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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:40 PM
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Computer expert denies knowledge of ‘04 vote rigging in Ohio
Source: Columbus Ledger / McClatchey Newspapers

A Republican computer consultant denied under oath Monday that he knew of any GOP effort to steal the 2004 election for President Bush by rigging Ohio's vote totals, an attorney who questioned him said.

A federal judge on Friday ordered Michael Connell, whose firms had consulting contracts with Bush's campaign and with the Ohio secretary of state's office in 2004, to submit to a limited, closed-door deposition in a suit alleging schemes to fix the vote.

A transcript of the deposition was unavailable, but Clifford Arnebeck, the plaintiffs' attorney, whose clients include the Rainbow Coalition and other liberal groups, said that during some two hours of questioning, Connell "denied any knowledge of the altering of votes."

Connell also denied knowing of any leftover "Trojan Horses" - bits of computer code that could play havoc with Tuesday's vote counts, Arnebeck said.

Read more: http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/254/story/497984.html
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:45 PM
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1. I don't care if he's under oath,
that's horseshit. Large, steaming, odiferous piles of it.

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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:55 PM
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4. with it "under oath"
if evidence surfaces that says otherwise, he's toast ...

Remember, they wanted to throw a sitting President out of office for "lying under oath" ... or, as Mannthrax Coultercaust put it, "I hope they don't convict him for something as lame as perjury" ...
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:05 PM
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8. exactly....
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 11:35 AM
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30. Well, if he DID tell the truth he's a DEAD MAN and he KNOWS it.
Kerry HAD a whistleblower in the days after the election who then refused to come forward - he was scared silent and no other workers were talking.

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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:49 PM
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2. I guess this is to be expected.
I'm not sure that I believe him, but it's the answer I expected.

I want to see the exact wording of the questions and the answers.
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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:54 PM
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3. Water board him! Send him to Gitmo. eom.
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garthranzz Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:59 PM
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5. Liar! Liar!

Bwhahahahaha - He's got a nice place in some secluded island waiting for him.

What do gangster do to rats?

What does "under oath" mean to scum like that?

No, he didn't know of any leftover "Trojan Horses" - but he sure as hell knows of the ones that are there deliberately.

He knew of no GOP effort, but he knew of Blackwell, Rove and Bush's successful theft.

Doesn't matter.

The truth will out.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:02 PM
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6. recommend -- that no one believes him. nt
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 10:02 PM by xchrom
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scytherius Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:04 PM
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7. Well look at it this way . . .
While no way do I believe it wasn't rigged, suppose what he is saying is true. That means one HELL of a landslide tomorrow.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:06 PM
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9. Me Believes He Perjured Himself
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:07 PM
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10. However, Connell also acknowledged leftover "Trojans" from the victory party held later that night.
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RJ Connors Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:14 PM
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11. "Connell "denied any knowledge of the altering of votes."
That's so later on when he gets caught up in this thing he can say, "Oh, so that's what they were doing? You know I kind of wondered about that"!

You know I have kind of been reading about this the last couple of days and interestingly enough there is just zero news coverage on any of the big news organizations web pages.
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:16 AM
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21. Yeah, he didn't alter the "votes"; he altered the
count.
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DeadManInc Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:19 PM
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12. polygraph test him
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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:33 PM
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13. I agree with that but he's probably enough of a sociopath that
it wouldn't show any irregularities. Lets not forget that Rove supposedly threatened his lobbyist wife with being exposed for money laundering if he talked.
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:14 AM
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20. He, himself claimed that, and
now he says that there were no irregularities to be threatened about. Just another form of nose-thumbing.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:51 PM
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14. According to my daughter, who is an attorney, people lie under oath
all the time. In this case I would assume that the perjury would depend on the greater charge--fixing an election or lying under oath and maybe being found-out.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:54 PM
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16. Pardon?
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:54 PM
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15. Execute him.
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Patriought Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 11:13 PM
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17. That's what they always say...
"had no knowledge" "we could find no evidence" "have no recollection"
"I categorically deny" etc...

No one ever says "it didn't happen" or "I did not do it"
Is there some secret oath somewhere that these guys all adhere to that specifically forbids them to give a straight answer?
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 11:20 PM
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18. "denied any knowledge of the altering of votes." Interesting Phraseology.
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 11:24 PM by btmlndfrmr
Theres more to this story. He can point fingers as to who does I'd bet.


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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 05:25 AM
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25. Yes it is smokey. Did he know they COULD HAVE?
The phrasing seems decidedly askance from the question being raised.
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:10 AM
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19. But he also says Rove threatened him to take the fall for this non-existent scheme. n/t
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 01:17 AM
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22. Trot out a guy who didn't do it, and that is what you get! HUGE D'oh!!
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 06:46 AM
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27. because, under no circumstances would he be lying. that never happens.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 08:37 AM
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28. because the Ohio ballots were switched BEFORE they were counted.
Sometimes I think no one at DU even knows how to fix an election! :rofl:

Ohio, with 3/4ths punch cards in 2004, was easily fixed because
switching ballots to an adjacent precinct turned Kerry votes to Bush votes.

The election was fixed by switching ballots BEFORE counting!!!

This McConnell attention obfuscates of the Ohio 2004 theft! Think about it.
If the Rs stole Ohio by vote-switching, how would they cover it up?
Dragging out a bunch of Republican lawyers, presumed Greens, IT guys, whistleblowers, etc. and dressing them up as reformers .... ????

He had no reason to lie, unless of course, he was asked if ballots cast for Kerry counted for Bush.
Did they ask the right questions? Undoubtedly NO!

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xochi Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 02:17 AM
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23. Yeah.......riiight....
And yet these Bushco Repugs talk about "patriotism" and "honor."
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Dems4me Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 02:21 AM
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24. Kick it Up nt
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MrsBrady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 05:54 AM
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26. did you do it? No... ok, thanks n/t
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 08:42 AM
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29. Kudos and laurel wreaths to Cliff Arnebeck, the REPUBLICAN election reform activist who
has been on this from day one, and has pursued it relentlessly, through every kind of hardship and obstruction, including being marginalized and black-holed in the 'news.' He is the spirit of Abe Lincoln trying to be reborn in the Republican Party! I remember him saying that Republican precincts were the easiest place to steal votes for Bush without raising eyebrows, and that Republican votes for Kerry were stolen in Ohio. That really got me to thinking about these 'TRADE SECRET' voting machines--with the secret code owned and controlled by Bushwhack corps--and the subtle uses they could be put to.

Hats off to Cliff Arnebeck! What a great man and great patriot!

:patriot:
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