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ArchieStone1 (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 06:41 PM Original message |
Obama Sides With RIAA, Supports $150,000 Fine per Music Track |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. RIAA is crap. I'm sorry to see Obama supporting it. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. He's been 'for' this all along. nt |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Biden has been in the RIAA/MPAA pocket for years as well |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Agreed. I expect very little from the Obama adminstration on this front |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
46. I actually generally support the policy but not this enforcement. nt |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
48. RIAA Is Cutting Back On Suits, Is The Irony |
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Sivafae (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #48 |
164. Well if you consider that a lot of artists are refusing to renew their contracts |
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stlsaxman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 04:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
120. Unfortunate but foreseeable that musicians need to eat, too, |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 07:48 AM Response to Reply #120 |
138. yeah BUT -- do the musicians even see a large portion of those *damages* |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 10:07 AM Response to Reply #138 |
146. Bingo! The musicians AREN'T getting their share. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #120 |
147. That is why a new distribution model is needed. The current structure stinks worse than AIG |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #147 |
148. and has stunk for a very long time. RIAA wants to be rewarded |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #148 |
187. Totally agree--Digital playback technology was available as early as |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Clear violation of the Constitution imv: that such monetary punishment does not fit the crime |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
2. RSA-encrypted torrents in 4, 3, 2... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
67. yeppers |
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ACTION BASTARD (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
171. Wait till this hits on a piratebay/old school Napster scale |
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ArchieStone1 (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. I'm with Obama on this one |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Thanks for considering the artists. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. give me a break |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. I know a fairly major musician, |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. Holy shit. |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 05:11 AM Response to Reply #31 |
124. that's the problem. nobody wants to screw the artists. but the record companies |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
50. Eminem Just Lost a Lawsuit |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 07:37 AM Response to Reply #21 |
188. I don't know a single musician who expects to make real money off of sales. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #188 |
195. these guys have no shortage of money from CD sales |
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ikojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. AMEN!! The Grateful Dead gave away their music |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
41. That makes a perverse sort of sense... Case in point: |
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bperci108 (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 10:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
74. Same with Lefty Cheerleader / Singer-songwriter David Rovics. |
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stlsaxman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 04:54 AM Response to Reply #22 |
122. that's right- music isn't worth the plastic it's printed on, The Dead RUINED it for the rest of us.. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 08:11 AM Response to Reply #122 |
139. I don't think a grateful dead concert was ever $50 |
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stlsaxman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #139 |
183. The last band i was in produced an album of music (cd's are an album). we were/are proud of it. |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Yeah, musicians don't want to get royalties for their songs, |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:47 PM Original message |
The sweater analogy is very bad for obvious reasons |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. And how many albums have you released? How much do you get from downloads? |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:05 AM Response to Reply #35 |
83. hear hear |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 10:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
203. also the "try before you buy" thing |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
47. I don't mind paying for creative content. It's like voting for someone you like. nt |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
64. Except that artists don't see any of this money that the RIAA settles for. |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #64 |
157. Steve Albini did an article years ago doing the actual math. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:26 AM Response to Reply #24 |
92. When you steal a sweater, it's gone and must be replaced |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 03:02 AM Response to Reply #92 |
109. Excellent point |
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progdonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 05:15 AM Response to Reply #24 |
126. are you a musician? |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #126 |
158. This concept of the tracks as just being an advertisement |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
85. Agree with the post above |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. how many albums do you have available for download on itunes or anywhere else? |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
37. Well said!! |
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Incitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 10:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
70. Since they don't get squat for CD sales, anyway, online downloading |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #70 |
159. I thought Radiohead only released a low quality version their songs? |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #70 |
178. Exactly..They might get $0.5 per cd sold... |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:18 AM Response to Reply #12 |
89. I am with you on this |
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percussivemadness (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
172. why do Americans say "I could care less" |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #172 |
179. don't know. I think it's supposed to be |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. But the problem is that the artists will get little or nothing out of this. |
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fedupinBushcountry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
63. John Mellencamp on the Music Business |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
153. Most of the money goes to the record company |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #4 |
204. I don't think that is what is at issue at all. |
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NWHarkness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. $150,000 fine |
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960 (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
53. Amen to that! How ridiculous is this??? |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
95. The fine isn't just for the one download. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 02:57 AM Response to Reply #95 |
108. They're targeting torrents and filesharing in general |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 07:35 AM Response to Reply #108 |
135. The cases I've seen (and the supporting evidence) |
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Sivafae (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #135 |
165. Thank you for clarifying that point. However, it doesn't stop it from being free exposure. |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #165 |
173. But it is up to the artist (or RIAA as the artists' agent) |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #173 |
186. You know what they say, you can die from exposure. |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
6. My guess is |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. That is pure bullshit! |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:14 AM Response to Reply #18 |
86. I'm innocent and I have |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 11:16 AM Response to Reply #86 |
205. The fact that no innocent person has ever been tried for something they didn't do relieves me. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
36. The record companies engage in practices that could arguably be called 'stealing' too. |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
56. ding! |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:16 AM Response to Reply #56 |
88. I'm not lecturing anyone |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #88 |
143. sorry I was unclear |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:15 AM Response to Reply #36 |
87. I can't speak for them |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
97. Actually, that isn't true. |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 08:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
141. Good for you. Stealing is wrong. |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
9. I would have been blown away if he would have supported free file swapping |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. That's not the same as supporting draconian penalties for little guys |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
23. Well for one he just put a $150,000 bounty on nearly every one of his younger supporters... |
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espiral (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 10:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
65. re: |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 07:12 AM Response to Reply #65 |
133. If he wants to be re-elected in 2012, he better care |
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espiral (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #133 |
161. exactly |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
160. Exactly. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
39. Nothing, and would lose a lot more. |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:06 AM Response to Reply #39 |
84. I'd buy a lot more CDs if they weren't 17 bucks. |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:19 AM Response to Reply #84 |
90. new |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 04:21 AM Response to Reply #90 |
118. (ugh) |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #90 |
149. No, but i'll give it a lot more thought before I buy a car |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #90 |
151. Don't know... |
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B3Nut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #84 |
152. I'd buy a lot more CD's if the sound quality wasn't squashed to hell. |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #152 |
154. The compression depends on the sound |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
10. The ability to track data transfers |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
11. CHANGE! n/t |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
15. I am saddened to see the Obama Administration take the same stand that the Bush Administration had. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. And the Clinton Administration...this shit all stems from the DMCA |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. The DMCA is a real fuckup. |
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Sivafae (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
166. Sounds like we need Torte reform! |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #166 |
184. are you making little cakes? nt |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #33 |
206. Agreed the DMCA needs to be repealed n/t |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
42. With luck, President Obama will do something about that too. Stealing can happen by either side. |
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espiral (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 10:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
66. re: |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 03:41 AM Response to Reply #66 |
111. Your a little peach ain't ya? n/t |
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espiral (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #111 |
162. realism ftw n/t |
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170. Deleted message |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
16. Fuck the RIAA and their bully tactics! |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
17. The justice department is overflowing with RIAA/MPAA/BSA hacks |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
25. death to song writers and recording artists! long live file stealing...ooops sharing and btw... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. If you'd read the economic analyses- rather than reacting emotionally |
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digidigido (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 11:41 PM Response to Reply #30 |
76. Right, and war is peace, sorry my little entitled teen ager who grew up stealing music |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 12:37 AM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Don't take my word for it- read it for yourself |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:02 AM Response to Reply #76 |
82. Your argument is as silly as every past argument the RIAA made... |
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digidigido (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:23 AM Response to Reply #82 |
91. That is either ignorant or disingenuous. Tape degrades, analog copies are inferior to their masters |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 02:46 AM Response to Reply #91 |
107. Your argument is now that downloaded MP3's are as high a quality as original CD's? |
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DaDeacon (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 09:41 AM Response to Reply #91 |
144. Wow, being that wrong has to take work! |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #91 |
185. Abbie Hoffman Would Steal This Post! You Should Too! |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #25 |
199. Copyright infringement is not the same as theft of physical property. |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
28. The more things change.... n/t |
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ChromeFoundry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
29. The RIAAs sole purpose is to protect |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. The artists do the actual work. |
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ChromeFoundry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. I just cannot see a $750 - $150K fine per track |
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strategery blunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
32. Because a 2.25M fine for ripping a 15-track album |
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cadmium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
38. oh no!!! lets not slit our wrists. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I'd be kinkier if you licked our wrists instead. |
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cadmium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
175. ha ha. n/t |
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ArcticFox (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
43. Hearkening back to 1790, they should limit the term to 14 years |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #43 |
61. great idea |
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digidigido (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:45 AM Response to Reply #43 |
96. What do you think life expectancy was in 1790? |
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ArcticFox (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #96 |
168. And the point? |
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Jkid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
44. Easy Solution: Restrict Copyright to 10 years. Decriminalize Non-Profit Copyright Infringement |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. It's sad; thanks to youtube I bought a lot of CDs... |
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digidigido (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:46 AM Response to Reply #44 |
98. and fuck the artist too, whether you know it or not |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 08:58 AM Response to Reply #98 |
142. That certainly seems to be your approach. |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
51. The artists are fighting back |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:49 AM Original message |
You said it - that's the key to survival in the music business these days - embrace the technology |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 05:22 AM Response to Reply #51 |
127. the people at the top of the business seem to be against any music sharing |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 09:33 AM Response to Reply #127 |
189. It's Mostly the Legal Department |
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caseycoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
52. YUCK! K&R n/t |
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960 (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
54. Where's Frenchiecat telling us why this is the right thing to do? |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #54 |
73. Wait for it. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 12:02 AM Response to Reply #54 |
77. She's busy shutting down discussion in GD: P right now. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 09:38 AM Response to Reply #77 |
190. She can't bully anyone smart enough to ignore her existence! |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 07:25 AM Response to Reply #54 |
134. Uh-oh |
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antimatter98 (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
55. Obama = BushCo folks. More of the same. n/t |
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trthnd4jstc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
57. As a small business owner, I hate seeing people stealing content. It takes a lot of money and time |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. what is being stolen? information? bits and bytes? |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
58. obama used the internet to his advantage |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
59. What's wrong w/the admin. taking the side of the law? It's copyright infringement, right? |
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GoesTo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
60. What, no prison time? |
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ozu (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
68. Shocking |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
69. Oh YES!!! This is sooooooooooooo much more important |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #69 |
200. HEAR HEAR! |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
71. so its a bigger crime to steal a song than to rape a kid? |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
72. Corporatism is NOT what I voted for. n/t |
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ForrestGump (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #72 |
193. Well, it is what *I* voted for. |
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Ed76638 (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
75. ASS!!!!! |
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evilkumquat (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
78. Yeah, Courtney Love Sucks, But... |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 02:03 AM Response to Reply #78 |
102. Doesn't suck IMO (ok, maybe personally - but personally only) |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
79. I want artists to get paid and consumers to be served, and $750 per 99 cent song is too much. |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
81. Looks like tons of user are fucked |
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dave_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:31 AM Response to Original message |
93. Fuck copyright. Rip everything |
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digidigido (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:48 AM Response to Reply #93 |
99. Just what is it YOU do for a living? How would you like it if I said I don't think I'll pay you for |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
94. Boycott ALL musicians who side with the RIAA!!! |
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digidigido (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:49 AM Response to Reply #94 |
100. Oh Grow Up |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 02:26 AM Response to Reply #100 |
105. Dude - if you like it, you'll buy it cause you want to support the artist - NOT cause |
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merwin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 06:53 AM Response to Reply #105 |
130. If you want to support the artist, go to their concerts. Artists make next to nothing |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 07:39 AM Response to Reply #130 |
136. Excellent point merwin |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #100 |
194. It's not a case of valuing their work or not. The fact is that artists are not being failry... |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 02:02 AM Response to Reply #94 |
101. They've got to realize the RIAA is often no more their friend than the downloaders |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 02:31 AM Response to Reply #101 |
106. Indeed |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #106 |
163. Yes, I ALWAYS pay for music |
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pop goes the weasel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
103. fine, then |
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jeff30997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 03:11 AM Response to Reply #103 |
110. I wanted to say: screw the RIAA... |
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TheModernTerrorist (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 02:20 AM Response to Original message |
104. its true |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 03:43 AM Response to Original message |
112. CBO estimates that implementing the bill would cost $435 million over the 2009-2013 period |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 03:45 AM Response to Original message |
113. Think we could protect the Constitution better if we put it on cd? |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 03:59 AM Response to Original message |
114. I would like to see him protect something besides the corporations |
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dcindian (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 04:00 AM Response to Original message |
115. How about supporting jail time for a war criminal? |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 04:00 AM Response to Original message |
116. I would support a $2 fine per track... that would 100% of the cost |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 04:37 AM Response to Reply #116 |
119. You will pay what we tell you to! |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 06:32 AM Response to Reply #119 |
129. You are right-- plus their are Constitutional questions here as well |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 07:42 AM Response to Reply #129 |
137. Indeed |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #129 |
201. so do you think $150K damages award would violate the constitution for any copyright infringement |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 04:11 AM Response to Original message |
117. sheesh. ok, we got those evil music downloaders, what about war criminals? |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 04:48 AM Response to Original message |
121. If they don't issue large fines, how will Obama & Biden get their cuts from the RIAA? |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 04:58 AM Response to Original message |
123. Where is the humanity in this kind of thinking? |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 05:12 AM Response to Original message |
125. Easiest solution |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 06:27 AM Response to Original message |
128. So damages are only excessive when it's the rich and corporations getting hit with them? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 07:11 AM Response to Reply #128 |
132. name me one instance where a corp was assessed three times their income in damages. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #132 |
155. I think you missed my point. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
131. go after the criminal Bush for Christ's sake!! |
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ArchieStone1 (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #131 |
140. 5 torture victims filed a lawsuit |
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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #140 |
176. What if |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
145. Thank goodness for Netlabels, the Creative Commons and all those music blogs! |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 11:09 AM Response to Reply #145 |
150. I believe what you say is true and the RIAA has been stinking for a very long time. |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
156. I think we'll see more strong bold stands like this |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #156 |
167. This is not bold... |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #167 |
181. exactly. he is wrong on this |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #181 |
198. actually, the administration is exactly right in what they wrote in their brief |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
169. I wonder |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
174. Deleted message |
and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
177. RIAA is bullshit... |
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
182. Fuck the RIAA! |
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ForrestGump (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
191. $150 000? That's ridiculous. |
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ForrestGump (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
192. I can't support the RIAA. |
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GReedDiamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
196. Some background on the RIAA... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
197. what an outrageously, ridiculously misleading headline |
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TheModernTerrorist (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 04:17 AM Response to Original message |
202. dupe |
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