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Nambe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 03:19 PM
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Swing voters critical of Bush on Iraq
COLLEGE PARK, Md., July 29 (UPI)


An analysis of recent polls indicates swing voters are considerably more critical of President Bush's handling of Iraq than the general population.

The surveys were conducted by Program on Internatioal Policy Attitudes/Knowledge Networks. The majority of those swing voters said Bush was misleading when he presented evidence to justify going to war and questioned the need of going to war.

Steven Kull, director of the Program on International Policy Attitudes of the University of Maryland said, "The president is in some trouble with swing voters." ---


We are going to change history -- we're going to have a ton of fun doing it.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 03:20 PM
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1. AHHHH!
The swing voters are critical of Bush on Iraq? Does the DLC know this? Perhaps they need to retool their strategy.

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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 03:24 PM
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4. they would cease to exist if they admit they are wrong
if they lose the ear of the elected ones they quit getting paid off on the downside when they tell them they need to take more bribes and be more like republicans to get elected.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 03:21 PM
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2. The DLC...
believes that "swing" voters trust Bush more on defense issues. Well.........I think not!!! Bush has mislead us into the wrong war at the wrong time. The DLC is wrong. We need someone like Bob Graham who will go after Bush's Bullshit and give us the facts!!!
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 06:29 PM
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14. def. of "swing voters" from study
"Swing voters were defined as respondents who
said they were extremely confident that they
would vote in the upcoming election and
identified themselves as independents."

It was 12-13% of the respondents ... so we're not talking about the 20 or so % who have no pattern of voting dem/rep.

Original report is at http://www.pipa.org/

(also the % are not extremely diff tween that 12-13% and the rest).
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 03:24 PM
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3. Clue phone for Al From
Al From, please pick up the white Clue phone...
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 06:12 PM
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12. lol!
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 03:29 PM
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5. as well as some voters who usually don't swing
bush losing support of retired vets

``...
"He pats us on the back with his speeches and stabs us in the back with his actions," said Charles A. Carter of Shawnee, Okla., a retired Navy senior chief petty officer. "I will vote non-Republican in a heart beat if it continues as is."

"I feel betrayed," said Raymond C. Oden Jr., a retired Air Force Chief Master Sergeant now living in Abilene, Texas. ...

Registered Republican James Cook, who retired to Fort Walton Beach, Fla., after 24 years in the Air Force, said he is abandoning a party that he said abandoned him. "Bush is a liar," he said. "The Republicans in Congress, with very few exceptions, are gutless party lapdogs who listen to what puts money in their own pockets or what will get them re-elected." ...

"I voted for the president because of the promises," said Floyd Sears, a retired Air Force master sergeant in Biloxi, Miss. "But as far as I can tell, he has done nothing. In fact, his actions have been detrimental to the veterans and retired veterans. I'm very disappointed about the broken promise on medical care."
...''
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 04:52 PM
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8. "He pats us on the back.. and stabs us in the back"
OUCH!!!!
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 05:06 PM
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9. Freeper response to this story shows some OPEN wounds!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/953798/posts?page=459#459

Damn, I smell blood here, and it's BUSH'S! :evilgrin:
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 04:40 PM
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6. Now isn't that interesting?
Nope, the DLC can't change their stance. Their corporate stance means they can talk liberal-flavored language without promising any meat that would bring out disillusioned voters. They're stuck with their positions here.

On foreign policy, they're pretty well committed to PNAC, since their chief policy wonk (at the DLC's Progressive Policy Institute), Will Marshall, and several of the writers in their Blueprint Magazine are now signators to the most recent PNAC letter. (Actually a couple of the writers have been on board with PNAC for quite awhile.) Their whole deal is that Empire, preventive war, and the Patriot Act are good for you, but Bush has sorta maybe screwed up the implementation which they could handle without pissing off as many people.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 04:49 PM
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7. Mojo is finally turning!
*
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 05:48 PM
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10. Aren't they the ones DLC, Lieberman is courting?
By agreeing with bush on the "Just War?"
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 05:53 PM
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11. Encouraging!
:bounce: :bounce:
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 06:29 PM
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13. This is today's best news.
The TX D's are in NM, now this. :-)
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 07:24 PM
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15. Holy Moly!
Does this mean that maybe the WAR isn't really a campaign issue but Rebuilding Iraq is?

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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 02:05 AM
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16. Drive his sorry butt into the ground on his strong points
His weak points do their own talking. We have a year and a half to get this country straight about this punk. The only hope Bush has is a fixed election with the electronic voting machines.
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