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CHIMO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:49 PM Original message |
Obama will use spring summit to bring Cuba in from the cold |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. There has never been any good reason for an embargo. |
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andyrowe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Not quite true. |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 09:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Well, yeah, that was kind of dumb. But if we hadn't had the embargo, |
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Hulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Right...and the chimp wanted to do the very same to Russia last year... |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. Seconded! |
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cosmicone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 11:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. It is not |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Yeah and that had nothing to do with our attempt to overthow their government.. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:26 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Why are some staggering fools unable to realize that missile crisis came AFTER the invasion of Cuba |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:43 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. It's like the Bay of Pigs never happened |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:29 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Chicken and egg. It's hard to say who started the hostilities. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. A tiny island which could be vaporized in the blink of an eye, or an ENORMOUS |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
64. While what you say is true, it speaks to the reason the Cubans went along with Krushchev's deal |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 06:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Not exactly. Our government punished Castro for not handing over Cuba |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
19. We did the same damn thing in Turkey before the Soviets setup missiles in Cuba |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
65. By the time of the Cuban missile crisis, the Turkish missiles were obsolete. |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 06:04 AM Response to Reply #4 |
22. Right after the Bay of Pigs |
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Jambalaya (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #22 |
33. CIA and Cuba |
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espiral (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
12. re: Rabrrrrrr |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:30 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Most Americans have no idea how evil Bautista was. |
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espiral (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:41 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. re: Critters2 |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 06:48 AM Response to Reply #14 |
25. Batista is irrelevant - replacing evil with evil lite, while an improvement, |
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ngant17 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 08:24 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. your model assumes all men shall become angels in a revolution |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. My model assumes nothing about replacements. I merely point out the truth. |
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ngant17 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I'd say the Cuban people have already done the judging for you |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Don't indulge in disinformation. Cubans used to come and go to the U.S. themselves, |
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espiral (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. re: Rabrrrrrr |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Perhaps a cage is to your liking. |
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espiral (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. re: Rabrrrrrr |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 04:07 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. It's great reading your cooments, espiral. It clearly sounds as if you're aware of life in Cuba. |
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espiral (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:47 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. re: Judi Lynn |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 07:03 AM Response to Reply #43 |
62. "give me a government and a society in which I have choices" |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. These same experts never acknowledge Batista and his death squads tortured |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Thanks for the info. Many of the atrocities attributed to the Revolution were actually.. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 04:04 AM Response to Reply #41 |
50. Now that's very interesting. I recall hearing of their torture of their prisoners in the |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. LIFT THE EMBARGO! |
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Skink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
3. Cruise lines are salivating over this. |
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ngant17 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 08:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
28. I wouldn't be too sure of that |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 08:05 AM Response to Reply #3 |
56. Actually the cruise industry lobbies hard against lifting the sanctions on Cuba. |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
5. But, Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D?-FL) and her Miami Republican pals don't approve. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. The US govt needs to stop catering to the Cuban exiles. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 06:17 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. The older generation were going to their reward and Miami |
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Eryemil (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
44. These fossils are dropping life flies |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Right. But new wingers have come in from Venezuela |
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Eryemil (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Well, I don't live there anymore so I only know what my mother tells me |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. The oligarchs that came from Venezuela are every bit as virulent. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 04:33 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. They are as thick as thieves now. Their great bonding seemed to start early in Bush's reign. |
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Jambalaya (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
34. Caribbean Finance Center |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
7. In the meantime, disobey. |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
20. This is good a start |
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rollingrock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 02:54 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. The embargo itself is a human rights abuse |
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blackbart99 (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 07:11 AM Response to Original message |
26. Its time to bring them in from the cold......war. |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
29. Let's all start planning our next vacations--to Cuba! |
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Theory5 (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
30. finally |
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Jambalaya (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
31. Con muchas gracias |
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Jambalaya (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Cold War is "Hot" again? |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
36. It's a start--maybe. |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
48. democratic nonsense |
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Ure Kismet (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:34 AM Response to Reply #48 |
55. re democratic nonsense |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Outstanding post. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Tremendous first post, Ure Kismet! Great truth-based comments. |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:10 AM Response to Original message |
53. Kick |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
57. Great news. This article hints at bigger changes in the works for US-Cuba relations |
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rabs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
60. Defense ministers of 12 Latam nations meeting in Santiago |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:39 AM Response to Original message |
61. What a load |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. The right-wing lunatics are lucky to have people who, like Bush, are easily duped |
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