own primary, I'll listen.

And he has to win them. Cobbling together a few states in the upper midwest won't work. It never works.

There was an article in The Economist about this, and what did they say? Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida.

Cycle after cycle, it never changes.

[Zhade]

78. You'd better hope he can, since he's going to be the nominee.

But I can suggest that, since he won't have clinton to draw off any votes, he very well could do just fine.

[N4457S]

79. The Last Time...

...we had a nominee who couldn't win anything significant in the south, we lost our ass.

Clinton was special. He's still special. Hillary's not a southerner.

Obama will fail to carry anything significant in the south and fail to carry two out of three among Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida.

He will lose. Hillary knows it. Begala knows it. Carville knows it. They all know it.

[Zhade]

83. Believe as you wish, he's STILL going to be the nominee and you can't change that.

I'd suggest working your ass off to give him a fighting chance, or moving on.

[knixphan]

86. I second that.

[N4457S]

92. Yeah...

...that's exactly what they said when McGovern was the nominee in 1972.

[ooglymoogly]

24. OBAMEXPLOSION....kr...nt

[JackintheGreen]

25. NPR still has him down 6

http://www.npr.org/news/specials/election2008/2008-election-map.html#/primaries/

[DWilliamsamh]

27. And ABC doesn't...

[JackintheGreen]

36. Dude, wow...

just my 2 cents and an alternative, previously uncited source

[Bretttido]

39. Lots of A-Holes on DU, just click ignore on them

[DWilliamsamh]

45. I know...

I am sorry if it seemed like a slam. That wasn't my intent.

[Iggo]

30. "Obama Now Takes The Lead..."

Good. Let's get this thing overwith. McCain's been getting a free pass for too long, now.

[ObamaKerryDem]

32. Hell's yeah! :D

GOBAMA! :bounce:

Now when will Hillary take the hint?

[RiverStone]

34. great news!

Thanks for posting :hi:

[swag]

40. They keep rolling in:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-campaign10-2008may10,0,2672105.story

By Scott Martelle and Peter Nicholas, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
9:18 AM PDT, May 9, 2008

The flow of Democratic superdelegates to Sen. Barack Obama continued this morning -- including another defection by a Clinton supporter -- as both candidates turned westward to Oregon's May 20 mail-in primary, already underway.

Four new endorsements bring Obama to within a half-dozen of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's lead among superdelegates, and to within about 170 delegates of sealing the nomination, where he holds a commanding overall lead according to tallies kept by the Associated Press. By ABC News' count, Obama has already edged ahead among superdelegates.

[Deep13]

41. In an unrelated matter, women are often passed over for promotion...

...in favor of younger, handsome and inexperienced men.

[Bensthename]

43. Are you sure this is unrelated?

:eyes:

[Psephos]

44. Well, at least they're getting 60% of all college degrees and living 7 years longer. n/t

[jonestonesusa]

46. Let's see...comments on Hillary's appearance are sexist

but comments on Obama's appearance are a good argument?

Double standards - you're either for them or against them.

[jettison]

57. "The only reason Obama won is because...

... he's black." - Geraldine Ferraro
... he's a man." - You

It has nothing at all to do with the fact that he's an eloquent, thoughtful, intelligent leader whose messsage resonates with the majority of voters. To simplify the way you've done it is patently sexist. "He only got it because he's a man." In that way, you become the very thing that you claim to despise. My suggestion: A large mirror in a well lit room.

Finally, the most experienced candidate does not equal the best candidate. It's a logical fallacy to claim that it does. George Bush Jr. has 8 years of White House experience as well, while Obama has none. Shall we re-elect Bush for his third term?

[Bensthename]

42. The drip has turned into a steady stream..

:toast:

[smoogatz]

48. Turn out the lights

The party's over...

:kick:

[GetTheRightVote]

49. Go Obama Go !!! Get those Super Delegates.

[swag]

50. TPM Election Central tallies some more

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/05/obamas_superdelegates_keep_on.php

The score so far today: Obama +8, Clinton net +0. Obama is roughly 160 delegates overall from securing the nomination.

[sonias]

51. Wow this is turning into a stampede

They're all going to cross the finish line sprinting.

:woohoo:


Sonia

[TexanDem]

53. Wolf on CNN said awhile ago he still had 3 or 4 more to go. Hope he's wrong.

[indimuse]

55. Which means..

Hillary MUST have had the lead prior! No wonder he wants her out!
snip>
We have all become familiar with Senator Obama’s new brand of politics. First, you demand civility from your opponent, then you attack him, distort his record and send out surrogates to question his integrity. It is called hypocrisy, and it is the oldest kind of politics there is. …


It is important to focus on what Senator Obama is attempting to do here: He is trying desperately to delegitimize the discussion of issues that raise legitimate questions about his judgment and preparedness to be President of the United States.


They ALREADY have him figured out! Have you seen the RW Official New Ad? Interesting...

[thereismore]

56. The supers did move after NC. I din't think NC would be that significant. nt

[Clear Blue Sky]

58. And yet Hillary is hanging in there. What gives??

[RedEarth]

61. Obama picks up 9 superdelegates, union endorsement

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) - Barack Obama all but erased Hillary Rodham Clinton's once-imposing lead among national convention superdelegates on Friday and won fresh labor backing as elements of the Democratic Party began coalescing around the Illinois senator for the fall campaign.

Obama picked up the backing of nine superdelegates, including Rep. Donald Payne of New Jersey, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who had been a Clinton supporter.

In addition, the American Federation of Government Employees announced its support for Obama. The union claims about 600,000 members who work in the federal and Washington, D.C., governments.

Obama, who won a convincing victory in the North Carolina primary and lost Indiana narrowly on Tuesday, has been steadily gaining strength in the days since.



Read more: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080509/D90IBGC81.html

[FogerRox]

62. I think its ten , and the SD lead

[gateley]

63. Really? I just read 6 or 7 --

is there a site which shows who got endorsements on what date?

[RedEarth]

65. further down in the article,,,,,,,

The developments left the former first lady with 271.5 superdelegates, to 271 for Obama. Little more than four months ago, on the eve of the primary season, she held a lead of 169-63.

Superdelegates are party leaders who attend the convention delegates by virtue of their positions, and are not selected in primaries and caucuses.

In addition to Payne, Reps. Peter DeFazio of Oregon and Mazie Hirono of Hawaii, two members of the Democratic National Committee from California and a party official in South Carolina announced they were supporting Obama. Superdelegates from New Mexico and Virginia also joined the migration.

So, too, John Gage, president of the AFGE.

"Our people, I think, recognize the enthusiasm and vitality behind Senator Obama's campaign," he said in a statement.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080509/D90IBGC81.html

[gateley]

66. Thanks! Boy,

what a different four months makes! :7

[Tight_rope]

64. A wise word to Senator Clinton from a former supporter

Please back down gracefully...don't destroy the good thing that the democrats have created.

[damntexdem]

67. C'mon, AFSCME, jump ship -- or rather, board the only one still afloat.

I was a long-time AFSCME member and have been ashamed of its support of Clinton. But now would be a good time for the union to switch.

[Quetzal]

68. Barack Obama picks up support of superdelagate Rep. Mazie Hirono (D-HI)

Source: Honolulu Advertiser

Hirono throws support to Obama

U.S. WASHINGTON -- Rep. Mazie Hirono of Hawai`i, a Democratic superdelegate, announced today that she would support Barack Obama for president at the party's Aug. 25-26 national convention in Denver.
Advertisement

Hirono said she decided to support Obama, an Illinois senator with Hawai`i roots, "after watching these historic (primary) campaigns unfold" across the country.

"It is clear that Americans want our country back on a course of hope and opportunity," said Hirono, who had remained uncommitted to this point.

Hirono said she made her announcement "with deep respect and admiration" for Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"She is an extraordinary woman," Hirono said. "However, it is time to unite the party behind Senator Obama and to use our energy and resources to defeat (presumptive Republican nominee) Senator John McCain."

Read more: http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080509/BREAKING01/80509027&referrer=F

[YDogg]

69. K&R

[jordi_fanclub]

70. AP: Obama overtakes lead in superdelegates for first time

Source: AP via Yahoo

WASHINGTON - Barack Obama erased Hillary Rodham Clinton's once-imposing lead among superdelegates Saturday when he added more endorsements from the group of Democrats who will decide the party's nomination for president.

Obama added superdelegates from Utah and Ohio, as well as two from the Virgin Islands who had previously backed Clinton. The additions enabled Obama to surpass Clinton's total for the first time in the campaign. He had picked up nine endorsements Friday.

The milestone is important because Clinton would need to win over the superdelegates by a wide margin to claim the nomination. They are a group that Clinton owned before the first caucus, when she was able to cash in on the popularity of the Clinton brand among the party faithful.

Those party insiders, however, have been steadily streaming to Obama since he started posting wins in early voting states.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080510/ap_on_el_pr/obama_endorsement

[ixion]

71. Note to Hillary: End it now.

It's over.

[rsmith6621]

72. Obama overtakes Clinton in Democratic superdelegates

Source: AP



By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER 3 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Barack Obama erased Hillary Rodham Clinton's once-imposing lead among superdelegates Saturday when he added more endorsements from the group of Democrats who will decide the party's nomination for president.


Obama added superdelegates from Utah and Ohio, as well as two from the Virgin Islands who had previously backed Clinton. The additions enabled Obama to surpass Clinton's total for the first time in the campaign. He had picked up nine endorsements Friday.

The milestone is important because Clinton would need to win over the superdelegates by a wide margin to claim the nomination.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080510/ap_on_el_pr/obama_endorsement

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[billybob537]

73. Tomorrow she'll have to count

the delagates from South America to rationalize how she could still win!

[TBF]

74. It starts with a trickle...

soon it will be a deluge. And even Hillary will realize it is over.

[rocktivity]

82. dupe, sorry n/t

.

[RBInMaine]

76. Hillary's electoral death knell is ringing: Her own backers are jumping ship.

[Zhade]

75. NICE. Now she has no reason not to accept her loss.

Sweeeeet.

[rocktivity]

84. From Demconwatch.blogspot.com

Before:




After:




:headbang:
rocknation

[aaronbees]

87. That's some beautiful math to see

Go Obama! :bounce:

[Leo 9]

93. OBAMA TAKES SUPERDELEGATE LEAD

Source: msnbc

OBAMA TAKES SUPERDELEGATE LEAD

Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 12:19 PM by Domenico Montanaro
Filed Under: 2008, Obama, Delegates

From NBC's Domenico Montanaro
Barack Obama has overtaken Hillary Clinton in the NBC NEWS superdelegate count with the endorsement of Hawaii's Dolly Strazar. This is his second of the day and puts him now officially over the top, 277-276.5.

Obama has now picked up 21 superdelegates since last Tuesday's contests in North Carolina and Indiana. Clinton has picked up 1.5

The NBC NEWS delegate counts:
PLEDGED: Obama 1,590, Clinton 1,426
SUPERS: Obama 277, Clinton 276.5
TOTAL: Obama 1,867, Clinton 1,702.5

snip

Read more: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/12/1010226.aspx

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:party:

[Captain Hilts]

94. So, now it's okay that the party uses Super Delegates? Our own House of Lords...nt

[bluestateguy]

95. Even the Clinton News Network can't deny it anymore

nt

[tanyev]

96. Does anyone know how you can have .5 of a delegate?

:shrug:

[0rganism]

97. I was wondering the same thing...

Maybe conjoined twin delegates count for 1.5?