Video Of Asheville Students Stirs Controversy ("Liberal Indoctrination Camp")

[sabra]

Source: fox carolina

City Councilman Compares Chants To Programming Hitler Youth

ASHEVILLE, N.C. -- A video that appeared on YouTube recently of Asheville students chanting "change has come" while talking about President Barack Obama has stirred up controversy.

The video features some students at Sand Hill-Veneable Elementary School during a performance about famous Americans. The entire program, which was performed in February, was 26 minutes long, but it's the last 55 seconds that are at the center of the debate.

Jan Blunt with the Buncombe County School district said that the program included skits and music about people like George Washington, Clara Bartan and Amelia Earhart. The program also included a chant about then newly-elected President Barack Obama.

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However, Asheville City Councilman Carl Mumpower, compares the chants to the programming of children in Nazi Germany.

"That event was about chanting campaign slogans," Mumpower said. "There is a difference, a big difference. That is ritual behavior and that's how you plug things into kids' heads. I'll come right out and say it. That's exactly how the Hitler youth were programed prior to World War II."

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FOX Carolina tracked down the man who posted the video on YouTube, which was titled "Liberal Indoctrination Camp," and had received more than 13,000 hits before he pulled it off the site on Tuesday afternoon.

"I only saw (and remember having access to only) the part that I posted and had no (or lazily did not take time to look for) other video by which to compare and take in context, so for that I am sorry," the poster said in a statement to FOX Carolina. "I think it is good to dialogue about the issue and have a good debate."

Blunt said that some of the parents of the students seen in the video are fearing for the safety of their children. She said that some of the teachers and parents have received hundreds of threatening e-mails and phone calls from people who call the program indoctrination.

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[Grassy Knoll]

1. I just love how Faux noise.....

can make a whole days news over something so footling !

[robo50]

17. I dont think you would LOVE it so much if you were

one of the parents of these children!

Please, Let's slap an injunction on Fox News for propagating this kind of violence..looks like and act of terrorism to me, to propagate violence against any American.

[Grassy Knoll]

18. Love that they are making fools of themselves..

Not that I LOVE what their hate brings, every day they insight hate and threats from what ever they oppose.EVERY DAY !!!!
Not just this story.

[LTR]

22. Well, to be fair... this isn't the FOX Agitprop Channel

It's an affiliate owned by the Meredith Corporation. They just happen to carry FOX Network programming (like "American Idol" and all that stuff).

[Grassy Knoll]

23. Good, Bring that out and expose it...

On your website or here,
Thanks

[DisgustipatedinCA]

2. "I'll come right out and say it..."

"That event was about chanting campaign slogans," Mumpower said. "There is a difference, a big difference. That is ritual behavior and that's how you plug things into kids' heads. I'll come right out and say it. That's exactly how the Hitler youth were programed prior to World War II."

Well, the Pope turned out ok....didn't he?

What a non-story they've created.

[mitchum]

5. Sounds like a fucking Baptist or other fundy church to me...

"That is ritual behavior and that's how you plug things into kids' heads. I'll come right out and say it. That's exactly how the Hitler youth were programed prior to World War II."

Something tells me that Mumpower would disagree with that, though

[daleo]

12. Another famous chant

USA! USA! USA!

I bet mumpower doesn't mind tath one.

[Arkana]

26. What about "Drill, baby, drill!" ?

[amandabeech]

19. "Well, the Pope turned out ok....didn't he?"

A lot of people think that, in fact, the Pope did not turn out okay.

[Arkana]

27. Being able to shoot Force Lightning from his fingertips would be an indication

that no, he did not.

[Turbineguy]

3. The insult implicit.

I'm pretty sure it did not take a mere 55 seconds to program the Hitler Youth.

But a Fox News audience might believe it because of how stupid they are.

[zonkers]

21. It was a forgettable grade school play about "doing your best".Now its the latest calculated act of

brainwashing. We must guard against the insidious socialist conspiracy of self improvement, education and tolerance often associated with Obamaism.

[WriteDown]

4. Off topic..

I used to date a girl at UNC-A for a while. Beautiful country. Hard to sneak into the dorms though :).

[onehandle]

6. I'd rather have them chanting 'Republicans are assholes.'

Think that would get Faux's attention?

[fascisthunter]

7. FOx News= Spewing Hate Propaganda

dividing America, and destroying lives, and hoping many on the left get killed as a result. Sounds like Murdoch wants to create a 4th Reich right here in the USA.

Call us what you want, but you righties own the word nazi.

[McCamy Taylor]

8. In some states it is a crime to photo or video other folks kids. Because of the risk

that criminals will target them.

Someone should check to see if this guy...and Fox News...have broken the law.

[Hubert H. Hubert]

9. I'll come right out and say it.

I think your name would make a highly amusing chant.

Mumpower Mumpower Mumpower Mumpower Mumpower Mumpower Mumpower Mumpower Mumpower Mumpower


Don't say it too much, though - you might become indoctrinated into the Nazi Republican Party.

[bertman]

10. "teachers and parents have received hundreds of threatening emails and phone calls". . .

Those emails and calls should be investigated and charges should be filed if these Republican fascist assholes are threatening anyone.

[pattmarty]

11. Hows about we just say "fuck you" and then turn around and ignore these ass holes?

[JonQ]

13. These stories make my skin squirm

children should be taught, if anything, skepticism of politicians rather than loyalty.

I think our democracy will be harmed far less by an excess of skepticism rather than a dearth.

[Robb]

14. Jon Stewart's response was excellent

...pointing out Laura Bush singing the praises of FEMA and GWB with dozens of NOLA schoolchildren post-Katrina. :eyes:

Edited to add: http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/17/katrina-song/

[amandabeech]

20. Not a good idea there, either. n/t

[santamargarita]

15. Remember the cardboard cut-outs of that Goddamn Bush...

and the Jesus Camp indoctrinations?

[JackRiddler]

16. There is a DAILY moment of totalitarian indoctrination at almost EVERY school...

in which children are forced to recite a pledge to a piece of cloth that any fool can wave.

[Odin2005]

24. Pure projection.

[gauguin57]

25. I went to liberal indoctrination camp, myself. It was called My Mother.

Who taught me to do things for other people. To treat people like I'd like to be treated. To respect other people's differences (my mother was the daughter of immigrants and had her share of feeling different). To help out people who were struggling. To be a good citizen.

Yep. She gave me a liberal indoctrination, but good. And I'll always love her for it.

[marshall]

28. People should use great caution when posting videos of their children on youtube

Especially when other people's children are involved.

Are these videos just now being posted? Are people suddenly remembering the assembly last year when little Johnny and Sue "chanted" their praises to the new president? And then rushing to get it posted? Or is Fox trolling the internet for what has been up for months?

[sabra]

29. I think it's both... in this case Fox Carolina tracked down the YouTuber

who posted this. From what I gather he saw all the faux outrage over the video from last week, and said "aha" I have a 50 second snippet I can post too. And then the RWers were alerted of this video which made it's way to Fox.

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

30. When I was in school Nancy Reagan was supposed to grace us with her presence

along with the "we don't have to take our cloths off" guy. She stood us up because the secret service had to take some dictators kids to Disneyland. Prior to her scheduled visit we were coached and forced to practice stupid anti-drug chants for the grand assembly.

What is the difference?

Ironically, the only reason this was an official "Drug Free School" is because the administration had NOT finding drugs down to an exact science.