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steven johnson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 11:33 PM Original message |
Man charged with murder, drunk driving in pitcher's death |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. Young dirtbag, thinking only of himself, |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 11:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. He'll be back |
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rwenos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 11:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Maybe Not -- |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I hope so |
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rwenos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:28 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Can You Imagine What an OC Jury Will Do |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 02:10 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I don't think he's going to be looking at capital murder. |
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rwenos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 11:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
32. True, But OC Juries Run Away Sometimes n/t |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
3. Fullerton encouraged a thriving urban redevelopment based on bars |
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rwenos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 11:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. You're Forgetting the Gun Shops |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:07 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I guess the discount casket place is placed pretty appropriately |
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rwenos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:25 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I Forgot The Casket Shop |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
5. This story is enough to break your heart n/t |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
8. I saw the results of a drunk driver on Tuesday. Laid out in a casket. |
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sledgehammer (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:52 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Very sad... |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 02:39 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. I think most American families have alcoholics in them. |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 04:17 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. You bring up some very good points about alcohol's role in culture |
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sledgehammer (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
41. I lived in Continental Europe in my high school years... |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Part of it, imho, has to do with the "legal age" nonsense |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #24 |
34. interesting TG |
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sledgehammer (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 09:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. That makes sense. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 10:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. Same here. We always had a glass of wine at Sunday dinner, |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
45. Don't forget that drinking is glamorized in TV commercials and |
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sledgehammer (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. Totally agreed |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 03:26 AM Response to Reply #8 |
44. weird how it says she was "in the wrong place at the wrong time" |
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Summermoondancer (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
12. If he were an illegal immigrant the righties would be going bananas instead |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
46. That's a very good question. We should hammer |
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Summermoondancer (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Thank you I just noticed it and it struck me since whenever it is an |
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pansypoo53219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
14. the milwaukee journal-sentinal |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
37. Alcohol kills, in a variety of ways |
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Jkid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 02:04 AM Response to Original message |
15. Instead of sending his ass to prison for life. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 03:34 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. he killed 3 people and you think they should just ban him from driving ? |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 04:21 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. This guy is responsible for three deaths and was driving on a suspended license |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #15 |
27. You have got to be kidding. |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #15 |
31. one of my best friends was killed this way. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. I had a friend killed this way, and they didn't even GET any time |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #15 |
36. Unfortunately, the California prison system is buckling |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
48. He committed a crime with a deadly weapon |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
58. And no swimming for 25 years for pirates |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
59. The entire time my sister |
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Jeep789 (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 04:26 AM Response to Original message |
21. Terrible,avoidable accident but murder?? |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. We don't know that he was an alcoholic, so we don't even know that he has a "disease" |
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ardvark (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. since mid 2008, anyone getting a CA license signs that they agree that they can be charged with murd |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. That's the other egregiously bad thing about all this. |
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ardvark (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. he was driving his stepmom's minivan |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Well, life in prison will certainly prevent him from acting upon his "disease"... |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Also, he is facing life in prison for KILLING 3 PEOPLE, not drunk driving |
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ardvark (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. this is an exellent point |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Nonsense. |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #21 |
35. No, manslaughter |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
40. OMFG -- please give me a break on your "rationalizing" DWI |
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sledgehammer (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #21 |
42. At 22... |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
47. Well if a man picks up a gun or other weapon and injures or |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. No, it most certainly is not murder- and nor should it be considered such |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
50. as someone who was disabled by a drunk driver.. |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Nini that is what I was trying to say |
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sledgehammer (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Very sorry to hear that |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. I agree that irresponsible drinking is not being addressed |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
53. so then you are excusing domestic violence too |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
57. what a heartbreaking story about the up and coming LA pitcher. |
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