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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:33 PM
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UN Says New Currency Is Needed to Fix Broken ‘Confidence Game’
Source: Bloomberg

UN Says New Currency Is Needed to Fix Broken ‘Confidence Game’
By Jonathan Tirone

Sept. 7 (Bloomberg) -- The dollar’s role in international trade should be reduced by establishing a new currency to protect emerging markets from the “confidence game” of financial speculation, the United Nations said.

UN countries should agree on the creation of a global reserve bank to issue the currency and to monitor the national exchange rates of its members, the Geneva-based UN Conference on Trade and Development said today in a report.

China, India, Brazil and Russia this year called for a replacement to the dollar as the main reserve currency after the financial crisis sparked by the collapse of the U.S. mortgage market led to the worst global recession since World War II. China, the world’s largest holder of dollar reserves, said a supranational currency such as the International Monetary Fund’s special drawing rights, or SDRs, may add stability.

“There’s a much better chance of achieving a stable pattern of exchange rates in a multilaterally-agreed framework for exchange-rate management,” Heiner Flassbeck, co-author of the report and a UNCTAD director, said in an interview from Geneva. “An initiative equivalent to Bretton Woods or the European Monetary System is needed.”

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=aSp9VoPeHquI



The discussion on "a new financial world order" was already on the agenda at the G20 in London this spring - but swept under the rug at the time.
The ever-increasing US debt auctions surely serve to keep this issue alive.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:33 PM
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1. Two thoughts on the issue, probably:
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:36 PM
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2. hmm how did I miss the first one - gonna delete my OP
thanks!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:37 PM
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3. Please don't. You're ok.
The same article can be in different forums; I was just indolent and didn't want to retype everything... :blush:
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:41 PM
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5. oh yeah, I see it's in GD
where it's likely to draw more replies :-)

I'll leave this one up then.

:hi:
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:40 PM
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4. Hush!
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 05:49 PM by Ghost Dog
:smoke:

Edit: (eg.): Thursday, September 3, 2009
CHINA AND THE BUZZ OF A PENDING BANK DEFAULT

Let’s put the pieces together here. Just this past weekend China announced that State Owned Enterprises (SOEs) will be allowed to default on commodity derivative contracts. Think of that. China has given the green light and authorized the defaulting on commodity derivative contracts.

This story broke over the weekend but has not gotten much mainstream media attention on this side of the pond. (North America). The only inference to it was the talk or “buzz” on the Wall Street floor that another bank was rumored to be close to defaulting. As Art Cashin of UBS Securities indicated in the video clip I posted earlier, normally when a market sells off on a rumor and the rumor turns out to be false, the market will tend to correct itself. IT DIDN’T.

The Reuters report cited 6 foreign banks that received letters indicating that the Chinese State Owned Enterprises would be given the green light to default on their derivatives.

A look at what a derivative actually is may be useful here. A Derivative is a financial instrument that is derived from some other underlying asset, index, event, value or condition. Rather than trade or exchange the underlying itself, derivative traders enter into an agreement to exchange cash or assets over time based on the underlying. A simple example is a futures contract: an agreement to exchange the underlying asset at a future date. Commercial and investment banks make up the foundation of the over the counter (OTC) derivatives market. Investors use derivatives to protect against risks, such as sudden changes in price or value of the underlying asset. Others tap derivatives to take on extra risk, in the hope of extra gains.

Well China owns billions of these products and it has finally come to light they have had enough of having the value of their derivatives manipulated by the manipulation of the price of the underlying asset. They have finally woken up to the fact that these derivatives have been bundled together like junk in a manner that resembles the mortgage backed derivatives that brought down the world markets last year.

Back to Reuters. Some of the State Owned Enterprises that stated their potential intentions to default were Air China. China Eastern and Cosco. Mainly in part because they took major derivatives losses over the past year but also, concerns are arising that the derivatives that they were sold by these foreign institutions are garbage, underwater and may never see the light of day. So why continue to pay for them? So the concern in the financial world is that holders of these losing products may just walk away, not unlike a home owner with a $600,000 mortgage on a home valued at $475,000 deciding to just hand in their keys. However, read on...this has nothing to do with morgtgage backed products. This time, the concern may be over Oil.

/Continues... http://thefundamentalview.blogspot.com/2009/09/china-and-buzz-of-pending-bank-default_03.html

(And also: http://thefundamentalview.blogspot.com/2009/09/china-derivatives-threat-updated-and.html and elsewhere )
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:31 PM
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16. Interesting link you posted
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:55 PM
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6. Complete bullcrap
The correct way to fix a confidence game and restore trust is to break up the criminal rings behind it and throw the criminals in jail .

What the UN is suggesting is comparable to the NYPD breaking up a 3 Card Monty game in New York City by taking away their Dollars and replacing it with Yen while the shysters remain free.

The game just continues using the replacement currency.

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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:59 PM
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7. Yeah, but since there is no longer any "rule of law",
apparently, in the USA...
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:59 PM
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8. Sad, but true
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 06:11 PM
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11. Sad indeed.
So how do you expect the rest of us to react?

(Not sure this helps: :hug:)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 06:01 PM
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9. Different animal, same fertilizer.
Oops, I'm not so indolent after all... :)
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 06:20 PM
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12. Hi!
:hi:

Thanks for communicating. Please don't stop.
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 06:30 PM
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13. I don't think the UN or the Chinese are trying to restore confidence
in the particular game US debt is.

It's more about abandoning a table and go play somewhere else.

Of course I do agree breaking up the criminal rings would be best - but that would probably implicate much of Europe and Asia as well, so that won't happen.

Even if there is a switch from dollar to some other currency or currency basket, that won't change much in the class war...just a change in puppet master.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 06:36 PM
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14. "America" was supposed to be better than that.
Otherwise, maybe we'd be looking towards other potentially "honest" alternatives...?
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 06:11 PM
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10. Where's Glenn Beck on this issue?
Where, in fact, are all the conservative "America First" pundits? Oh, yeah, right... they're too busy fomenting domestic witch hunts to pay attention to any real threats to US "supremacy".
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 06:56 PM
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15. the UN Peso, just start printing !
the UN does not need the US's permission,
just start printing.
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digidigido Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 09:39 PM
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17. IF this happens, last winter is going to look like a picnic compared to this winter
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 02:19 PM
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18. Oh noes! A WORLD CURRENCY! That can only lead to...
The NUMBER OF THE BEAST!!!!

That number is 867-5309 btw. And the beast's name is Jenny.
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