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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:54 AM Original message |
Tories want 'best' migrants in UK |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
1. Good |
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Anarcho-Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
2. Read between the lines: "reduce the threat of social tension" |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. no shit |
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bc3000 (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. I disagree |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. It's not actually about either. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 07:32 AM Response to Reply #18 |
66. bingo its aimed at albanians and other east europeans |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
28. No doubt |
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IDFbunny (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
59. More to the point, |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 07:15 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Funny definition of "more" you have there. |
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Traveling_Home (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
3. Have you considered the requirement for Legal immigration to the US nt |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
4. And ...? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. The OP is a font of endless "compassion" for agribusiness and their ilk. |
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vinylsolution (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
6. Getting Conservatives to emigrate.... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
7. Poor people should just accept a flood of low skill workers and the concomitant lower standard of |
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bc3000 (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
9. Have they considered Mexicans? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I've asked the OP why the EU doesn't have open borders with Mexico |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. It hardly stymied me. I told you before that the European Union's goal is to, as the name implies, |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. It STILL stymies you. You cannot offer any justification other than geography |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Talk about being stymied. I'm not offering any justification. The European Union is. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. You're defending said justification. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I'm defending the EU's right to decide its own goals. The fact remains that the EU |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. I think there is a racist angle implicit in your argument. To whit:Europe for Europeans. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:12 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. If you think that racism is the reason that progressive Europeans want a united Europe, |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Bulgaria to UK = 2000 miles. Tunisia to UK = 1100 mies |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Not credible to you, perhaps. Others may grant that the European Union can focus on |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. That's the same argument as "The USA can focus on the USA..." |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. You got me there - I guess!? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. Pretending that you aren't an open borders/globalist advocate today?` |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 06:16 AM Response to Reply #57 |
63. I don't try to hide my belief in open borders and trade (the "European" in me, perhaps). |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. Wrong. Tunisia and Bulgaria are both about 1000 miles from the UK |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Not on my map. Also does not really negate the argument. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Then your map is distorted. Distances: |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. OK, but Tunisia is still closer. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. The thing is, it's not just the UK that decides who enters the EU |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:41 AM Response to Reply #20 |
30. The goal of the EU was to unify Europe just for the sake of unifying it, period? Or was the |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 05:09 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. It was the latter. The goal of unifying Europe was to promote peace and prosperity on the continent |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. No, but Romania and Bulgaria have been admitted to the EU and their per capita incomes are less than |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. So why not admit Mexico to the EU (former European colony)? |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. It seems that the members of the European Union seem focused on unifying the continent of Europe. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. They've been trying to unify the continent since 1939. nt |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. You're right. The Germans had one approach. The EU is trying another. n/t |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I do wonder which will come first though.... |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I think the British will beat us, but they won't switch for a long time still. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. We shall see :). |
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IDFbunny (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
73. Napoleon came early 19th century. nt |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:29 AM Response to Reply #15 |
32. Perhaps because Mexico is not European? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 09:34 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. And Mexico is not the United States, but the OP calls for open borders between our two countries... |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Mexico is on the same continent and shares a land border with the US? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. That's a premise, not an argument. You need to continue with the thought "therefore..." |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. I love it when you spend as much effort attacking the messenger as discussing the message. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Your agenda is the message. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I thought we all posted in a manner consistent with our beliefs (our "agenda"). You don't? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Then why the howling when I ask you to synthesize your overall agenda with your stance on the EU? |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Mexico is part of North America; Bulgaria and Romania are part of Europe. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Again, a premise, not an argument... |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. You seem to be confusing me with the European Union. The EU was established by Europeans |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:38 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. So many words to admit why everyone already knows. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 07:28 AM Response to Reply #54 |
65. OK, I'll bite. My long term vision (a hundred year from now?) would be a world with open borders. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #41 |
70. This could be why the EU is becoming the bigger and more prosperous |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. That would be one big reason. The other would be the progressive nature of their societies |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 07:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
67. uh i never thought mexico was part of europe |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:44 AM Response to Reply #13 |
31. Yes, but Eastern Europeans are not as brown as Mexicans. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Thank you for picking up on that. The geography argument is a nonsense. nt |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 07:42 AM Response to Reply #31 |
68. hate to break it to you, but colour dosent matter a fig to most europeans |
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bc3000 (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
12. This might be my best shot at health care. |
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BlueIdaho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
25. Shit - I'll go if they'll take me... |
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western mass (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
60. Want to calculate your chances? Here's how. |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 08:32 AM Response to Reply #60 |
69. i failed.... |
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BlueIdaho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. I passed! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:34 AM Response to Original message |
29. So, Green found a socially tolerable way to frame his racism. Cons are masters at framing. |
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hugo_from_TN (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
55. Sounds like a good idea. |
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Rapier09 (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
61. That actually makes sense |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
62. Its the same everywhere - look at the H-IB program |
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