Muse tell Glenn Beck to retract endorsement

[T_i_B]

Source: Daily Telegraph

Beck, an outspoken conservative known for his caustic attacks on Barack Obama, praised a song on the band's new album The Resistance for warning against the dangers of "one world government".

Describing their music as "absolutely fantastic", Beck implied that the band members shared his concern about the centralisation of power by liberal politicians.

He repeatedly compared the lyrics of United States of Eurasia to George Orwell's anti-totalitarian novel 1984, in which the world is divided into three superstates including Eurasia.

"These guys are brilliant, they know the time that we live in. They are libertarians from England," he said on his nationally syndicated talk radio show, The Glenn Beck Program.


Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/music-news/6261191/Muse-tell-Glenn-Beck-to-retract-endorsement.html

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Clearly Beck is a man with selective hearing.

Anyway, at least Muse showed some sense. I've been into Muse from before they were even signed and their lyrics are hardly RW screeds.

[tomm2thumbs]

1. awwww - unrequited love, poor thing

probably his whole life is based on that

[T_i_B]

2. Just so you know what's Beck's blathering on about

here are the lyrics to United States of Eurasia. It's hardly an anti-Obama rant. Faux news must be getting desperate if they feel the need to distort anti-war lyrics.

MK Ultra's the best track on the new Muse CD anyway.

http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/m/muse/united_states_of_eurasia.html

You and me are the same
We don't know or care who's to blame
But we know that whoever holds the reins
Nothing will change
Our cause has gone insane

And these wars, they can't be won
And these wars, they can't be won
And do you want them to go on
And on and on
Why split these states
When there can be only one?

And must we do as we're told?
Must we do as we're told?

You and me fall in line
To be punished for unproven crimes!
And we know that there is no one we can trust;
Our ancient heroes, they are turning to dust!

And these wars, they can't be won
Does anyone know or care how they begun?
They just promise to go on
And on and on
But soon we will see
There can be only one

United States!
United States!
Of...

Eurasia!
... sia!
... sia!
... sia!

Eurasia!
... sia!
... sia!
... sia!

Eurasia!
... sia!
... sia!
... sia!

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[bc3000]

40. Everything I needed to know about Muse

I learned from Garbage Day: http://www.somethingawful.com/d/garbage-day/muse-resistance-sucks.php

[marshall]

3. Beck has gotten too big for his britches

It's amazing to me that he has the following he does--whether they're listening to him in agreement or astonished disagreement, he is a flash in the pan phenomenon for the moment. And not just in the US--it's weird that a rep for an obscure band in Britain could be listening and contemporaneoulsy call during a show and comment on something Beck said.

And his ratings situation is so paradoxical--his numbers are on the one hand sky rocketing, but on the other hand because of all the attention advertisers are pulling away. I think it's a wash for Fox at present--pulling advertisers from his show alone is not enough because of the way they sign them up. The only way to really hurt him is to pull the advertisers off Fox completely, not just off his show.

[T_i_B]

4. They aren't that obscure

Muse are a stadium rock act who've had a fair bit of commercial success.

Maybe it's a bit obscure for the sort of old farts who like RW commentators but then again you get the impression that such people still haven't got over the Beatles.

[walldude]

11. A stadium rock act? LOL.. yeah when they are opening for U2

Muse couldn't sell out an arena on their own let alone a "stadium". At least not yet anyway.

[rucky]

13. They currenly have the #1 album in the UK

The fastest selling debut in recent years.

[Nydari]

19. They are big everywhere but the US

They fill stadiums all over the world but have never made it big in the United States due to their non-mainstream sound and our crappy music machine.

Here is a clip of their Wembley gig which sold out two nights @ 70k people in less than an hour.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8WP7aOD_9Q

And yes, they are far and away my favorite band. :D

[GillesDeleuze]

28. the US has enough Radiohead wannabes

... but i still like muse.

great bassist.

[Nydari]

29. I don't get the Radiohead comparisons

They don't sound anything alike to me. In fact, I can't stand Radiohead at all but I love Muse.

[GillesDeleuze]

36. a few similarities

-upper register vocals
-unique compositions
-lots of effects
-similar keys and tonalities


Early Muse is like a punkrawk version of The Bends

[T_i_B]

65. Matt Bellamy's vocals...

...are quite similar to Thom Yorke's. Their first album certainly owed a bit to Radiohead but from "Origin of Symmetry" onwards they've been moving away from Radiohead.

[Devil_Fish]

61. Thanks for the clip, I ove their sound. Beats the crap out of U.S. "modern music" NT

[phleshdef]

22. Um, they have drawn crowds of well over 100,000, won 24 major music awards and released 3-4 #1...

...albums in regards to the UK charts. Maybe you should learn something about the band before you speak about them.

[LynneSin]

15. Thanks to the "Twilight" movies even the tweeners know who Muse is

They were on the "Twilight" soundtrack which was a massive hit for the movie and they are also on the "New Moon" soundtrack too.

[Le Taz Hot]

21. Woah!

". . .old farts who like RW commentators but then again you get the impression that such people still haven't got over the Beatles. " :wtf:

Just because the poster isn't peeing his/her pants over your sacred band doesn't give you the right to make assumptions and hurl insults. You gain respect by giving it, young grasshopper.

[ChadwickHenryWard]

24. They're not nearly as big in the States as they are in Europe.

I saw them in August of 2007 in Philadelphia. It was a very small venue and there were 200 people there at the most. Which, of course, made the show even better.

[countingbluecars]

5. They were a big hit at this years VMAs

http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/435684/uprising-live.jhtml


Lyrics for Uprising

Paranoia is in bloom,
The PR transmissions will resume,
They'll try to push drugs that keep us all dumbed down,
And hope that we will never see the truth around
(So come on)
Another promise, another scene,
Another packaged lie to keep us trapped in greed,
And all the green belts wrapped around our minds,
And endless red tape to keep the truth confined
(So come on)

They will not force us,
They will stop degrading us,
They will not control us,
We will be victorious
(So come on)

Interchanging mind control,
Come let the revolution take it's toll,
If you could flick a switch and open your third eye,
You'd see that
We should never be afraid to die
(So come on)

Rise up and take the power back,
It's time the fat cats had a heart attack,
You know that their time's coming to an end,
We have to unify and watch our flag ascend

They will not force us,
They will stop degrading us,
They will not control us,
We will be victorious

[rAVES]

6. one of the best live acts in the world, certainly that I've seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tugqHunwDA

Hey, has to be a good thing for Muse! :D

[T_i_B]

66. When I first saw them...

...it was at a small upstairs bar in Chelmsford, and there were only 15 people watching (including support acts). Let's just say that they were totally awesome!

To be honest I find the new album a bit over-indulgent but there's still a few real good 'uns on there.

[Don Caballero]

7. I saw Muse open for the Chili Peppers ten years ago

They really rocked down the house at IU. I was very impressed with them and their musicianship. Sorry to say I have read interviews with the lead singer and he is into all kinds of wacky conspiracy theories. He believes in the 9/11 conspiracy theory that has been debunked over and over again by publications like Popular Mechanics.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

17. The singer champions Alex Jones and the NWO conspiracy theorists

If that tells you anything.

[mvd]

33. Well, I agree with him that SOMETHING was up on 9/11

Every supposed debunking also has a dubunking response. So what we need is a real investigation. I'm convinced of LIHOP at least; no way our defenses would be down that much, and there was the Project For The New American Century - ignoring an attack fit the neocons' plans well.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

50. Whether something was up on 9/11

or not I am not sure either. But Alex Jones is not the guy you want carrying your torch for you. He makes any legitimate questions about 9/11 or any other subject into a sideshow and you can't take anything he says seriously, which is too bad because some of his subject matter raises legit questions.

[GillesDeleuze]

37. they don't read enough?

alex jones is a lying asshat who uses hyperbole instead of argumentation.

he picks fights with security at speaking events just so he can video tape himself being thrown out "for speaking the truth."

[mvd]

42. Alex Jones certainly doesn't help the movement, which has people that really care

Alex has a broader agenda that has bigotry involved.

[troubledamerican]

64. Muse are also proud atheists... if that tells you anything.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

67. It tells me that I agree with them on at least one thing

as a fellow proud atheist.

[Devil_Fish]

62. PM is full of Shit. 9/11 was MIHOP False Flag to start the Iraq masacre. NT

[ChadwickHenryWard]

63. I would have killed a man to see that show.

And I don't know that Bellamy actually believes them, he just really likes conspiracy theories. In fact, my brother was just telling me that by his interpretation of "Eurasia," Bellamy is pro One World Government.

[WriteDown]

12. Maybe he was thinking of The Ramones. nt

[Kolesar]

25. " I'm a right wing lobotomy " ?

or "I wanna be sedated"?

[WriteDown]

31. They were hugely right-wing / libertarian.

Always surprised me.

[mvd]

35. ALL the Ramones were right wing?

That would be disappointing. :-(

[WriteDown]

41. I think it was Johnny and Joey that were the two.

But they really made the band.

[mvd]

44. Yes they did; wonder why they were right wing?

RW just seems the opposite of punk. Belinda Carlisle is also supposedly a Repuke, which I don't understand.

[WriteDown]

47. I think Neil Peart is too...

and that guy is probably the greatest drummer of all time. Belinda Carlisle is a weird one.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

52. Belinda was addicted to drugs

then met her Republican husband and made the switch, like I said before Johnny was the only Republican Ramone, infact Joey was very much a Liberal and wrote one of the best anti-Reagan songs of the 1980s.

[mvd]

54. I remember she married a Repuke

No excuse for becoming one, though. :-)

[Kolesar]

58. Bonzo goes to Bitburg!

:patriot:
:headbang: :yourock:

[No Elephants]

45. I thought it was only Johnny.

[WriteDown]

46. Could be...

I'm going from memory on that one, but not sure.

[mvd]

49. Thanks; that makes me feel a little better about the Ramones

And I still like the Go Gos despite Belinda's strangeness.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

51. Not at all

Johnny Ramone was the only Republican in the group. Bonzo Goes To Bitburg is as anti-Reagan as you can get and Johnny always had a problem with that song.

[LynneSin]

14. I was THISCLOSE to dumping all my Muse CDs when I read about this in Rolling Stone

Sorry, if your music is used to glorify that lunatic then I am no longer interested in listening to that music.

Beck should have seen if Muse actually agreed with his politics before showcasing their music like that!

[Kolesar]

59. into a superterrific black hole?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

16. Born.....in the USA! Born...in the USA!

Oh, the years change but the irony never does.

[happygoluckytoyou]

18. time to peel an onion BECK.... bring on the tears !!!!!

[TheCML]

20. Geesh

Beck probably thinks Born in The USA is a feel good patriotic rock song. And what is it with all these conservatives championing Orwell? Do they not realize he was a Socialist?

[redqueen]

23. LOL... Love Muse, and I love this story.

:)

[crim son]

26. Muse is a seriously great band and it pleases me

that they've rebuffed Blech.

[bertman]

27. I saw Muse Saturday night at the U2 concert. They were awful. nt

[mvd]

30. Hehe.. like Reagan with Bruce, Beck completely missed the point

The new CD isn't bad (2.5/5 stars,) but I'd recommend their earlier work.

[marshall]

32. I wonder what the rep for Muse REALLY asked Beck to do

Beck sarcastically says he was asked to retract his "endorsement". That doesn't seem likely to me. Why would someone in the business of promoting a group say something like that? It seems more likely to me that the rep took issue with the way Beck characterized the group's message, and asked for a correction of that, and a retraction of the mis-characterization. He has a perfect right to do that if he feels that something false has been said about his client. But it seems ludicrous that a promoter would tell somebody, especially one with Beck's audience numbers, to stop saying he likes the music.

[Swede]

34. Jackson Browne,Heart,Don Henley etc,no one wants their music used by cons.

Thnks for the heads up on Muse.

[AzNick]

38. "Libertarians from England" LOLZ

Now Fox is going after the libertarian market, as the republicans are a dying breed.

Knowing the libertarians, I have to laugh at that one.

[GillesDeleuze]

39. Maybe he was thinking of the MC5's American Ruse

They told you in school about freedom
But when you try to be free they never let ya
They said "it's easy , nothing to it"
And now the army's out to get ya
Sixty nine America in terminal stasis
The air's so thick it's like drowning in molasses
I'm sick and tired of paying these dues
And i'm finally getting hip to the American ruse

I learned to say the pledge of allegiance
Before they beat me bloody down at the station
They haven't got a word out of me since
I got a billion years probation

Sixty nine America in terminal stasis
The air's so thick it's like drowning in molasses
I'm sick and tired of paying these dues
And i'm sick to my guts of the American ruse
Phony stars, oh no! crummy cars, oh no!
Cheap guitars, oh no! Joe's primitive bar... nah!

Rock'em back, Sonic !
The way they pull you over it's suspicious
Yeah, for something that just ain't your fault
If you complain they're gonna get vicious
Kick in the teeth and charge you with assault
Yeah, but i can see the chickens coming home to roost
Young people everywhere are gonna cook their goose
Lots of kids are working to get rid of these blues
cause everybody's sick of the American ruse

Well well well , take a look around !
Well well well , take a look around !
Well well well , take a look around !
Well well well , take a look around !
Well well well , take a look around !

[spiritual_gunfighter]

53. Great song by a great band.

Talk about being some fucking subversives!

[No Elephants]

43. Seems as though Beck thought Muse was warning against the one world government in the "end times" of

which the Book of Revelation speaks.

[zeemike]

48. It is all because of the projection tactics.

You accuse them of something and they accuse you of the same thing....that is SOP for the right wing spin machine.
This is just a variation on the same theme....use anti war songs against the present administration which they are trying to bring down.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

55. Whether Muse sucks or is the greatest band on the planet...

this is welcome since it makes Baby Beck look like the idiot he is. More negative press for my favorite snake-oil salesman...

[Cha]

56. I wouldn't want that slime ball even talking about anything

I created!

Good on Muse and I hope they get this VIRAL!

[damntexdem]

57. Beck is psychotic.

It's futile to try to make sense of his antics.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

60. The best part about it is how he's trying to spin it. As if they rejected him because

he's some kind of "square".