Invoking Obama, House Judiciary Chairman subpoenas Rove

[MiaCulpa]

Source: Raw Story - John Byrne

Invoking President Barack Obama, House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers (D-MI) has subpoenaed former Bush Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove about his alleged involved in the political prosecution of an Alabama governor and the firings of nine US Attorneys.

The subpoena, approved by an earlier vote of the House, was issued pursuant to "authority granted in H.R. 5 (111th Congress), and calls for Mr. Rove to appear at deposition on Monday, February 2, 2009."

Specifically, it enjoins Rove "to testify regarding his role in the Bush Administration’s politicization of the Department of Justice, including the US Attorney firings and the prosecution of former Alabama Governor Don Siegelman."

Read more: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/CONYERS_SUBPOENAS_KARL_ROVE_0126.html

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Full article including pdf of the original subpoena at link.

-Diane

[Ian David]

1. OOoh! Johnny Letter wrote another subpoena! I bet Rove is a-scared! n/t

[RoccoR5955]

49. He better be scared... He can't hide behind Chimpy McChucklenuts and

his buddy, Darth Cheney!

It's about time!

[Jambalaya]

63. McCain Withheld Abramoff e-mail connecting Alabama Governor

McCain Withheld Controversial Abramoff EmailFeb 25, 2008 ... McCain Withheld Controversial Abramoff Email - The Huffington Post.
www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/25/mccain-withheld-controver_n_88304.html ______________________________________________:


IF YOU NEVER READ ANOTHER ITEM,YOU GOTTA READ THIS ONE.....THE ACTUAL e-MAIL IS INCLUDED IN THIS SAM STEIN PIECE!

[Jambalaya]

55. It ain't over till the fat fella sings an encore

US Attorney Resigns
Following Conyers’ Request for BBC Documents
by Greg Palast
June 1, 2007

Tim Griffin, formerly right hand man to Karl Rove, resigned Thursday as US Attorney for Arkansas hours after BBC Television ‘Newsnight’ reported that Congressman John Conyers requested the network’s evidence on Griffin’s involvement in ‘caging voters.’ Greg Palast, reporting for BBC Newsnight, obtained a series of confidential emails from the 2004 Bush-Cheney campaign. In these emails, Griffin, then the GOP Deputy Communications Director, transmitted so-called ‘caging lists’ of voters to state party leaders.

Experts have concluded the caging lists were designed for a mass challenge of voters’ right to cast ballots. The caging lists were heavily weighted with minority voters including homeless individuals, students and soldiers sent overseas.

Conyers, Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee investigating the firing of US Attorneys, met Thursday evening in New York with Palast. After reviewing key documents, Conyers stated that, despite Griffin’s resignation, “We’re not through with him by any means.”

Conyers indicated to the BBC that he thought it unlikely that Griffin could carry out this massive ‘caging’ operation without the knowledge of White House Deputy Chief of Staff Rove.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Excerpt from BBC article

[niceypoo]

64. This is why I believe McCains campaign was so wacko

Rove knew what would happen if McCain lost, and got too desperate. Hense all of the twisted commercials and campaign meems.

He knew that Obama winning meant prison for him.

[Ian David]

91. Rove doesn't need to go to prison. He could always kill himself first. n/t

[bobd0]

68. If that scumbag Rove tries to take anoter "vacation" to avoid this subpoena

rendition his flabby ass right off the street and take him to a black site.

What a piece of shit. No wonder his mother committed suicide.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

78. My heart skipped a beat just reading this. I hope the public remains vigilant

in demanding justice because public opinion will drive this forward.

[D-Lee]

90. BTW Congressional subpoenas might be a different game with Dems in charge

Congressional subpoenas have had a couple of weak spots in relation to enforcement -- routine action on non-compliance is taken by the DC US Attorney (action may be declined and, if so, appointing a special prosecutor would require a majority Congressional vote) and Administrative opposition to disclosure in court action to enforce the subpoena can occur.

This 2007 article lays out historical illustrations:
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/7/8/1731/15806

With a Democratic majority and an Democratic administration, it is possible that Congressional subpoenas might have more teeth ... the Republicans both in Congress and the Administration undermined the power of this investigatory tool.

So, let's see what happens. Don't assume it is the "same old game" ...

[babylonsister]

2. Now Rove doesn't have idiot son to hide behind. I wonder what he'll do? nt

[alllyingwhores]

10. I would assume that he'll simply ignore the subpoena...like they always do...

...and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WILL F__KING HAPPEN!

[Optical.Catalyst]

29. Or Rove could be given immunity and proceed to blow the lid off it

Mr Rove your choices are:
Take immunity and testify

or

Go to jail, (the cell Susan McDougal occupied is presently available.)

[Baby Snooks]

79. He may not be able to do that now...

Before he was able to avoid a confrontation because of Bush pulling the "executive branch versus the legislative branch" rabbit out of the hat. Bush is no longer president. No more rabbits. No more hats.

Hope springs eternal as they say. Maybe Obama will go after all of them after all.

It's a shame the Democrats don't have a 2/3 majority. They could pass legislation banning the Republican Party. They really are all just so corrupted by the last eight years. For those in Texas you can see it and read it every time one of the two Bush lapdogs pretending to be US Senators waxes eloquently about what's wrong with the country. They both need to look in a mirror. They are what is wrong with this country.

[NBachers]

85. "They could pass legislation banning the Republican Party"

* RICO * RICO * RICO * RICO *

OK, since we all know the Republican Party is a Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization, maybe we can actually make this a reality. Perhaps Conyers is actually going to follow the procedures and connect the dots this time.

Go JC!

[TheEuclideanOne]

12. Yeah..... MuaHaHaHaHaHaaaaaaaaaaa

I would so love to see something really happen this time and if I can repeat your well articulated point....."Now Rove doesn't have idiot son to hide behind" It just brings a smile to my face.

[alstephenson]

3. Great news!!!

Thank you, Rep. Conyers!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[LakeSamish706]

4. I sure hope they don't let this slide..... Get the sucker in hand cuffs... n/t

[nc4bo]

28. ack wrong post. nt

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[Captain Hilts]

6. Wow!

VROOOOMM!

[Gregorian]

7. In all of this excitement I forgot about Rove! Do you feel lucky?

Well do ya, PUNK.


I am so looking forward to things.

[baldguy]

8. What's worse?

Jailing someone because they belong to a different political party?

or

Outing a CIA agent in wartime?

edit to add The Pic:

[RC]

32. I like this picture better

[sonias]

9. Praise Conyers and pass the indictments please

You know he's going to lie under oath don't you?

I'm sure he's one the phone to his lawyer right now to see how he can avoid testifying.

:woohoo:


sonia

[MorningGlow]

11. So what happens if Rove blows it off now?

Would he think he could still get away with it?

[burythehatchet]

13. I suspect Holder will be asked to choose

[proud2BlibKansan]

88. But Holder isn't in yet

[byrok]

14. What makes anyone think

that he will show up? He ignored it the first time and nothing happened. Why suspect congress has grown a backbone now? It's the same as not going after Bushco for all their other crimes. If nothing is done the first time, it sets precedent.

I'd love to see this prick in cuffs, but my confidence is not high.

[TankLV]

72. We think the diff is that the WAR CRIMINAL is no longer in power, hence no longer able to shield him

Do you not seriously believe that obama would just "not interfere" with the judicial process?!!!

THAT is the BIG diff here...

[Stinky The Clown]

15. A few years too late .......

[dixiegrrrrl]

16. Interesting name change, Stinky....

these name changes are confusing me...

[kestrel91316]

57. We always knew him affectionately as Stinky per his sig.

He just made it official.

[NewJeffCT]

24. The only advantage to now

is that they don't have to worry about a Bush pardon if Rove does get in trouble.

[DainBramaged]

17. Frog-march time

[diane in sf]

18. I don't think Rove will be able to ignore the subpoena--elections have consequences...

[UpInArms]

19. 1/20/09 was not the end of the Bush mal-administration - but it was

the beginning of the end

and all I can say is

Rock On!

:applause:

[KoKo]

30. Fingers Crossed, here....not holding breath, anymore...or I'd be dead by now...

but...maybe....this time? :shrug:

[UpInArms]

39. keep breathing my friend

and we shall keep our fingers crossed together as we watch and watch and hope for judgment day

[underpants]

20. Groundhog Day

:bounce:

[pleah]

21. Well, what do know about that?!

At least it wasn't another strongly worded letter.

[Richardo]

22. It's been 24 business hours already?

[snot]

23. "Invoking Obama"? I got a feeling there's gonna be a lot thrown on his coat tails.

If they'd all f---ing stand up, instead of relying on just one guy to stand up, think what we could do!

[AlbertCat]

25. The RW will cry "Witch hunt!"

And I say let'em. Who cares what they cry about? They'll be whining so much in the next months it's gonna sound like a friggin' maternity ward. And people are sick of that!

And the Dems can just respond with about how they saw they could get nothing moving forward when Bush does things like commute Scooter Libby's sentence, so they waited until there was no obstructions to justice....like Bush.

Just SAY IT OUT LOUD guys. We...the ones on your side....are all thinking it. If Repugs raise the disrespect meme, just remind them of Cheney's "Fuck you"....and be straight forward, and factual in the 1st place. Dig up sound and video to back you...1st. There's plenty of it!

[jmowreader]

26. I think Congress was scared of Bush

I don't blame them. Look what happened to Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy. There's also enough uncertainty around the Wellstone crash that even if (or though--I come down on the side of the latter) the root cause of Paul Wellstone's death was Bad Pilots, Bush COULD have had something to do with it. Therefore, it's best not to piss him off.

Now there's no reason to hold back, and I think we'll see some pretty significant convictions over the next year or so.

On edit: If I could only throw two Bush administration members in jail, Karl Rove and Benito Bush would be the two.

[Politicalboi]

46. Yes they were scared but

That is NO excuse. The law is the law and if they fought more and got the people to back them, then this shit wouldn't have happened.

[Veronica.Franco]

27. He's In The Jailhouse Now ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLfYVFamso8

Johnny Cash says it best ... ;-)

[kaccey]

31. About Time !

[McCamy Taylor]

33. Now we see if John Dean was right and he has a secret pardon.

[defendandprotect]

82. John Dean was on with Olbermann the other night, I think?

Is that where he suggested that?

Interesting -- ???

Did he add any other thoughts on this?

Meanwhile, I think John Dean did an admirable job of staying alive as Watergate

progressed and even after.

Dean obviously knows much more about the lawlessness of the Nixon administration and

GOP than he has told so far.

We have a long way to go as a nation in even acknowledging the political violence by

the right-wing over the past 45 years -- and maybe more.

When you come to terms with realizing that these are people who as one author noted

would as quickly kill you as look at you, then you aren't going to question very much

whether Wellstone was simply another of their victims.

After finding information about investigations of very early election steals going back

into the mid-1960s http://www.constitution.org/vote/votescam__.htm, I now even question

the Nixon win vs Humphrey. And reflect that it is only since 2000 that Americans even

began to become aware of the possibilities for hacking the electronic voting machines!

And in larger blocks of votes than ever thought possible before and over greater distances.

The journalists passed the results of their investigation onto Larry O'Brien at the DNC

just prior to the Watergate break-ins.

It's now 2009 and I'm not sure how much of the public truly gets the picture --???

[merh]

84. A "secret pardon" would be like a grant of immunity. He would be

free to talk about everything he knows and not be worried about prosecution for his actions during the GWB admin. BUT, it would not insulate him from prosecution if he does not cooperate with the investigation, if he obstructs justice and if he is found in contempt of this congressional investigation or if he lies to congress.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

34. Woo Hoo!!!!

Wouldn't it be GREAT to get Rove--and free Siegelman?

[8 track mind]

35. Yesssssss!!!!

Can't hide now can ya!!! Who ya gonna run to now you little nazi?

[Jefferson23]

36. Rove in an orange suit, oh please let this happen.

[jeff30997]

74. Oh yeah ! In the meantime I'll continue to watch this pic:

:evilgrin:

[Jefferson23]

75. LOL, that will do for now, thanks!

[lonestarnot]

37. Hmmmf.

[quidam56]

38. Lush Limp-dick and the Mannity will be appalled by this !

It's going to be fun watching Fake Noise. They are a hoot ! http://www.wisecountyissues.com STOP THE BOMBING APPALACHIA, it's TOXIC TERRORISM. Hannity's America sure ain't My America. Hope Turdblossom is on his way to prison.

[DFW]

40. Rove doesn't have a self-appointed Attorney General to cover his ample ass any more

Defying a subpoena from Congress isn't going to be quite as simple from now on.

He can still do it, of course, but if he does, he'll have to come up with some real justification and pay some real legal bills for the stalling. If he carries a one-way ticket to Dubai in his coat pocket, I'd confiscate his passport(s) like now.

[Joe Chi Minh]

42. I wonder if he and the others will also be charged with failing to comply

with the earlier subpoenas. I expect it's a serious offence. Why would they be covered by an executive order in such an act of flagrant defiance?

[Politicalboi]

47. But neither do we

[davefromqueens]

41. If Rove doesn't show up

you issue a warrant for his arrest.

Start picking them off one at a time.

Work your way from Rove to Bush.

[bluesmail]

43. I'm taking the day off to watch. I am soo looking forward to

watching. I hope he doesn't get away, i.e. flee to Dubai.

[Piewhacket]

44. Frog March that SOB into the hearing room!

The subpoena delegates authority to US marshals to enforce, like any Congressional subpoena.

[ejbr]

45. OH PLEASE!!!

"We should look forward rather than backward." :sarcasm:

[Jackpine Radical]

53. No sarasm needed--it is most certainly time to look forward...

forward to the prosecution and imprisonment of the entire Bush Administration.

[cascadiance]

48. Hmm... How soon before we hear both Rove and Cheney with jobs at Haliburton in Dubai?...

I think the last time that Rove got subpoenaed he'd already floated this trial balloon of being outside of the country then...

[Jackpine Radical]

54. His trial balloon picked up some leaks on Jan 20.

[verges]

70. Frankly,

I'm surprised they haven't left the country already.

[freeradicalm]

50. What do you call a "Rove Indictment?"

:kick: A Damn Good Start! :bounce: :toast: :bounce:

[LynneSin]

51. ho-hum, I guess Obama isn't going to do anything as president - no different than McCain.....

NOT

Seriously, I get so sick and tired of the complaining that Obama isn't going to do anything and well, looks like he came out with both barrels loaded the day after he was sworn in.

Glad I voted for Obama!!

[BartMang]

52. Owned

Eat it, Rove.

[L. Coyote]

56. Can FIXED News Cub Reporter Face Off Conyers, Obama and the US DOJ?

I'll place my bets with the US Marshals and the Harvard scholar! :rofl:

[tekisui]

58. It's not over. Nail his ass.

[FunMe]

59. Conyers moment of truth

OK, so one of those damn letters, I mean subponae, is going out. Well la dee da, color me not impressed.

Until I see Rove being asked hard-hitting questions and charged with something, then I will jump up and down. Otherwise more DOG AND PONY show from Conyers.

[madrchsod]

60. if conyers asks maybe the new attorney general will release the libby grand jury

testimony and Fitzgerald's notes to his committee...would`t that be nice.

[ronnykmarshall]

61. Tee-hee!

Let's sit back and see how this plays out.

[chknltl]

62. Maybe DU can form a posse and go round the rascal up.

Imagine the press we would get! In yer face free republic!

(Yes I am being snarky.... I do recall that there was an unsuccessful attempt to citizens arrest him not to long ago. I don't know how legal such an arrest would be but the guy who could manage to pull it off would become an even bigger a hero than the guy who threw those shoes at bush!)

[MasonJar]

65. Jonathan Turley just said on Countdown that Obama now says there is no executive

privilege. If Rove has to testify, he will just lie. The Bushista has made a business out of lying to Congress.

[Enrique]

67. so perjury

without Bush to commute his sentence.

[defendandprotect]

83. Probably . .. however, Rove has to worry about those lost e-mails surfacing . .. !!! Perjury-!!

So, I'm of the opinion that they'll make sure he doesn't testify one way

or the other!

[Hulk]

66. Arrest and lock him up if he doesn't show....like is supposed to happen!

The SOB can't hide behind the monkey's skirt any longer. Subpoenae him, and if he doesn't come, send the Sergeant at Arms to arrest his fat ass!

[GreenTea]

69. Let's see what happens when the little fascist bastard Rove doesn't have the Bush administration to

hide behind....Let's see Rove NOT show up for court now...

[curiousdemo]

71. Bush is gone Rove!!!

He nor Fox Noise can protect your punk ass!!!!

[Odin2005]

73. Turdblossom needs to rot in a jail cell.

[lenegal]

76. No Georgie to hide behind any more.

I hope this fat evil man is placed in the deepest recesses of a prison ce..

[harmonicon]

77. well, I hope Conyers follows through on this

He could/should have before, but didn't. Now he has no excuse.

[defendandprotect]

80. Love that Conyers covers firing of AGs and Don Siegelman case . . .

If there were any chance, however, that Rove would crack -- they'd quickly throw

him off a cliff.

So expect to see either prevention of his appearance . . . or maybe a coma?

Edited for ...

PS: What could be more frightening to Democrats than what they actually did to

Don Siegelman!

[chill_wind]

81. I can't recall. Not that I was aware. I will have to get back to you in writing

on that. I will have to check my notes and get back to you, Senator.
Unfortunately Senator, that email in question was among those lost and I can't answer.


I have no memory of that. Not to my knowledge. I can't recall. I can't recall. I can't recall. I can't recall. I can't recall. I can't recall...."

[Duer 157099]

86. Nailed it. He'll use the famous Gonzo defense

"I cannot recall" blah blah blah.

Why wouldn't he?

[liberal N proud]

87. Is Rove still in the country?

[proud2BlibKansan]

89. And this will lead to yet another strongly worded letter

BFD