Anti-abortion activist accused of wielding hammer

[Bozita]

Source: Oakland Press

Anti-abortion activist accused of wielding hammer
Published: Friday, August 14, 2009

By SHAUN BYRON
Of The Oakland Press

Dan Holman’s supporters say he is a peaceful man who is passionately against abortion.

However, Auburn Hills police and Oakland County prosecutors say Holman was arrested after arming himself with a hammer against another motorist and is known to avoid criminal charges by leaving the state after arrests.

Holman, a 62-year-old Iowa resident, appeared Thursday before Oakland County Circuit Court Judge Mark Goldsmith on charges of carrying a concealed weapon and felonious assault stemming from an arrest on June 13.

He is being held on a $50,000 bond after being bound over from 52-3 District Court.

Read more: http://www.theoaklandpress.com/articles/2009/08/14/news/cops_and_courts/doc4a85272eb7f1c273060055.txt

[phantom power]

1. Err.... wielding the peaceful hammer of fetus adoring love?

:shrug:

[fascisthunter]

2. pro-life my eye

[Hulk]

3. Maybe this is the means to get these crazies off the streets?....

I know that's bull shit, but seems like the FBI are sweeping up a few crazy enough to post their sadistic intentions in public. Some butt hole was arrested for parading a sign "Death to Obama", and now this idiot with his magic hammer.

God, this nation is so full of wing nuts and total loon morons. I almost get a good feeling when I watch these idiots at town hall meetings...they are so f*cking ignorant...just simple dumb asses that have been drinking the dirty water. That housewife that doesn't even know how much money her sweetie brings home, or didn't seem too concerned about invading Iraq for no reason "cause we are always at war with somebody.." mentality. Jesus...we truly are a nation of f*cking morons and fools.

It must be the water. It couldn't have anything to do with the propaganda network or the right wing talk crazies spewing their lies and hatred 24/7??

[caseymoz]

4. If your van is covered with pictures of aborted fetuses,

It seems to me you should have a plan for what to do if you are confronted. Bloody pictures tend to get peoples' adrenaline going.

Holman doesn't strike me as very smart, but I could see somebody who is getting harassed picking up a hammer. This isn't a case of a anti-choice nut-job bringing a hammer to an abortion protest.

[truthisfreedom]

5. "pro-life" = pro-violence, every damned time.

Totally predictable.

[caseymoz]

8. Did you read the article? He was being heavily harassed by another driver.

Because his van was covered with pictures of aborted fetuses and the other driver got road rage over it. They had reason to feel threatened, so they took out what they had, a hammer.

As dimly as I look upon somebody who drives a van decorated that way, and who is arrogant enough to call it the "truth van," it is unfair to see him as being violent in this case.

[TommyO]

10. Quite frankly, I don't believe a word that these anti-abortion freaks

have said.

Do you have proof that the driver and passenger in the other vehicle did any of the things that "the missionaries" claimed?

[caseymoz]

11. I doubt anybody who drives anything called "The Truth Van."

Even so, I was taking the story as it was told, with the constant caveat that if it isn't true, none of what I said applies. I expect the basic facts to be such: 1) that he was arrested on the side of the road, not at an abortion clinic; 2) that the complaint came from somebody in a different vehicle; 3) that he was driving his "truth van" with its gory pictures all over it; 4) that he was arrested because either police saw him wielding the hammer, or there were other witnesses (I doubt it), or he admitted wielding the hammer at the scene (guaranteeing that police had to arrest him)-- while the people in the other car were smarter and admitted nothing, as they were right to do; 5) he apparently threatened, but he didn't attack anybody. Meanwhile, in many states having a hammer in your car is considered to be a concealed weapon anyway. If any of those basic facts are incorrect, I stand corrected, too.

I could believe somebody might have objected to his van enough to fly into a rage about it. That's not unbelievable. I know this beastly thing has been around for some time, and I'm quite surprised this hasn't happened before. So, not too much about the story is unbelievable. What strikes me as annoying bullshit is that his "Pre-born Mission" people take this as some kind of persecution when actually they want the right to persecute, to enforce their religion on others.

I'd like to say, the worst place to prompt a political/moral discussion is in traffic among random drivers!

Naming his van "The Truth Van" requires some numbskullery to begin with. Unlike the rest of us who drive "lying dirtbag Sedans" or "deceitful SUVs" or "Disinformation Hybrids."

[Javaman]

6. I usually steer clear of anyone who claims to be "passionate" about something

and also carries a weapon.

When morons can't get their way via screaming and yelling, they resort to the next best thing.

[caseymoz]

7. Let's be fair. A hammer is a tool you could use as a weapon.

He grabbed it because it's what he had available after somebody got into his face. He wasn't at a protest and didn't raise it to coerce or threaten. He took it out because he was being threatened by a driver.

Again, it just isn't too smart to put gory pictures all over your vehicle. But this is not a matter of some anti-choice nut threatening a pro-choicer. This is not another Mark Tiller. This is somebody who got threatened and grabbed what was at hand to defend himself.

As much as I expect another anti-choice nut to explode soon, this isn't him.

[kmlisle]

9. read the whole article

And you will find that the prosecution has other evidence that this guy and his organization are capable of mayhem. he also had an arrest record with convictions - old but they are being subpoenaed.

[caseymoz]

12. Yes, I did see that. And he won't condemn Dr. Tiller's murderer either.

No, I don't have any respect for the guy and his organization. However, I don't see the blatant hypocrisy in this particular incident, at least, not unless other facts come to light.