Marine kills himself in front of deputy

[sabra]

Source: Peoria Journal Star

PEORIA —
Believing he was stopping to assist a motorist early Friday, a Peoria County sheriff's deputy instead witnessed a man fatally shoot himself.

About 6:15 a.m. Friday, the deputy saw a car pulled onto the shoulder of southbound Illinois Route 6, just north of where it meets Interstate 74.

The driver of the car, Jacob A. Favri, 23, shot himself in the head with a handgun. Favri, 509 E. Swords Drive in Edelstein, was transported to OSF Saint Francis Medical Center. Favri was pronounced dead at 7 a.m., about 10 minutes after arriving at the hospital, Peoria County Coroner Johnna Ingersoll said.

"As (the deputy) approached the vehicle, he saw the motorist was armed," said Capt. Dave Briggs of the Sheriff's Department. "He backed off, and the driver was pointing a gun at himself. He tried to make verbal contact with the guy, but the driver shot himself."

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Based on information from Favri's mother, Ingersoll said Favri was an active member of the U.S. Marines and was scheduled to be serving in Iraq. But Favri remained in central Illinois for a jury trial, scheduled to begin June 15, in which he faced charges of aggravated battery and mob action. He originally was scheduled to appear in Peoria County Circuit Court on Friday morning.

Read more: http://www.pjstar.com/news_police/x124616266/Deputy-witnesses-Edelstein-man-shoot-himself

[UrbScotty]

1. Uggggggggggggggggggggggh (nt)

[babylonsister]

2. Horrid for so many reasons. RIP. nt

[IndianaGreen]

3. I'll like to know what Favri's service record was.

The article doesn't mention if this Marine had served before in combat, only that he was about to be deployed. People don't shoot themselves in the head unless they are having a very difficult time coping.

[kristopher]

8. Ya think??? nt

[MADem]

25. He was due to go on trial next week for aggravated battery and mob action.

He stabbed a guy with a knife. He had his license taken away for a DUI last Nov, too.

His life was fraught with difficulty. I found some info and an obit, I posted that below.

[WriteDown]

26. Or unless they have an assault trial?

:shrug:

[No Elephants]

28. More likely the assault was simply another symptom of the core problem, not the cause of his suicide

[WriteDown]

29. Why is that more likely?

The great # of assault charges are against people who have never served in the military. Of course that # may change if we rule out NBA and NFL players. :rofl:

[Thrill]

4. It appears these young men are still not getting the help they need

That needs to change

[EFerrari]

5. 23 years old. When I was 23, I hadn't even tasted brandy yet.

We have to stop this somehow.

[Titonwan]

13. Yeah, well, If Brandy said you could, it'd be different.

But she just wasn't that in to you. :)

[Liberal_in_LA]

34. lol. you are bad

[lovuian]

6. Our CHILDREN are being waterboardered and tortured and

raped in the military

they are being programmed and the mental programming they have been through is causing mass suicide

the Military better wake up that their killing their own men

Iraq is horrible afghanistan is horrible

they would rather die than be part of this agenda

so very sad

[pasto76]

9. the programming is that it is not ok to say I need help.

it is not ok to provide that help. The programming that says quite frankly you are inferior if you require mental healthcare on any level.

[peacetalksforall]

21. Funny, I was just thinking about soldier programming this morning not long after

waking. I was feeling really sad thinking about nothing ending. All the things that drove me crazy from an ethical standpoint for a nation during the last nine years (and since JFK MLK RFK) were waying heavy on me as I woke up. I don't know what I drempt or read yesterday. But it is dawining on me that I have no idea what Obama's plan is. The evidence and escalation is driving me insane. An embassy bigger than the one in Baghdad. No mention of the other prisons. Torture continuing. Telling us that it is going to stop torturing in Guantanamo, but not in all the other prisons? I am feeling so sick. These poor children.

Save the fetuses so they can be slaughtered by foreigners and themselves. I don't get it. I'm not getting any of it. I'll be glad to listen to someone explain the strategy.

We are victims of people who get rich from war. They brainwash the public as well as the soldiers. Raise your kids so we can use the males and use and rape the females.

The people are supposed to lead the nation in ethics, but the truth is that everything that this country does is to make someone rich and powerful.

[WriteDown]

27. The streets of the US aren't too friendly either...

"Based on information from Favri's mother, Ingersoll said Favri was an active member of the U.S. Marines and was scheduled to be serving in Iraq. But Favri remained in central Illinois for a jury trial, scheduled to begin June 15, in which he faced charges of aggravated battery and mob action. He originally was scheduled to appear in Peoria County Circuit Court on Friday morning"

[Tangerine LaBamba]

7. Troubled kid -

Lost his license for DUI, was going on trial for stabbing a guy.

I think this kid probably had a whole lot of problems that were in place before he joined the Marines........................

[Joe Chi Minh]

20. Since it breaks stable people mentally, it couldn't have helped.

[MADem]

10. He stabbed a guy. In a bar fight. Haven't found anything on his length of service yet.

Feuchter said that when he left the bar, he found the group waiting outside for him. He fought a total of three males, who ran behind the bar after the attack, police reports stated. Feuchter was taken to Proctor Hospital, where he was treated and released.

Shortly after their arrival, police arrested Jacob Favri 23, of 509 E. Swords Drive on charges of aggravated battery with a knife and mob action with injury. Two others involved in the fight have not been arrested.

Favri never denied being in a fight and told police it was Feuchter who attacked him and his friends. The knife, he added, was used to defend himself.
http://www.pjstar.com/archive/x1260947860/Edelstein-man-arrested-in-stabbing-at-Crusens

[MrMickeysMom]

11. Driven to the brink of insanity...

... Thy name is war... brought to you by the likes of Dick Cheney.

(I love your animated cat icon!)

[MADem]

12. It could be. Or it could be he's never been to war and was mentally ill.

Or maybe he's in trouble with a gang and they threatened him.

No way of knowing until they release more info. It's quite possible he's done at least one tour though, at his age. Particularly if he joined shortly after HS. There's no rank associated with his status, so it's unclear if he signed up for the USMC (and his mother got the "active" bit wrong, and he was actually in Delayed Entry Program) and hasn't shipped yet, or he finished boot camp and was home on his two week leave, or what.


http://www.pjstar.com/homepage/x124616266/Deputy-witnesses-Edelstein-man-shoot-himself
This sentence just jumps out at me, for what it doesn't say: Based on information from Favri's mother, Ingersoll said Favri was an active member of the U.S. Marines and was scheduled to be serving in Iraq.

I am wondering if he was in DEP, ready to ship, got in trouble, and his recruiter told him that he was going to be discharged from DEP at the convenience of the government because of the civilian charges (which were pretty serious) against him.

I don't know, though. Something is "off" with this story.

[Stinger2]

14. It could be. Or it could be he's never been to war and was mentally ill.

If he was Mentally ill why would he be in the military?

[MADem]

17. They slip by, more than you realize. Every graduation class in every boot camp

in every service ends up doing convenience of the government discharges for mental illness--and more than one or two, oftentimes. Some people go totally off their meds and think they can manage without them, others are of a delicate nature and crack when they get to boot camp...there are a wide variety of illnesses that can cause someone to be mustered out.

Some of them even make it out to the fleet with mental issues or to their first duty station. There's a DOD process that has to be followed for any servicemember discharged within the first two years of their enlistment--it's called a "Low Quality Recruit Report" and it documents the who/what/when/where/why of the discharge of anyone who hasn't been able to complete their enlistment because they just couldn't meet standards. They also have 'em for officers, too.

It happens.

[MrMickeysMom]

22. Certainly, we needed more than the mother's comment...

... so soon after her son shoots himself to death.

Will it get more press?

Agree about what is not reported here.

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[proteus_lives]

15. Sad.

RIP.

[Tx4obama]

16. This is a serious question...

Please don't take this the wrong way...

For all the military folks that don't want to go to back Iraq (the ones that have been there before) if they have mental problems that would lead them to suicide, and some of them do, from the thought of going back ... if they were to tell their superiors that 'they were gay' .. would they be discharged from duty?
I have read where some of them have done some drastic things so that they didn't have to return, but since the Don't Ask Don't Tell policy is in effect wouldn't that be a loop hole for them to stay in the states?
Just curious.

[MADem]

18. If you "tell" that you're gay, you are processed for discharge.

That could be done very slowly, though.

And often, you'll deploy with your unit while waiting for the word that your paperwork is done.

[Tx4obama]

30. Thank you for your reply. nt

[keopeli]

19. Did you ever watch MASH? Corporal Klinger? Section 8?

That's what the military used before DADT to discharge gays from the military, saying they were mentally unfit for duty. When the American Psychiatrists stopped calling Homosexuality a mental illness in the early 1970s, the military discharge started to loose its rationale.

I would imagine it would be difficult for a soldier to get away with convincing superior officers to grant a discharge based on DADT in the middle of a losing war if they don't believe the soldier is really gay and don't want the soldier to leave. All the power is in their hands, so there really is no loophole.

[Tx4obama]

31. Thank you for your reply. nt

[MADem]

24. I don't think that was the case with this guy.

Check out the long post upthread. He was a sniper, it turns out. His MYSPACE suggests he was motivated. He had lots of motivated friends, too.

He was accepted to the rather prestigious Special Operations training (which is not easy). Who knows what happened after that? He may have washed out? Next thing you know, he's getting a DUI in November and stabbing an assistant high school football coach only a few years older than him outside a live music/bar/food venue, and being charged with aggravated battery.

His trial was going to start in what, eight days? Those charges were very serious--jail time charges--especially if he refused to rat on his friends who helped him beat that guy up.

And then, there's the question of WHY he beat up the assistant coach...?

[xchrom]

32. drinking and fighting is what there is to do in peoria.

so that's what he was brought up in.

the dui is a red light for me.

i think this was a person in serious trouble with substances -- alcohol at the very least.

combine that with marine training -- and it's a very high powered emotional/mental situation.

[gratuitous]

33. Uh oh, better produce another batch of commercials

Lots of snappy uniforms, patriotic music, voice-over telling us all what super-human men and women constitute our military. Fortunately, there's always a fresh crop of young teens waiting to have their heads filled with the mythology of the High Church of Redemptive Violence. And the U.S. military has a lot more resources to get their story out than the small batch of folks who will read a sketchy account in the Peoria Journal Star. Still, it's a nuisance to the acolytes that stories like this keep slipping out.