Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Government loses Binyam Mohamed torture appeal

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 05:20 AM
Original message
Government loses Binyam Mohamed torture appeal
Source: BBC News

The foreign secretary has lost a bid to prevent the disclosure of secret information relating to the alleged torture of a UK resident.

Ethiopian-born Binyam Mohamed says UK authorities knew he was tortured at the behest of US authorities during seven years of captivity.

Foreign Secretary David Miliband had said releasing the material to Mr Mohamed would damage national security.

Three senior judges have now ruled the relevant documents can be released.




Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8507852.stm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:36 AM
Response to Original message
1. Binyam Mohamed torture evidence must be revealed, judges rule
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 06:36 AM by Turborama
Court of appeal ruling compels British government to disclose what MI5 knew of refugee's treatment in Guantánamo Bay

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/10/binyam-mohamed-torture-evidence-paragraphs">Read the secret torture evidence

Richard Norton-Taylor
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 10 February 2010 11.10 GMT

Three of Britain's most senior judges have ordered the government to reveal evidence of MI5 complicity in the torture of British resident Binyam Mohamed – unanimously dismissing objections by David Miliband, the foreign secretary.

In a ruling that will cause deep anxiety among the security and intelligence agencies, they rejected Miliband's claims, backed by the US government, that disclosure of a seven-paragraph summary of classified CIA information showing what British agents knew of Mohamed's torture would threaten intelligence sharing between London and Washington, and therefore endanger Britain's national security.

The judges – Sir Igor Judge, the lord chief justice; Lord Neuberger, the master of the rolls; and Sir Anthony May, president of the Queen's Bench – shattered the convention that the courts should not question claims by the executive relating to national security.

In damning references to claims made by Miliband and his lawyers, and stressing the importance of the media in supporting the principle of open justice, they said the case raised issues of "fundamental importance", of "democratic accountability and ultimately the rule of law itself".

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/10/binyam-mohamed-torture-ruling-evidence

"inhuman and degrading treatment by the United States authorities." = torture, basically.

This is really damning news, shame the BBC couldn't come up with better headline.

:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:49 AM
Response to Reply #1
3. Yup - headline could've been better.
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 07:05 AM by dipsydoodle
David Miliband is objectionable and should always be dismissed - nasty litte turd.

:hi:

BTW The Beeb have an odd habit of changing their headline at later time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:53 AM
Response to Reply #3
8. I'll have you know you're talking about the scourge of the Russian hordes.
He warned the Russian defence chief in no uncertain terms that he was mightily displeased with their role in Georgia, and to desist forthwith!!! The former, when he was being interviewed on Hard Talk and the sub-topic was Milliband, had the greatest difficulty in restraining himself from laughing out loud.

I believe a female public figure said she had difficulty taking him seriously, as she used to help change his nappies.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:41 AM
Response to Original message
2. Yes!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 08:27 AM
Response to Original message
4. releasing the material would damage national security = releasing the material would confirm guilt

One word: torture. Two more words: War Crimes!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 08:30 AM
Response to Original message
5. Government persuaded judge to delete damning references to MI5 'culture' of suppressing evidence
This, Sumption pointed out, was because the paragraph would state that MI5 did not operate in a culture that respected human rights or renounced "coercive interrogation techniques".

The letter also reveals that the judgment, before being rewritten, said this was particularly true of the MI5 officer known as Witness B who gave evidence in the case – and that this man's conduct was characteristic of MI5 as a whole.

Furthermore, the letter shows, the judges originally ruled that MI5 officers had "deliberately misled" the Intelligence and Security Committee, the body of MPs and peers supposed to oversee its work, on the question of coercive interrogations, and that this "culture of suppression" reflected its dealings with the committee, the foreign secretary and the court.

Finally, the letter makes clear that the court ruled MI5's culture of suppression "penetrates the service to such a degree" that it undermines any government assurance based upon information that comes from MI5 itself.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/10/binyam-mohamed-judge-deleted-ruling


The letter: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/10/binyam-mohamed-torture-letter
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:56 AM
Response to Original message
6. Binyam Mohamed torture evidence must be revealed, judges rule
Source: The Guardian

Binyam Mohamed torture evidence must be revealed, judges rule

Court of appeal ruling compels British government to disclose what MI5 knew of refugee's treatment in Guantánamo Bay

Three of Britain's most senior judges have ordered the government to reveal evidence of MI5 complicity in the torture of British resident Binyam Mohamed – unanimously dismissing objections by David Miliband, the foreign secretary.

In a ruling that will cause deep anxiety among the security and intelligence agencies, they rejected Miliband's claims, backed by the US government, that disclosure of a seven-paragraph summary of classified CIA information showing what British agents knew of Mohamed's torture would threaten intelligence sharing between London and Washington, and therefore endanger Britain's national security.

One of the key paragraphs states that there "could readily be contended to be at the very least cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment of Binyam Mohamed by the United States authorities".

The judges – Sir Igor Judge, the lord chief justice; Lord Neuberger, the master of the rolls; and Sir Anthony May, president of the Queen's Bench – shattered the convention that the courts should not question claims by the executive relating to national security.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/10/binyam-mohamed-torture-ruling-evidence
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:56 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. U.K. reveals U.S. secrets about ex-Gitmo inmate
U.K. reveals U.S. secrets about ex-Gitmo inmate
Court orders release of U.S. intelligence information given to British spies
updated 5:40 a.m. CT, Wed., Feb. 10, 2010

LONDON - Britain's government on Wednesday disclosed once-secret information on the treatment of a former Guantanamo Bay detainee who says he was tortured in U.S. custody, losing an extended court battle to keep the material classified.

Judges rejected the government's claim that revealing the information would damage U.S.-British intelligence cooperation.

The information disclosed consisted of a summary of U.S. intelligence information given to British spy agencies about former detainee Binyam Mohamed's treatment during interrogations by the Americans in May 2002.

The paragraphs read in court disclosed that he was subjected to "cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment" including sleep deprivation, shackling and threats resulting in mental stress and suffering.

Ethiopia-born Mohamed was arrested in Pakistan in 2002 and says he was tortured there and in Morocco before being flown to Guantanamo Bay. He was released without charge last year.

'Freedom of speech'
The decision upholds an earlier High Court ordering officials to make public the secret seven-paragraph summary of U.S. intelligence files. The Foreign Office appealed that ruling, but promised Wednesday to post the paragraphs on its Web site.

More:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35326465/ns/world_news-europe/

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 05:21 PM
Response to Original message
9. In seven paragraphs, the proof of MI5 complicity in torture of Mohamed Binyam
In seven paragraphs, the proof of MI5 complicity in torture of Mohamed Binyam
The information that foreign secretary David Miliband fought to keep out of court judgments – and its significance
Ian Cobain guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 10 February 2010 20.15 GMT

Below are the seven paragraphs in full which the Foreign Office published hours after the court of appeal judgment. Under the paragraphs is an explanation of their significance.


1 It was reported that a new series of interviews was conducted by the United States authorities prior to 17 May 2002 as part of a new strategy designed by an expert interviewer.

MI5 had known since at least ­January of that year that US authorities were mistreating detainees held in the ­so-called war on terror.

Legal advice was issued to its officers that month to allow them to continue questioning people they believed were suffering ­mistreatment – although it is unclear how lawful that advice was. "New strategy" appears to be a ­euphemism for such mistreatment.

More:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/10/binyam-mohamed-torture-seven-paragraphs
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 07:13 PM
Response to Original message
10. Binyam Mohamed torture appeal lost by UK government
Source: BBC News


Binyam Mohamed torture appeal lost by UK government


The foreign secretary has lost an Appeal Court bid to stop the disclosure of secret information relating to the alleged torture of a UK resident.

Ethiopian-born Binyam Mohamed, 31, says UK authorities knew he was tortured at the behest of US authorities after his detention in Pakistan in 2002.

Judges ruled that paragraphs which say his treatment was "cruel, inhuman and degrading" should be released.

David Miliband said the ruling was "not evidence that the system is broken".

The judgement was delivered by the three most senior Court of Appeal judges in England and Wales.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8507852.stm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. k/r
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. Could this possibly be the back door through
which the Bush administration could be charged?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 08:29 PM
Response to Original message
13. Miliband is a piece of shit
MI5 faces crisis of credibility as torture denials are discredited

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/10/torture-mi5-binyam-mohamed



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 30th 2024, 05:38 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC