NBC "Fact Checking Palin

[chknltl]

Source: NBC News

NBC news did this fact checking of what Palin has been saying. The link just came up minutes ago.
Top of link: "Fact Checking Sarah Palin" you'll have to wait through an advertisement first but WELL WORTH the wait!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#26759502

DU this link with our gratitude. [e-mail]
Let NBC know that it is getting legs online




Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#26759502

[annabanana]

1. There are more people WITHOUT cable than there are WITH cable.

Whenever the truth leaks out onto the Networks and gets broadcast into living rooms across the Country, we win!

I sent a nice thank you atta boy sort of letter to NBC. It's no good hollering when they're silent if we don't speak up when they get something right.

[wishlist]

2. ABC's Brian Ross pointed out some of her falsehoods several days ago too nt

[Supersedeas]

49. and will Katie Couric follow in Hannity's shoes with softballs and lipstick

[amdezurik]

57. I think the game now should be

to find non-false statements or non-self-contradictory ones from her...

[crim son]

3. I wrote 'em.

I don't have cable and consequently don't watch any t.v. news because it tends to bullshit. Not this time, and it's appreciated.

[chknltl]

5. Thank You crim son

Letting NBC know our thoughts could be VERY IMPORTANT right now. They are angry that Palin wouldn't grant an interview.

[notaboutus]

4. Brian Williams is the BEST @ NBC

Brian Williams deserves all the credit because he decides what gets covered on his show. I was MSNBC's number one fan from Morning Joe to K.O. to Super Tuesday but after their convention coverage I put them down.
Brian Williams was the ONLY one who showed journalistic integrity while covering both conventions. He is always impartial and sticks to the facts all the others at NBC need to take notes.

P.S. K.O. & R.M. get a pass because left or right they have facts to back up why they formed their opinions. They don't pretend to be impartial and they don't care if you are democrat or republican a lie is a lie.

[chknltl]

7. His shoes just got big enough to fill...

The body of the BIG GIANT HEAD of Brian Williams that occasionally appears on a screen on the John Stewart Show every now and then.

[bluevoter4life]

29. I thought it wasTed Koppel? n/t

[chknltl]

35. Actually they both did...

Because you asked and truth be told, I DID remember seeing the Giant Head of Ted Koppel, I ended up looking and found that both have indeed played the part.

Here is a link to Koppel Giant Head: http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=88743&title=giant-head-of-ted-koppel

Another link of Giant Head featuring Brian Williams: http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=85077&title=Giant-Head-of-Brian-Williams

Here is an interesting link where Brian Williams tells Jon Stewert he needs more giant head: http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=88814&title=Brian-Williams

And finally the link to Giant Heads who have appeared on Jon Stewert to include Ted Koppel; Brian Williams; Robert Loggia and Bruce Willis: http://www.thedailyshow.com/tagSearchResults.jhtml?term=giant+head

[bushmeister0]

40. Hey Dolphins fan. Welcome to DU!

So Brady is out. Anyway Wes Welker falls down a flight of stairs before the game on Sunday? I'm thinking Rolando Hill & Co. are in need of fire extinquishers all afternoon.

Better to pay attention to politics than think about what's going to happen to our boys in Aqua and Orange on Sunday.

[tulsakatz]

30. I agree......

I don't usually watch NBC, mainly because I don't think to turn it on. I'm usually watching MSNBC.

I remember during Katrina, he was in the Superdome and I remember the way he spoke so passionately about what happened there. And that was when I really started to notice him.

NBC made a great choice when they replaced Brokaw with Williams.

Thanks for the video........I emailed him too.

[chknltl]

36. Thanks for letting him and NBC know how we feel.

:thumbsup: I think that it is as important to encourage the MSM when they do it right as it is to discourage them when they do as they have been doing these past 8 years.

[hay rick]

6. It's a start.

There are two major problems with our democracy- a disengaged and frequently ignorant electorate and the mass media responsible for keeping them that way. Sent a thank you to NBC for doing the job they are supposed to be doing.

[chknltl]

8. Thanks for sending them that letter hay rick

I agree on both of your points. My letter reflected that democracy REQUIRES an informed electorate and that most of that electorate had been reduced to getting informed online. I thanked them for leading the charge on regaining the electorate's viewership on television. If they keep this up they will indeed be leading that charge ya know! They need to fact check both candidates, their VP's and their campaigns-they need to do this constantly. If they do this, NBC NEWS will gain the lions-share of those who get their news from TV AND online!

[burythehatchet]

9. How remarkable is it that a segment of The Daily Show is dubbed over with an NBC

presstitute, and we see it is as some great breakthrough. But I do recognize how critical this is, nonetheless.

[bobd0]

10. Sent a thank you email to NBC Nightly News. K&R!

The more voters know about Palin the less likely they are to vote for McCain.

[chknltl]

Right On!

:thumbsup:

[mascarax]

11. Done

Thanks for the link.

[chknltl]

12. Another thanks right back at ya!

If enough of us chime in they may notice...well that's what my hopes are at any rate.

[IaTom]

13. compulsive lairs

I was married to a compulsive lair for 14 years and I'll tell you "It's an adventure". It is an illness the same as drug addiction or alcoholism. I have heard her tell a lie when the truth would have worked better. They seem to live in another universe than normal people do. After a couple years you can really believe just the opposite and you will be correct 90% of the time. Being the life of the party and head bragger is very important to them. If you don't know how wonderful they are just wait they'll tell you.

[carolinablue]

18. My boss is a compulsive liar

It is scary to watch. She also lies when there is no need. I think sometimes she convinces herself that she is telling the truth.

[renate]

32. welcome to DU!

:hi:

How frustrating about your boss. Good luck with that.... :(

[renate]

31. welcome to DU!

It sounds like you've been through a lot... I'm glad that seems to be all over for you.

[truebrit71]

14. Wow...that will ruffle a few feathers...

...about damn time...and if she keeps using those lies up until the debate I hope Senator Biden calls her on it....live....

[BayjanDem]

15. Woo Hoo!

"Thanks, but no thanks." How original. She's a fembot.

[spag68]

16. NBC

I sent them a note also,but I noticed one of their other videos a reference to "Regan democrats". I wish we could debunk that notion,as IMHO there is no such thing as a Reagan dem. No one who voted for that impostor was a true dem. Uninformed, uninterested, and easily swayed, those who did were either never dems. or just plain stupid. I am a retired construction and had many arguments about it at the time, still can't figure how so many were fooled, and so many still seem susceptible to their bs.

[chknltl]

17. Thanks for sendin' them a note of appreciation

One step at a time though-I agree, regan Democrat is an oxymoron and it's usage needs to never even be considered. One step at a time. This Palin fact check piece IMO is a nice first step, done in anger perhaps but good to see and worthy of praise, all things considered. Thanks again for sendin' them something. Perhaps if enough of us chime in...well I have high hopes.

[Frisbee]

19. Shouldn't "fact checking" be...

fact searching? "fact checking" implies there may actually be some facts. I'm sure if there are, they were mistakes or oversights.

[Omnibus]

21. No, it's "fact checking", not "fact finding"!

If you check your email and don't find any emails, you've still checked it.

If you check your oil and don't need to add oil, you've still checked it.

If they check Sarah Plain's facts, and don't find any, they've still done their fact checking!

[chknltl]

23. I loved this bit:

"If they check Sarah Plain's facts, and don't find any, they've still done their fact checking!"
(spelling on Palin took nothing away from my actual lol, btw)

[Omnibus]

24. Thank you. "Sarah Plain" is intentional...

...but not original.

I've seen it spelled that way on several sites. I get the feeling that being referred to as plain would really get under her skin, too.

[Omnibus]

20. I sent them a "thank you" too.

The text:

"Thank you very much for your segment entitled "Fact Checking Sarah Palin".

Dishonesty in American politics has become an epidemic. The media is in part responsible for this. Too often, they read government/candidate press releases as "news" without analysis. They focus on the horse-race in exclusion of the issues. They accept misstatements and outright lies without blinking.

By actually calling out a vice-presidential candidate on her repeated lies, you are fulfilling your function as the Fourth Estate and making our democracy a little bit healthier. Some may complain about your attacks, but don't be discouraged; the Truth can never be a partisan attack.

Thanks for restoring my faith in the media a little.

Now do it a million times."

[chknltl]

22. Beautiful and to the point

mine was...well I am not a great writer of my thoughts, I feel strongly about what I feel though:

"Re: The Palin Fact Check Piece:
WAY TO GO NBC!!!!! The blogosphere is all over this right now, please get a link out there for us to read or view ASAP. I'd like to add: Democracy REQUIRES an informed electorate-the MSM has been woefully inadequate as of late in keeping the electorate informed. Millions, likely hundreds of millions of Americans are getting their news online now because of this. If you want us to flock to NBC for our news, break away from the pack-provide us with the REAL news-the news that will influence our decision making. You will quite literally resuscitate our failing democracy should you do this. A grateful America will not be quick to forget the news-service who does this for us. Be the leader you can be-everyone else in the Main Stream Media will be in a footrace to catch up. You know my words are true. Thank you again for the Palin piece."



They replied with an interesting form-letter:

Thank you for contacting NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams.

Your feedback is critically important to Nightly News.

We began using our e-mail address in December of 1993. Since then, we have been pleased to receive valuable feedback from our viewers . We are especially encouraged that many of you are suggesting stories you would like us to report or investigate.

Many of our important stories come directly from your letters and we look forward to any ideas and comments you have in the future.

We will try to answer as many of your inquiries as possible, but answers to many of your frequently asked questions can be answered on our website: www.Nightly.MSNBC.com <http://www.nightly.msnbc.com/>, where you can also watch the NBC Nightly News Netcast, The Early Nightly and watch video or read printed versions of recent stories.

While you're there, you can also read and respond to our blog: www.DailyNightly.MSNBC.com <http://www.dailynightly.msnbc.com/>

TRANSCRIPTS - Transcripts for all NBC News Programs are available through the Burrelle Transcript Service by calling 1-800-777-TEXT.

VIDEOTAPES - Segments from NBC News programs are available on vhs cassette through NBC NEWS ARCHIVES. You can purchase a segment for $150 by mailing a request to:

NBC NEWS ARCHIVES

30 Rockefeller Plaza

Room 327W

[Waiting For Everyman]

25. Will help "DU" it, thanks.

[chknltl]

37. Thanks back at ya

Perhaps, if enough of us let them know our thoughts of gratitude, it might make a difference. All things considered this might be a good time to point out to them how hungry We The People are for real news right now! IMO, if they chose to break ranks and do REAL investigative reporting regarding all things political they could leap head and shoulders above everyone else in the ratings.

[Captain Lance Bass]

26. Any link to a transcript? nt

[chknltl]

39. Best I can do:

TRANSCRIPTS - Transcripts for all NBC News Programs are available through the Burrelle Transcript Service by calling 1-800-777-TEXT
I got this in a return to my E-Mail where I asked if they could post the video OR transcript to the piece less than an hour after it aired on the east coast.
(I think you will have to request the piece: "Fact Checking Sarah Palin" and/or 9-17-'08)

[Doodler71]

27. I sent off an email

Hi, I'm new to posting but have been reading on and off for quite a while.

Tonight I sent this email to MS-NBC:

Thank you for starting to report the news and not just the released statements from the campaigns.

Next question: Why aren’t candidates availing themselves to the press and having an open dialog? Are they afraid of too close of an inspection? There is too much of the wizard oz effect going on with the man behind the curtain creating the distractions.

Please keep up the investigative reporting. It’s about time that the media started acting like journalists and reporters instead of readers of scripts. You have a responsibility in a free society to keep the citizens informed and not just read propaganda.

____

Just had the form letter reply pop into my mailbox.

I hope the MSM keeps it up.

[chknltl]

41. Right On and Welcome to the DU

Your sentence: "There is too much of the wizard (of) oz effect going on with the man behind the curtain creating the distractions."-is spot on but this: "You have a responsibility in a free society to keep the citizens informed and not just read propaganda"-can't be said enough! Democracy REQUIRES an informed electorate. Thanks to the internet, a great many are getting their primary news here and thanks to that Wizard of Oz phenomenon there is precious little news to be gleaned from TV. I sorta pointed this out as well in my e-mail to them.

I know it is pie-in-the-sky thinking on my part but wouldn't it be grand if in some NBC boardroom, with thoughts of a dramatic stock plunge in their minds, there are 'powers that be' re-thinking their future as possible leaders in REAL INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING! The boon to their advertisers would be....-well exciting to say the least. Every other news service would be stuck in the position of imitators at that point and be regarded as only somewhat better than FOX NOISE in comparison.

That's a powerful carrot I am sure someone is thinking about. The popularity of Kieth Olbermann and recently added Rachel Maddow fuels my own speculations along these lines.

Welcome again to the Big DU, here's to you Doodler71 :toast:

[Skratchez]

28. I usually just lurk here...

but that was over the top. Kudos to NBC and K&R this thread. If the mainstream media is actually going to cover the BS that is being spouted by McLame/Plain I am one happy son of a gun. We should all pray to various deities that this kind of info is in the MSM. Accountability for pre-election lies would be a nice counter-point to the nonsense that CheneyBush is still polluting the airwaves with.

[chknltl]

42. A big DU welcome to the lurking Skratchez

Thanks for the KnR. If I could ask a favor though-send off your thank you and your thoughts regarding the Palin Fact Checking piece to: [e-mail] (That is if you haven't already.) I'm trying to get as many as I can to do so. Perhaps if we do this in enough numbers on those rare occasions that members of the MSM actually do even a little bit of honest reporting....well who knows. Welcome again and thanks for lurking in our 'information rich' forum.

[Kitty Herder]

33. I just sent them a nice little thank you note.

It's good to see some honest fact-checking on the news. Props to NBC Nightly News.

[chknltl]

43. Yes indeed it is good to see this!

All things considered, this wasn't such a big thing investigative wise BUT it's been too damned long since the TV News could be counted on for such a performance! Thanks for sending that little thank you note.

[Imagevision]

34. Palin the maverick numbers have dropped 10 points since she entered the race...

[chknltl]

44. I've seen her numbers dropping too....

...none that high though-GREAT NEWS indeed! Pieces like NBC's fact checking on her are gonna help all of us and should help keep her honest-if she wants to play fair that is. If she wants to continue to lie OTOH, well those numbers might continue to decline, ESPECIALLY if NBC is out there keeping us informed on the truth.

[bushmeister0]

38. Anyone see this bit with the troopergate thing?

John Fund? Really? Now there's some journalistic integrity!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#26762391

[chknltl]

45. Just watched it.... This is my first exposure to John Fund

To be honest, he felt an awful lot like a republican shill. I say this because: recently a "committee" (for want of a better word) of 2000 doctors has petitioned to McCain to release his medical records. McCain's reluctance so far to release them suggests that he is hiding something. McCain appears to be having health related issues on camera-memory loss and perhaps a growth on the left side of his face which appears to be getting larger, maybe a re-occurrence of that cancer? Senator Obama, otoh, has been struggling with cigarettes but other than that appears quite healthy, quite vital.

John Fund in that interview stated that Senator McCain has released a thousand(s?) of page(s?) regarding his medical records while Senator Obama only released a single page! Doesn't that seem a bit of partisan distracting? Something a shill might say as a backward way of building up McCain's questionable health, downplaying McCain's secrecy while questioning Obama's health and his transparency??? There were other examples in Fund's turns at the mic too.

I am not so sure about that Fund character from what little I have seen of him here...I would suggest that Chris Mathews and the other guy in that interview, (from Mother Jones Press or some-such-I forget his name, don't know him either) had better journalistic integrity.

[annabanana]

46. NBC is rerunning the Palin Fact Check piece now!.. I guess the

positive feedback worked!

[chknltl]

47. Not sure about our taking credit for this but who knows....

...maybe this could be the start of something good and we are witness to it. OTOH perhaps our modest efforts did indeed get through to someone at NBC. We may never know but one thing is certain: a lot of positive feedback can have an influence. I suggest that we encourage folks to keep letting NBC know when they have earned a thumbs-up and why on those days that they do stuff like this. I, for one will be watching tonights broadcast-not a normal thing for me to be doing at 6 PM, well not for many years that is.

I hope that Daily Kos did a story about NBC's piece on Palin too. The more the merrier and the better our chances are on influencing a major network with our collective encouragements. If even one member of the MSM breaks to doing hard hitting investigative reporting that actually is informing the electorate on matters of real importance...well that would be the straw that broke the camel's back now wouldn't it. The electorate would flock to such a station in droves I think. The crooks which have hijacked our nation would then be exposed by the news...We The People would have our country back! (If one is gonna dream, may as well dream big!)

On edit: between two or three threads on this topic I counted about 20 e-mails from us DUers to NBC. A good start I would say.

[tbyg52]

48. Email sent. Thanks for the reminder. My jaw dropped when I saw this on the evening news. nt

[chknltl]

50. Thanks for sending out that e-mail.

Yeah-definitely jaw dropping. Some have suggested that it was because Palin snubbed NBC for an interview. If so, it's game on from here on out and our encouraging NBC with our e-mails is only fueling the fire against Palin imo.

[JBoy]

51. With all that lying, she's gonna be kicked off the rapture train.

[fortyfeetunder]

52. Palin knows more about energy than anyone else.

Interesting accolade, Here is a dilemma:

Can I take her to petroleum engineering school?

OR is it better I take her to "Are you Smarter than a Fifth Grader" to battle on the geology topic?

[chknltl]

53. I am SOOO nominating this for a DUZY!!!!

First I have to show this to a friend. Then I need to go find JeffR. PUH-LEESE tell me that you thought this up, that you didn't see it on you-tube or something. :rofl:

[fortyfeetunder]

55. Yes, this is something I dreamt up myself.

I am a smart-@SS....<g>

[chknltl]

58. Hooray- May I send it off far and wide?

Jon Stewert, Ed Shultz, Rachel Maddow, Randi Rhodes, Joe Biden, SNL*, and etc.
*What a lovely SNL skit: Sarah Palin goes up against a bunch of 5th graders-gets beat by one of the kids then has the kid removed from the show!

[chknltl]

54. This needs to be a meme out there right now IMO

With your permission, I'd like to send this out to a bunch of places. It could and should easily be on the Daily Show or in a Jay Leno monologue...it's short and sweet, it would be something Joe Biden could even say!

Of course I will feel like a total idiot* if this line's been going around the blogosphere for the last 48 hours and I am that last guy on earth who hadn't heard it yet!
(*please note my name: I chose it for a damned good reason.)

[crossroads]

56. Kick! nt