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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:31 AM
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U of I at Chicago opens Ayers records (MSM reviewing records)
Source: ABC News Local

CHICAGO -- The University of Illinois at Chicago has opened records from a nonprofit organization Barack Obama served on that's linked to former '60s radical William Ayers.

Those records include 140 boxes of documents from a school reform group called the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which Ayers was instrumental in starting and Obama chaired in the 1990s.

Ayers teaches at the university. He has a controversial past that some supporters of Republican John McCain want to highlight because of his past work with Obama.

Several news organizations, including The Associated Press, began reviewing the records of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge on Tuesday. The group was awarded nearly $50 million by a foundation in the 1990s to help reform city schools.

Read more: http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/politics&id=6351883



look for the MSM and McCain to give us the full scoop, can't wait... :sarcasm:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:34 AM
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1. Boy, there's nothing more sinister than school-reform groups. I'm sure there's
all sorts of terroristy things in there.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:37 AM
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4. You just know there are terrible documents in there about how to .... more effectively teach kids.
:wow: :scared:
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:35 AM
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2. Reforming city schools
It's so threatening and unpatriotic :sarcasm:

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:37 AM
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3. Repukes HATE our schools! They should give Ayers an Award!
:crazy: fuckers!
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:56 AM
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5. oh, right. he's a socialist.
you only have to read the interwebs to know that. yesterday while leaving a comment on youtube, I was rewarded for suggesting people educate themselves --via snopes or factcheck.org before voting-- with a misspelled death threat.

I guess that's a "no" to educating oneself with the facts, then?

"morans plagerizing hate".

Waa waa.



:puke: :puke: :puke:
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:59 AM
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6. Maybe they were
Teaching kids to build bombs :nuke: :sarcasm:
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:45 PM
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7. If Republickers are going to use "guilt by association," then...
I think they should be dosed with their own medicine.

McCain worked very closely with closet-case Senator Larry Craig, for many years. Therefore, McCain must be a closet case.

McCain has demonstrably close ties with convicted felon Jack Abramoff. Therefore, McCain was complicit with Abramoff's criminal activity.

McCain has ties with Rush Limbaugh and Bill O`Rilley, both of whom have called -- using the public airwaves -- for American deaths and the bombing of American cities. Therefore, McCain must be an American hating terrorist.

What else?
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fjc Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 02:13 PM
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12. That's nothing....
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 02:13 PM by fjc
There were any number of books from conservative think tanks just prior to and leading up to 9/11 where authors were explicitly advocating armed revolt against the US government. Check out some of those essays, for example, in a two part tome called "The End of Democracy"?, edited by John Neuhaus.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 02:16 PM
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13. Good buddy Charles Keating, convicted criminal. //nt
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 02:18 PM by Overseas
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rayofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:04 PM
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8. What was the result...
...of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge? I'd like to know more about it and if the policies that were implemented produced the desired results. Not only in Chicago but in other cities. In my work with school districts nationwide I have never had anyone mention anything to me about applying the lessons learned from the Annenberg Challenge, $500 million is a lot to spend on an experiment and then not learn anything that can be applied to schools everywhere in the country.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:28 PM
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9. I'm afraid of this guilt-by-association stuff.
If you were to go through my past, you might find that I've been acquainted with several known Republicans. In junior high, one of my teachers used to play football with Dick Nixon. I'd hate to be misidentified as a Republican, due to these associations.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:46 PM
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11. I am shaking in my boots also
I was in the Navy with two right wing tv preachers and they were in my same unit and lived in the same barracks as i did.
And worse yet I may have helped train Mc Same when he went thought flight training...but there were so many I can't say for sure.
I am fearful that the moderators will learn of this and kick me off this board just for the fun of it.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:28 PM
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17. "are you now or have you ever been"
The Republican Hero Joe McCarthy used that a lot.

People with superficial connections to leftist organizations in the 1930's found their lives ruined 15 years later.

Modern republicans look up to Joe, and want to use his methods to ruin their political opponents.

Along with Francisco Franco, Joe is one of the founding heroes of the modern conservative movement.

BTW, for more on the Franco/US conservative connection, see http://delong.typepad.com/hoisted_from_the_archives/2007/12/hoisted-from--1.html


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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:40 PM
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10. The Annenbergs...
Walter Annenberg was probably the most conservative and at times almost rabid Republican on the fact of the earth and it has always amazed me that his foundation's money has always ended up being used for what most would consider liberal causes and quite successfully. Liberal as in benefitting society. I often wonder if he or his wife ever realized that. I suspect they did. They just tried to ignore it. But they kept on giving. As his daughter still does. Hopefully the media will explore what exactly the organization did with the $50 million. Most likely very successful programs were put in place as a result of it which benefitted the people of Chicago rather than radical liberal left-wing terrorist plots which of course the Republicans would like to imply were.

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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 02:39 PM
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14. Hopefully the media will explore???????
Media will explore????? media will explore????

hmmmm..... is this a properly formed sentence, somehow it just doesn't sound right.

"As his daughter still does. Hopefully the media will explore what exactly the organization did with the $50 million."
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:10 PM
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16. they fund "the left" so they can control them, & use them to steer
public policy, & hit their enemies.

there's precious little "independent left" anywhere. the ideas & $ are mostly courtesy of the ruling class.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:26 PM
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15. Sorry I don't like any of it
The Repuke meme is that Obama should have known better then to associate himself with Ayers. Did Obama know who Ayers was and what he had done in the sixties? If the answer is no then he should say it. If the answer is yes then he should explain it. The repukes have every intention of letting America know who ayers was and what he and his groups did in the sixties. Then they will say if Obama has such good judgement... Why would he join in any endeavors with this man?

Just sayin.
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