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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 03:35 PM
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Group to spend $2.8 million on anti-Obama ad
Source: YN

WASHINGTON - A conservative nonprofit group with a past link to Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign is spending $2.8 million on an ad questioning Democrat Barack Obama's relationship to a founder of the 1960s radical group Weather Underground.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080821/ap_on_el_pr/anti_obama_ad



They are scared!
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 03:38 PM
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1. I use Weather Underground all the time
they have great storm tracking maps. Lets see Obama would have been five years old???
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 03:38 PM
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2. GEEZ, THEY ARE AFRAID... MUST HAVE A LOT TO LOSE
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 03:38 PM
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3. They are scared and the are fucking stupid.
I'll raise you five Keatings, McLoser.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 04:18 PM
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8. Throw in Keating's link to BCCI, and Keating partner's recent campaign money to McCain.
Edited on Thu Aug-21-08 04:55 PM by leveymg
A lot of people are familiar with S&L crook Charles Keating's illegal contributions to John McCain in the 1980s. What most don't know, however, was that Keating was implicated in the BCCI takeover of a number of S&Ls, including his own. With me, so far?

Carl Lindner, an Ohio billionaire with CIA and underworld connections who owned Chiquita Banana Co., was Charles Keating's original partner, banker, and mentor. Lindner, a BCCI principal, got Keating wrapped up with BCCI's schemes. Keating was always a sort of pass-through guy, without any real money of his own. Lindner who finances Right-wing death squads in Colombia, is still giving big, dirty money to McCain. Now, that's a story that the American people need to hear.

leveymg's Journal - THE CRIMES AND COVERUPS OF JOHN McCAIN, “REFORMER” Jun 3, 2008 ... Like the Bush Family, McCain had his Hand in the BCCI and S&L Scandals McCain claims that his involvement in the Keating S&L scandal wasn’t ...
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/leveymg/365 - 48k

McCain Backer's Firm Pleaded Guilty To Funding Terrorist Group In Colombia ...Jul 2, 2008 ... Late last week, Lindner co-hosted a $25000-per-person fundraiser for McCain and the Republican Party in the wealthy Indian Hills ...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/02/mccain-fundraiser-oversaw_n_110354.html - 146k -


The public should get a view into the background of Lindner, Keating and McCain, which essentially boils down to big Mafia money that has flowed into the GOP and various extreme Rightist groups around the world since Meyer Lansky made a deal with the Republicans in the mid-1940s. In exchange for their legalized gambling concession, Lansky and Giancana straightened up the mob's image in the southwest, in exchange the GOP (along with elements of the CIA) got a piece of the action. See, http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg20418.html


During the high points of Keating's reign the
big man in Arizona was Kemper Marley. Marley was the first and
only billionaire in Arizona. His wealth was based originally on
a liquor monopoly conferred upon him by Sam Bronfman of the
SEAGRAMS family. In Arizona Marley was all powerful.

In 1948, fifty two employees of Kemper Marley's wholely
owned company, UNITED LIQUOR, went to prison on federal liquor
violations -- including Gene Hensley, the father-in-law of
Arizona Senator John McCain. Gene Hensley was Kemper Marley's
UNITED LIQUOR general manager. On the basis of so many
prosecutions some people might feel UNITED LIQUOR could qualify
as organized crime. The slick attorney who kept Marley out of
this trial and sent McCain's father-in-law to prison in his place
was William Rehnquist -- currently the Chief Justice of the U.S.
Supreme Court.

It was the judgement of the court that Gene Hensley would
be prohibited from ever working in the liquor industry. Of
course such judgments meant nothing to Marley. When Gene Hensley
got out of prison Marley arranged a BUDWIESER distributorship for
Hensley which is now in the hands of Senator John McCain and
reported to be worth $50 million!

The best source for an introduction to the environment of
total political corruption in Arizona is the book, THE ARIZONA
PROJECT: HOW A TEAM OF INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS GOT REVENGE ON
DEADLINE. In graphic detail journalist Michael Wendland links the
most prominent people in Arizona with various organized crime
king pins. Wendland was part of the group called INVESTIGATIVE
REPORTERS AND EDITORS who came to Phoenix in the wake of the
fatal car bombing of the ARIZONA REPUBLIC's investigative
reporter, Don Bolles. It was the conclusion of this group that
Marley, by far the wealthiest man in Arizona, was behind this
murder.

According to intelligence sources of the Phoenix police, who
prepared a background profile of Kemper Marley the week following
the Bolles murder, Marley was at one time directly connected to
the remnants of the old Al Capone mob.

When Marley died July 1990 he owned 5 square miles of
Carefree )*) the highest priced real estate in Arizona. The
smallest lot in this most exclusive township is zoned for one
acre. By some coincidence the Tax Accessor made the same mistake
evaluating Marley's properties as he did on Charlie Keating's
properties. This oversight was saving Marley a million dollars a
year. Of course the official investigation showed no wrongdoing
in either case.

For the last 45 years Marley bankrolled the Republican Party
which doled out Marley's great wealth to a slate of Republican
candidates who were almost universally successful in obtaining
high political office. Marley was able to control the Democratic
party as well. Every current congressman and every senator in
Arizona owes his position to the Marley machine. These office
holders include "Keating Five" Senators John McCain and Dennis
DeConcini as well as former State Attorney General, Bob Corbin.
At one point Marley served as Chairman of the Board of the
VALLEY NATIONAL BANK. When Bugsy Siegel, on instructions from
Meyer Lansky, built the FLAMINGO CLUB, Las Vegas's first casino,
the money was borrowed from the VALLEY NATIONAL BANK.



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offog Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 06:28 PM
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13. Ah ha!
I've read stories about McCain's "shady connections" and this is just another example. Where do those guys get off making a fuss about Obama's alleged connection to Weather Underground, especially since he would have been barely old enough to read back then?!
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 03:38 PM
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4. GOOD they can piss all their money away GrandPAYellsAtCloundsMcSameAs* is toast
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 03:39 PM
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5. Obama was 7 years old when Ayers did this shit.
That's all he needs to say.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 03:40 PM
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6. A 501(c)4 shouldn't be allowed to mention federal candidates in ads.
They're a soft-money group.

A group should have to raise hard-money for ads about candidates.

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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 03:45 PM
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7. There's a stretch...
:eyes:
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 05:06 PM
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9. Whatever happened to that lobbyist John McCain was fucking?
Remember Vicki Iseman?

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offog Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 06:38 PM
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14. Much as I dislike McClain,
I'm willing to give him the benefit of a doubt on the so-called Iseman affair. Every time a man and a woman become friends, some people will assume they're having an affair. I'm a single woman active in a political party up in Canada, and you wouldn't believe some of the guys I'm supposed to have fucked.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:15 AM
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18. No one running for the most powerful office in the world deserves the "benefit of the doubt" --
-- especially a Republican who prides himself on not kowtowing to lobbyists and whose campaign warned her to stay away from him.

If the media tracked Gary Hart across the continent, certainly they can at least get a statement or an interview with the woman who reaped millions in lobbyist money for her client from McCain.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 05:11 PM
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10. So he served on the same board with this guy, I'm sure there are some real
"characters" johnie boy served with, and it shouldn't be too hard to find them!
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 05:44 PM
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11. This sounds like a lame "Swiftboat II"
Talk about reaching for straws.
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Patriot Abroad Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 05:57 PM
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12. Is it time yet for "Hanoi Translators for Barack Obama"?
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 06:48 PM
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15. I do enjoy watching them spend...
with such vigor on BULLSHIT!

I will play my Keating 5 card, take 10 damage McToad.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:39 PM
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16. The American Issues Project's vague website.
They don't exactly go for specifics, but a brief stop at the site gave me the galloping creepies.

http://www.americanissuesproject.org/

The American Issues Project was founded to champion the conservative values that have made the United States of America a blessed nation: smaller government, a strong and ready national defense, lower taxes, and a government that encourages entrepreneurship and new job creation in America. We also know how critical it is for America to win the war against the radical Islamic extremists abroad so we do not have to fight them here on American soil.

Notice how they recycle the Frank Luntz focus group-tested talking points (i.e., about fighting 'em overseas so we don't have to fight 'em on American soil), warmed-over bits from Grover Norquist, and of course the ever-popular religious right rhetoric.

The group seems to be nothing but Eds -- well, its board is, anyway -- with links to the usual unholy alliances.

http://www.americanissuesproject.org/about-aip.html

American Issues Project Board Members

Ed Failor, Jr.
Ed Failor, Jr., 43, is Executive Vice President of Iowans for Tax Relief and is the Vice Chairman of National Taxpayers Union. Mr Failor serves on the Board of Iowa Right to Life. Ed served as E.D. of the RNC Iowa Victory '04 program.

Ed Martin
Ed Martin, a native of New York City, grew up in rural New Jersey and lived in Indonesia and Italy before settling in St. Louis where he lives with his wife and children. Ed served in the Vatican as a special assistant to the late Pope John Paul II, as Director of Human Rights for the Archdiocese of St. Louis, as Chairman of the St. Louis City Board of Elections, and as Chief of Staff to Missouri Governor Matt Blunt. Ed currently has his own private law practice specializing in public interest litigation.

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 10:10 AM
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21. Ed Failor.
You can't make this shit up.
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Tindalos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:47 PM
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17. Think of all the good they could do with $2.8M.
They could do so much good with that money. But no. They're going to blow it on advertising. :banghead:



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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:18 AM
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19. It's 3 a.m.
the phone rings

does John McCain know what house he's in?
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:50 AM
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20. Taxpayers are now spending OVER $200,000. a minute on Iraq.
Edited on Fri Aug-22-08 09:54 AM by Winterblues
So these guys are spending fifteen minutes worth of our Iraq wasteful spending.. :shrug: Exxon is putting in it's pocket OVER $75,000.00 a minute. In it's friggin' pocket After ALL expenses are paid Forty minutes of these Profits would easily pay for that 2.8 million dollars. Forty fucking minutes.. This is what we are up against..
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 10:36 AM
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22. Fox has already refused to run this ad
Even Fox News Refuses To Run Slime Ad Against Obama
By Eric Kleefeld - August 21, 2008, 7:37PM

How bad does a wingnut ad attacking Obama have to be for Fox News to refuse to run it?

The Associated Press reports that Fox News is declining to run the new ad from the "American Issues Project," a new right-wing swift-boating operation, connecting Obama to former 1960s radical William Ayers.

This may be because the ad accused Ayers of participating in a bombing of the U.S. Capitol, despite there being no evidence he ever did such a thing. So if Fox were to run it, they'd be open to a potential lawsuit for slander.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/even_fox_news_refuses_to_run_s.php
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 10:59 AM
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23. I Don't Know Why
Some progressives groups don't answer with ads showing McCain's much longer, deeper, and continuing relationship with convicted felon and anti-American G Gordon Liddy.

Here's just some of the "hay" to make over John's "Good Friend" Liddy

- He participated in a conspiracy to use the CIA, FBI and criminal activity to destroy our Constitutional government

- He was convicted of felonies connected with an attempt to undermine the Constitutional government of the United States

- He coordinated and participated in an Armed Robery of his political opponents headquarters

- He often said his "only regret" was that "he didn't kill John Dean when he had the chance"

- He conspired to have American citizens arrested, beaten, detained and tortured.

I mean hell!!! Let's start with this guy, and then move on to his "close ties and friendships" with folks like

- Keating
- Limbaugh
- Bush
- Larry Craig (after 30 years in the senate, there has to be a picture of them coming out of the senate washroom together)

Politics ain't beanbag, and progressives and liberals need to start "fighting fire with gasoline"

If they want a scorched earth campaign, then buy God let's give 'em one.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here's one of my favorite quotes:

"When the one great scorer comes to write against your name. He writes not that you won or lost, but how you played the game" - Grantland Rice

"RUBBISH!" - Wayne Woodrow "Woody" Hayes
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