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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 05:34 AM
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STOCK MARKET WATCH, Wednesday February 10
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STOCK MARKET WATCH, Wednesday February 10, 2010

Bush Administration Officials Convicted = 2
Name(s): David Safavian, James Fondren

Bush Administration Officials Charged = 1
Name(s): Richard Lopez Razo

Financial Sector Officials Convicted since 1/20/09 = 11

AT THE CLOSING BELL ON February 9, 2010

Dow... 10,058.64 +150.25 (+1.52%)
Nasdaq... 2,150.87 +24.82 (+1.17%)
S&P 500... 1,070.52 +13.78 +1.30%)
Gold future... 1,072 +5.80 (+0.54%)
10-Yr Bond... 3.64 +0.09 (+2.39%)
30-Year Bond 4.58 +0.09 (+1.91%)




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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 05:39 AM
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1. Market Observation
A Mortgage Primer (or "Cheat Sheet")
BY RICHARD A. ECKERT


Although I am the last person who wants to exculpate the big banks of anything, there seems to be a lot of misconceptions about their role in the mortgage market. I would go as far as to say there is a fundamental lack of understanding of the mortgage market among the public, particularly the secondary market, where today 73% of all loans are held (72% of these represent agency pass-throughs and CMOs). In a recent article I read, the author betrayed his ignorance by intimating that all of the most toxic mortgages were originated by and held in whole loan form in the portfolios of the nation's banks and thrifts. I would respond to that author with these observations:
1. Even now (end of Q309), 68% of all first lien mortgages are held in securities form. Or, more precisely, they are used to collateralize securities issued by Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, FHA/VA or private securities issuers. That number drops to 62% when second lien loans are considered. Not since 1985 have at least 1/2 or more of all first lien loans been held in whole loan form at regulated depositories (data on second lien loans was not available before 1990). See Exhibits I & II.

2. The figures above represent a continuation of an inexorable trend toward domination of the mortgage market by the GSEs and the capital markets. The reasons for this are manifold and I am trying to keep the scope of this article to a few modest observations. But, briefly, the major issues facing depositories were interest rate risk management and capital. It was nearly impossible for those institutions to hold long duration assets like fixed-rate mortgages (FRMs) on their balance sheets funded as they were with deposits and borrowings of considerably shorter duration, particularly after Regulation Q was lifted (Reg Q placed a ceiling of 6% on interest paid to depositors). Even adjustable-rate mortgage (ARM) portfolio lenders (the big thrifts) found it increasingly difficult to manage prepayment risk as rates marched relentlessly downward and the friction in the refinancing a loan all but disappeared. Furthermore, the capital required of their mortgage holdings by their regulators made mortgage portfolio lending not only a low-margin business, but a low-ROE one as well.

3. By the time the 21st century rolled around, regulated depositories held less than a quarter of all housing receivables. Only two types of portfolio lenders remained: a) the large commercial banks using them as a "sticky", anchor product, much like checking accounts (for existing depositors with balances of at least $25,000, BofA (NYSE: BAC - $14.42) was, at one point, giving away mortgages like it used to give away toasters, with no out-of-pocket cost to the borrower); and b) thrifts trying to prove themselves relevant. The latter received a small reprieve from the end of 2003 to the end of 2006, when an affordability crisis combined with accounting scandals at Fannie Mae (NYSE:FNM - $0.99) and Freddie Mac (NYSE:FRE - $1.17) combined to create a window of opportunity they jumped through with a vengeance—or, shall I say, an apocalyptic vision. Of option ARM-ageddon!!. I will address option ARMs in next month’s contribution to Market Observation.
Mr. Eckert provides us with twenty four observations in all. - ozymandius

http://www.financialsense.com/Market/wrapup.htm
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 05:48 AM
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4. The Link is Down, Which Is Unfortunate
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 05:54 AM by Demeter
I wanted to read up on that, again. Hard to believe something once so straightforward has become layered like an onion, and one peels away at it, finding in the center, nothing.

(Which analogy comes courtesy of Ibsen in Peer Gynt. According to Wiki: "Peer Gynt is the story of a life based on avoidance." One might say so is our global economy: avoidance of reality, avoidance of consequences, avoidance of law, avoidance of responsibility, avoidance of duty. Philosophy before breakfast, never a good thing. Puts me off eating for the whole day.

Don't worry! Much as I'd like to, I don't think Peer Gynt or Ibsen would go down well as a distraction or theme... )

Added at edit:

As I read the plot summary, I realize that Peer is the perfect rendering of W himself. This is not comforting, and Laura is no Solveig!
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 05:51 AM
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6. Good morning, Demeter.
:donut: :donut: :donut:
Try it again. It just worked for me. Maybe the server reset the connection.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 05:59 AM
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8. Nope. Firefox can't find it
I'll try later. It's found it before.
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willing dwarf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:06 AM
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11. Good allusion
W and western culture akin to Peer Gynt.... I never thought. I love Ibsen, but it's been a while since I looked at Peer Gynt. I guess I'm tired of plain politics and financial shenanigans. Literary criticism seems far more intriguing at the moment (no offense Ozy)
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:12 AM
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14. Narcissism By Any Name Is a Sickness
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 06:14 AM by Demeter
The disease of our time.
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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 04:09 PM
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42. I'm pro narcissism.
Narcissism is one of the things I like about myself.
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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 04:10 PM
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43. What I don't care for is apathy.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 04:26 PM
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47. And see, that doesn't bother me at all
One way or the other, makes no difference, know what I mean?


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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:18 AM
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17. None taken.
Literature often relates the drier aspects of our discussion with an equally compelling force. It's art being imitative - that's all.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 05:41 AM
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2. Today's Reports
08:30 Trade Balance Dec
Briefing.com -$38.0B
Consensus -$35.8B
Prior -$36.4B

10:30 Crude Inventories 2/5
Briefing.com NA
Consensus NA
Prior 2.32M

14:00 Treasury Budget Jan
Briefing.com -$46.0B
Consensus -$46.0B
Prior -$91.9B

http://www.briefing.com/Investor/Public/Calendars/EconomicCalendar.htm
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:27 AM
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29. Trade gap rises in December to $40.2 billion
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The U.S. trade deficit widened unexpectedly in December to $40.2 billion, fueled by the highest oil prices and oil imports since October 2008, the Commerce Department said on Wednesday.

Wall Street analysts surveyed before the report had expected the trade deficit to narrow to $36 billion from $36.4 billion in November.

The 10.4 percent jump in the trade gap came as both U.S. exports and imports showed healthy gains for the month.

...

For the year, the U.S. trade deficit totaled $380.7 billion, down sharply from $695.9 billion in 2008, after a year in which the global financial crisis took a heavy toll on trade.

The politically sensitive U.S. trade deficit with China fell in December to $18.1 billion and totaled $226.8 billion for the year, down from a record $268.0 billion in 2008.

U.S. exports to China in December were a record large $8.4 billion.

The trade gap with China is by far the largest the United States has with any country and symbolizes what many U.S. politicians believe are China's unfair trade practices.

Meanwhile, a separate report showed U.S. mortgage applications dipped last week, reflecting reduced demand for home purchase loans even as rates on 30-year loans fell to their lowest since December.

A continuation of lackluster demand for home purchase loans would not bode well for the U.S. housing market, which remains highly vulnerable to setbacks and heavily reliant on government intervention.

/... http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100210/bs_nm/us_usa_economy_trade
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 05:43 AM
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3. Oil drops to near $73 amid jump in US supplies
SINGAPORE – Oil prices dropped to near $73 a barrel Wednesday in Asia after a report showing unexpected growth in U.S. crude inventories cast more doubt on the recovery in the world's biggest economy. ...

U.S. crude stocks jumped 7.2 million barrels last week, the American Petroleum Institute said late Tuesday, suggesting weak consumer demand for fuels like gasoline and heating oil. Analysts had expected an increase of 2 million barrels, according to a survey by Platts, the energy information arm of McGraw-Hill Cos.

The Energy Department's Energy Information Administration has delayed announcement of its inventory report until Friday from Wednesday because of snow storms. ...

In other Nymex trading in March contracts, heating oil fell 0.45 cent to $1.9328 a gallon, and gasoline was down 0.2 cent at $1.927 a gallon. Natural gas rose 6 cents to $5.35 per 1,000 cubic feet.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/oil_prices
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 05:50 AM
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5. After trend of rising prices, some housing markets see about-face
CHICAGO (MarketWatch) -- One in five housing markets entered a second leg of home price declines in late 2009, after showing price increases for nearly half of last year, according to a report released Wednesday by Zillow.com, a real-estate Web site.

In 29 of the 143 markets tracked by the site -- including Boston, Atlanta and San Diego -- prices flattened or began to decrease again in the second part of last year, after five or more months of consecutive monthly increases, according to the site's fourth quarter real-estate market report. ...

"While we have seen strong stabilization in home values during 2009, there are clear signs that they will turn more negative in the near-term," said Stan Humphries, Zillow's chief economist, in a news release. ...

Still, Humphries said markets that see a "double dip" in values before reaching a bottom won't see a return "to the magnitude of depreciation seen earlier." Instead, the drop will look like a "modest aftershock" of the initial drop in prices. In this scenario, a "double dip" is defined as two periods of sustained declines separated by a brief stabilization or recovery, according to the release.

The report also found the percentage of single-family homes with mortgages in negative equity rose slightly, to 21.4% in the fourth quarter, compared with 21% in the third quarter. Twenty-three percent were underwater in the second quarter.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/early-signs-of-a-double-dip-in-housing-prices-2010-02-10?reflink=MW_news_stmp
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 05:54 AM
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7. German Finance Meeting Ends; No Decision On Greek Aid
BERLIN (Dow Jones)--A meeting between the German finance minister and lawmakers on possible support for Greece ended Wednesday, and no decision on aid has been made yet, a finance ministry spokesman said Wednesday.

The comments come after German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble met with parliamentarians from the Christian Democratic Union and Christian Social Union, part of Chancellor Angela Merkel's center-right government, to discuss possible aid. ...

Greek bonds have been under pressure. Market reaction has threatened to spill over into other European government bond markets, as it already has in Spain and Portugal.

Greece had an estimated budget deficit of 12.7% of gross domestic product last year, four times the 3% threshold set under EU budget rules. As a result, several rating agencies have downgraded Greece's sovereign debt ratings over the past weeks. Greece has pledged to reduce its budget deficit by four percentage points of GDP this year and respect the EU's 3% threshold in 2012.

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100210-706122.html?mod=WSJ_latestheadlines
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 05:59 AM
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9. Paulson, Once a Top Earner, Tells Buffett Bankers Make Too Much
Editors should have placed the word "Earner" in quotes. - ozymandius
Feb. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Henry Paulson, who was paid an $18.7 million cash bonus for his final six months of work on Wall Street in 2006, said bank bailouts he later orchestrated as Treasury secretary should encourage firms to rein in pay. ...

Bank executives, who tapped taxpayers amid losses in 2008, are under pressure from lawmakers to keep compensation in check as profits return. Lloyd Blankfein, the chief executive officer of Paulson’s old firm, Goldman Sachs Group Inc., turned in record profit in 2009 and walked away with a $9 million all- stock bonus, about one-seventh the size of his 2007 award. ...

Buffett, 79, a Goldman Sachs investor through his Berkshire Hathaway Inc. and a friend of Paulson’s, has criticized compensation at firms that perform poorly. Last month he told Fox Business Network that the CEO of a failing company should be “destroyed himself financially.” With Paulson, Buffett asked questions and offered few opinions.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aEGbMqABW1CY&pos=7



Paulson is selling a book - BTW.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:03 AM
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10. You Mean, He Burned Through All That Loot Already?
tsk, tsk
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 07:52 AM
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23. Morning Marketeers...
:donut:and lurkers; Of course he says that now-Paulson's got his now, hell with everyone else. The bonuses got out of line when they started eating more of the profit. Profits belong to the shareholders (less operating costs). When most companies stopped paying dividends, the true costs became hidden and money could be skimmed off almost unnoticed. There was no disincentive for poor performance and CEO's viewed company funds as their personal piggy bank.

Changing topics...our school board will meet again this Thursday. They will again read and take comment on the new bill that will tie teachers performance to student test scores. They have already booked all the comment time (on the actual change) by Board members and their cronies and all those opposing it are resigned to the public comment-which is short and includes any and all grievances. In other words, teachers are resigned to the back of the bus. It will be a packed meeting no doubt.

The Superintendents other plans-do away with giving teachers with doctorate and masters degrees extra pay and increase the school year from Aug to May to August to July.

I am counting the days til retirement and I know we will really lose experienced teachers this year. But maybe that is what they want anyway. I can honestly say that I cannot recommend either teaching or nursing as a career choice.

Happy hunting and watch for the bears.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:11 AM
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26. Job options
I hear you, Anne, loud and clear. As we have seen over the course of this economic "crisis," workers are getting the shaft, the short end of the stick, the empty promises, the boot.

Yours truly apparently dodged a bullet earlier this week. After the nightmare software conversion -- which is still not complete and still not without its major bugs -- Tansy Gold remains on the "approved freelancer" list and continues to receive her alloted work each day with some regularity. How long this will continue is anyone's guess. But it provides income in the meantime sufficient to pay the bills, feed the dogs, etc.

The personal mini-crisis, however, reminded me how dangerous it is to rely on the aristos, even the petit-aristos, for one's sustenance. So probably within the next month or two, I will cut back on my workload for them and return more time to my artisan business in the spirit of William Morris:

It is right and necessary that all men/sic/ should have work to do which shall he worth doing, and be of itself pleasant to do; and which should he done under such conditions as would make it neither over-wearisome nor over-anxious.

My "paid" work has become over-wearisome, and as Anne reports, this is a spreading virus in the world of work as we know it.

And if I may again quote Mr. Morris,

And now in the teeth of this stupid tyranny I put forward a claim on behalf of labour enslaved by Commerce, which I know no thinking man can deny is reasonable, but which if acted on would involve such a change as would defeat Commerce; that is, would put Association instead of Competition, Social order instead of Individualist anarchy.

Morris, of course, was himself an elite who probably had little understanding of the anxiety of the working classes. He had the wealth and the leisure to engage in Art without needing to slave for Commerce. But he recognized the conflict between the two, even if he had no feasible plan to implement the change he advocated. (Sound familiar?)

Therefore it is up to those of us who do not have that wealth and leisure to take it back for our own, to advocate for and implement the truly necessary, and indeed revolutionary, change that we were promised and then denied. And perhaps our first revolutionary act should be to create our own jobs in our own communities and not rely on the capitalists to provide for us.



Tansy Gold
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:06 PM
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51. The most precious thing we give is our time....
business take away our time and what do they give us for it, I think alot about Rich Dad Poor Dad and Kirowsaki's comments about those that work. He described them like chickens in a chicken coop. That vision always stuck in my head. I have given Nursing and education almost 20 years and I am ready to do something else at this point. I will be self employed-my time will be my own. I intend to work just enough to earn what I need and spend the rest of my time indulging in what arts I chose.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:15 AM
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28. Our board here has decided that a program called CSCOPE is the answer.
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 09:15 AM by mbperrin
Next year, those who teach TAKS-responsible subjects will receive an entire year's worth of lesson plans, reading, and what to say each minute of each period of each day. No deviation is permitted. It will be like an all-year TAKS test with no teacher changes or comments allowed.

Really, why they don't just get a computer with speech capabilities to read it and get rid of the teachers completely, I don't know.

I'm thinking about next year, as are many other teachers here. I just don't know.

Edit to thank the wonderful person who gave me a heart!
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:59 AM
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34. That Is So NOT Educational
What do they need a teacher for, then? They could just put in computers and drill the kids to death.

In fact, that sounds a lot like what the Nazis would do. It's called indoctrination.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:02 AM
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35. That's just how I feel and have felt from the start on all these standardized
tests. We've killed critical thinking starting in 1984 in Texas, and it is showing up nationally, I believe.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:22 PM
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52. They are declaring open season ...
on teachers. I have never seen it this hateful. The kids come in as they are and teachersaccept them and try to educate them. But now the teacher are being held accountable for things beyond their control. I can't tell you how upset teachers are down here.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 08:14 AM
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53. That is horrible,

and it's the kids who suffer.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:56 AM
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33. My Fundie Aunt Has Put Me Back on Her Spamming List
After reading the first, I've decided to route her to the junk pile.

It claims that Texas liberals are rewriting the nation's textbooks to, among other things, substitute Diwali for Christmas in the spirit of multiculturalism.

Do let me know if this occurs--I'll let my Punjabi clients know.

What possesses people to believe such (you should pardon my language) crap, let alone spread it around?
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:32 PM
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50. Houston Texas is a multicultural city....
a smart teacher would miss a great opportunity Not to include Diwali or the lunar new year into a lesson plan. We are planning to take our special ed kids from the hood to Hillcroft for a taste of India. They will never go to India but at least they can enjoy the culture.
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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 04:13 PM
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45. But I thought Paulson was one of the "greed is good" crowd.
I guess he's one of the "I got mine, the rest of you can suck it" crowd.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:08 AM
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12. Lessons from the Japanese: Time to Stop Borrowing Money and Start Printing It By Ellen Brown
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Lessons-from-the-Japanese-by-Ellen-Brown-091201-536.html

“We are completely dependent on the commercial Banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation, cash or credit. If the Banks create ample synthetic money we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a permanent money system. When one gets a complete grasp of the picture, the tragic absurdity of our hopeless position is almost incredible, but there it is. It is the most important subject intelligent persons can investigate and reflect upon.”

Robert H. Hemphill, Credit Manager of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, 1934

Miners used to keep canaries in coal mines as an early warning device. If the air was so bad that it killed the canary, the miners would soon be next. Japan may be the canary for the out-of-control deficit spending policies now being pursued in the United States and the United Kingdom. In a November 1 article in the Daily Telegraph called “It Is Japan We Should Be Worrying About, Not America,” international business editor Ambrose Evans-Pritchard wrote:

“Japan is drifting helplessly towards a dramatic fiscal crisis. For 20 years the world's second-largest economy has been . . . feeding its addiction to Keynesian deficit spending – and allowing it to push public debt beyond the point of no return. The rocketing cost of insuring against the bankruptcy of the Japanese state is telling us that the model has smashed into the buffers.

“. . . Tokyo's price index fell 2.4% in October, the deepest deflation in modern Japanese history. . . . The government could stop this . . . . It could print money à l'outrance to stave off deflation. Yet it sits frozen, like a rabbit in the headlamps.

“Japan's terrible errors are by now well known. . . . QE was too little, too late, and this is the lesson for the West. We must cut borrowing drastically over the next decade, and offset this with ultra-easy monetary policy. Does Downing Street understand this? Does the White House? . . . Clearly not.”

In case you too have forgotten your high school French, "a l'outrance" means "to the uttermost." "QE" is "quantitative easing" – printing money. Evans-Pritchard's proposed solution to the mounting fiscal crisis is that the government needs to quit borrowing money and start printing it.
MORE FUNNY MONEY? PLEASE!

Your response is liable to be that the government is doing that already, in spades; and it does not seem to be working. The Federal Reserve is madly printing money (or writing it into electronic accounts), increasing the money supply to the point that worried pundits are screaming about hyperinflation. Yet the credit crunch just continues to get worse.

And that is true. Money is being printed; but it is not being printed by the government. The U.S. government has opted to borrow rather than print, just as the Japanese did. The Federal Reserve is a privately-owned central bank, which issues Federal Reserve Notes (or dollars) and lends them to the government and to other banks. Those banks then leverage the money into many times that sum in interest-bearing loans.

The problem today is that bank lending has fallen off dramatically. The Fed has been creating money as fast as it can find federal and bank borrowers to take the money off its hands, yet it can't keep up with the rampant deflation in the real economy. Bank lending has dropped by 17 percent since October 2008, when the credit crisis was already in full swing. “There has been nothing like this in the USA since the 1930s,” says Professor Tim Congdon of International Monetary Research. “The rapid destruction of money balances is madness.”

The reason the level of bank lending is so important is that virtually all of our money today originates as loans created by private banks. Most people think money is issued by the government, but the only money the government creates are coins, which compose less than one ten-thousandth of the money supply – about $1 billion out of $13.8 trillion (M3). Coins and dollar bills together make up only about 7% of the money supply. All of the rest is simply written into accounts on computer screens by bankers when they make loans.

And this is the real source of the exponential inflation in the money supply in the last half-century. Contrary to popular belief, banks do not lend their own money or their depositors' money. As the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas> explains on its website:

"Banks actually create money when they lend it. Here's how it works: Most of a bank's loans are made to its own customers and are deposited in their checking accounts. Because the loan becomes a new deposit, just like a paycheck does, the bank ... holds a small percentage of that new amount in reserve and again lends the remainder to someone else, repeating the money-creation process many times."

As Robert Hemphill observed in the 1930s, if we had no banks we would have no money, other than pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters. When old loans are paid off and new ones aren't taken out to replace them, the money supply shrinks; and lately, new loans have fallen off dramatically.

Why? Banks insist that they are lending as much as they are prudently allowed to. The problem is that they have reached the lending limits imposed by the capital requirements set by the Bank for International Settlements. In the years of the credit boom, banks were able to leverage their capital into far more loans than are being created now. This was because loans were taken off the banks' books by investors, allowing the same capital to be used many times over to generate new loans. These investors, called “shadow lenders,” have now exited the market, and they are not expected to return any time soon. They left after it became clear that the credit default swaps allegedly protecting their investments were only as good as the solvency of the counterparties (typically AIG or hedge funds), which had a bad habit of going bankrupt rather than paying up. An estimated $10 trillion disappeared from the money supply along with the shadow lenders, and the Fed has managed to get only a few trillion back into the market as replacement money.
"SHADOW MONEY": ANOTHER BLOW TO THE QUANTITY THEORY OF MONEY

Along with the disappearance of the “shadow lenders,” there has been a dramatic decline in something called “shadow money.” The concept of shadow money was presented by two economists from Credit Suisse, James Sweeney and Carl Lantz, in a Bloomberg interview in May. As explained on DemandSideBlog, shadow money is money the market itself creates in order to finance a boom -- “money” in the sense of a medium of exchange. In a boom there is not enough cash to go around, so collateral is used as near money or shadow money. Shadow money can include government bonds, private bonds, asset-backed securities, credit card debt (which can be incurred and paid off without drawing on the M1 money stock), and even real estate (when it is highly liquid and easily tradeable).

In a fuller explanation on Zero Hedge, Tyler Durden (a pen name) quotes from Friedrich Hayek's Prices and Production (1935). Hayek said:

“There can be no doubt that besides the regular types of the circulating medium, such as coin, notes and bank deposits, which are generally recognized to be money or currency, and the quantity of which is regulated by some central authority or can at least be imagined to be so regulated, there exist still other forms of media of exchange which occasionally or permanently do the service of money.

“. . . t is clear that, other things equal, any increase or decrease of these money substitutes will have exactly the same effects as an increase or decrease of the quantity of money proper, and should therefore, for the purposes of theoretical analysis, be counted as money.”

Lantz and Sweeney calculate that at the peak of the boom there were six trillion dollars in the traditionally-defined money stock (or money supply). The private shadow stock accounted for $9.5 trillion, and government-based shadow money accounted for another $11 trillion. Thus the shadow money stock dwarfed the traditionally-defined money stock. This can be seen in the chart below provided by Tyler Durden. The blue strips at the bottom, called “outside money,” are dollars printed by the Federal Reserve. The red sections, called “inside money,” are money created as loans by the banks themselves. The green sections, called “public shadow money,” are money created by the government and the Fed as debt (or loans). The purple sections, called “private shadow money,” are the money created as private debt securities by the shadow lenders.


shadow money

Lantz and Sweeney estimate the total drop in private shadow money (the purple blocks) during the current credit crisis at $3.6 trillion. This has been offset by an increase in public shadow money, both from the massive borrowing needed to finance the federal deficit and from the aggressive liquidity measures taken by the Fed in converting private securities into loans. Those measures helped prevent an even worse drop in the commercial money supply than actually occurred, but they were not sufficient to eliminate the credit squeeze from lowered commercial lending, which continues to act as a tourniquet on the productive economy.

Moreover, the lending situation is slated to get worse. At the G20 meeting in Pittsburgh in September, deadlines were set for increasing the amount of capital that financial institutions must set aside to cover their loans. That means that credit could get even tighter, further shrinking the global money supply and precipitating an even deeper depression.
HOW TO SAVE $500 BILLION YEARLY IN INTEREST: MONETIZE THE DEBT

Although the Federal Reserve cannot create money and simply spend it into the economy, Congress can. The Constitution authorizes Congress “to coin money regulate the value thereof.” A former chairman of the House Coinage Subcommittee once observed that Congress could solve its debt problems just by minting some very large-denomination coins. This solution is invariably rejected as dangerously inflationary; but when the “shadow money” is factored in, we can see that it wouldn't be. Government bonds already serve as money in the sense of a medium of exchange. They trade in massive quantities around the world just as if they were money. Paying off government bonds with newly-printed dollars and then ripping up the bonds (or voiding them out on a computer screen) would not significantly affect the size of the overall money supply, since “shadow money” would just be replaced with dollar bills (paper or electronic). In the chart above, green money (public shadow money) would become blue money (dollar bills and checkbook money), leaving the total money stock unchanged.

It might be argued that the money borrowed by the government has already been spent into the economy, and that if the bonds are now turned into dollars, the money will be out there twice. That is true; but on the shadow-money model, the inflation has already occurred and cannot now be reversed. It occurred when the government printed the bonds. The bonds are already out there serving as money. Whether the money stock takes the form of dollars or bonds, it will be used as a medium of exchange in the real economy.

Another argument often raised is that the money created as government securities and Federal Reserve loans has been “sterilized” by lodging it with central banks and commercial banks. When this money hits Main Street as dollars competing for goods and services, the floodgates will open and hyperinflation will be upon us. That is the alleged justification for keeping the stimulus money in the banks instead of in the marketplace. But then what was the point of the stimulus? If the money is only stimulating the banks, it is not doing anything for the real economy. We want money out there in the marketplace generating demand for products, which generates jobs. Price inflation results only when “demand” (money) exceeds “supply” (goods and services). If the money is used to create goods and services, prices will remain stable. We have workers out of work and factories sitting idle. They need some “demand” (money) stimulating them to create supply, in order to make the economy productive again.

Other critics point to gold's recent rise as an indicator of dangerous inflation already being upon us. The more likely explanation for gold's rise, however, is that foreign central banks are looking for something besides U.S. government bonds in which to park their money. They no longer want our bonds, so fine. Let's tell them no more are for sale. We will in the future sell our bonds to our own central bank, which will rebate the interest to the government after deducting its costs . And we will use the money, not to feed a parasitic private banking empire by building up bank reserves, but for direct expenditures on infrastructure and other public projects that will put people back to work, add to the productive economy, and increase the collective well-being of the people.




Author's Bio: Ellen Brown developed her research skills as an attorney practicing civil litigation in Los Angeles. In Web of Debt, her latest book, she turns those skills to an analysis of the Federal Reserve and "the money trust." She shows how this private cartel has usurped the power to create money from the people themselves, and how we the people can get it back. Her earlier books focused on the pharmaceutical cartel that gets its power from "the money trust." Her eleven books include Forbidden Medicine, Nature's Pharmacy (co-authored with Dr. Lynne Walker), and The Key to Ultimate Health (co-authored with Dr. Richard Hansen). Her websites are http://www.webofdebt.com and http://www.ellenbrown.com.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:11 AM
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13. A Smart and Simple Tax By William John Cox
http://www.opednews.com/articles/A-Smart-and-Simple-Tax-by-William-John-Cox-091204-687.html

The burden of taxation in the United States has been shifted from those who most benefit from our government to those who work the hardest and earn the least. This shrugging of responsibility is not only unfair, it fails to accomplish public policy goals required to move the economy out of recession and the environment out of crisis.

Uncorrected, the heavy burden of taxation borne by workers and small businesses today for the benefit of corporations and the wealthy elite will certainly lead to chaos and violence tomorrow.

It is time to discard our stupid and complex system of taxation and replace it with a smart and simple tax that balances the burden of taxation with the benefits of government.

How It Happened

Commencing in 1817, Congress eliminated all internal taxes and funded the government by tariffs on imported goods. Tariffs increased the cost of goods imported from outside the country, and were primarily paid by the wealthy and larger businesses. Laborers, farmers, and small business owners paid little or no taxes because the goods they consumed were primarily manufactured in the U.S.

Enforced by a new Internal Revenue Service, Congress passed an income tax during the Civil War along with sales, excise and inheritance taxes. The income tax was progressive in that those who earned less than $10,000 only paid 3%, while those who earned more were taxed at a higher rate.

Congress eliminated the income tax in 1868, and although it later flirted with taxing income, the government mainly relied on tariffs and an internal tax on tobacco and liquor for support. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1896 that taxes on income violated the Constitution, since they were not apportioned among the states.

The Sixteenth Amendment in 1913 allowed Congress to tax the incomes of both individuals and corporations. Taxes continued to increase over the years, and with the introduction of payroll withholding in 1943, most Americans were forced to pay a tax on their incomes.

Initially, the wealthy and corporations were taxed more heavily than individuals. When Eisenhower was president, corporations paid approximately a quarter of all federal taxes, the maximum tax rate on top earners was 92%, excise taxes brought in 19% of tax revenue, and most workers paid minimum Social Security payroll taxes.

Today, corporations pay about 12% of income taxes, the maximum rate is only 35% for all those who earn more than $372,950, even those who receive millions or billions each year, and excise taxes have dropped to 3% of revenue.

It gets even worse!

In August 2008, the Government Accountability Office reported that two-thirds of all U.S. corporations and 78% of foreign companies doing business in the United States paid no federal income taxes between 1998 and 2005, even though they booked trillions of dollars in receipts.

The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of the United States was almost $14.2 trillion in 2008. The government took in $1.2 trillion in estimated receipts and sustained an estimated deficit of $390 billion. Approximately 45% of the revenues came from individual income taxes, 36% from Social Security and other payroll taxes, 12% from corporate income taxes, 3% from excise taxes, 1.2% from estate and gift taxes, 1.3% from customs duties, and 1.5% from other sources. The Tax Policy Center calculates that individual income taxes and payroll taxes now account for four out of every five federal revenue dollars.

Current Proposals

It has been proposed that the progressive income tax be eliminated in favor of a single flat rate for everyone in hopes of shutting down the income tax industry and the IRS; however, the proposal has had little traction since it would further shift the tax burden from the wealthy to the working class.

A more popular proposal is known as the Fair Tax. Essentially, the Fair Tax is a national sales tax designed to entirely eliminate the income tax and individual tax filings.

Proponents, including the Cato Institute, envision a tax of 18% to 23% on the final sales of all goods and services. There would be no tax on exports, intermediate business transactions, or security transactions.

To help counteract the inherently regressive effect of sales taxes on the poor, everyone, including the wealthy, would receive monthly rebates allowing the annual expenditure of an amount equal to the federal poverty level to be tax free.

Motivated by the collapse of the banking industry and the current recession, several commentators have proposed a tax on financial transactions to not only raise tax revenues, but to also restrain the insane trading that caused the crash.

Taking into consideration that, in 2008, the annual trading of over-the-counter derivatives amounted to $743 trillion globally, financial author Ellen Hodgson Brown has proposed the imposition of a .005% to 1% tax on the short-term speculation in currency transactions, commodities, stocks and derivatives.

Currently, these transactions are not taxed at all, allowing banks, such as Goldman Sachs, to pay an income tax of only 1%. This, even though Goldman Sachs is gambling with a $167 billion stake using sophisticated trading software that allows it to place high-speed bets that cheat ordinary investors.

Paul Krugman of The New York Times has also endorsed the idea of a financial transaction tax based on the 1972 proposal by James Tobin, a Yale professor who won the Nobel Prize for economics.

It was Tobin's view that the world economy was being disrupted by currency speculation in which money moved around the world as bets on the fluctuations in exchange rates. Tobin believed that the imposition of a small tax on every currency transaction would disrupt the currency gamblers, while imposing a trivial burden on those legitimately engaged in foreign trade or long-term investment.

Dean Baker of the Center for Economic and Policy Research believes a modest 0.25% "financial transactions tax" on the trade of stocks, futures, credit default swaps, and other financial instruments would produce more than $140 billion a year. He believes that it is only fair to have the financial sector bear the brunt of the tax, rather than workers, who would have to pay a national sales or value-added tax.

Adair Turner, the Chairman of England's Financial Services Authority, has proposed a tax on all financial transactions to discourage "socially useless" activities. Prime Minister Gordon Brown endorsed the proposal, which he presented to the Group of 20 meeting in November.

Although U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner disagreed with Brown, saying a "day-by-day" tax on speculation is "not something we're prepared to support," President Obama has signaled he might consider new fees on financial companies engaging in "far out transactions."

House Democratic leaders are currently considering a tax on financial transactions to fund a jobs bill, and Rep. Peter DeFazio (D-OR) actually introduced a bill to tax short-term speculation in some securities earlier this year.

An Even Smarter and Simpler Tax

Wouldn't it be more sensible and much fairer to simply tax the movement of all money in our economy? Not a sales tax, not a value-added tax, not a flat income tax, not a speculation tax, but rather a simple toll on every financial transaction that occurs within our economic system. Not just every time you buy a pack of chewing gum, but every time stocks and bonds are bought and sold, every time currencies are traded, and every time Haliburton invests in a new oil rig.

Since the working-, middle- and small-business-classes have far fewer and much smaller financial transactions, the wealthy and the multinational corporations, who always have to spend a lot of money to avoid having any "taxable income," would have to share proportionally in paying the toll for their traffic on our economic highway and their use of our courts and institutions to enforce their contracts and to facilitate their profits. Why should so many of our largest corporations completely escape the payment of any taxes?

It is likely that the federal government could operate on the revenues produced by a simple transaction tax of much less than 10% on the movement of money. In addition, the payment of taxes would shift to those who most benefit from the services of our government, from individuals to the corporations and from the laboring poor to the wealthy elite.

Envision the effect of a slight touch every time money moves, a tiny ka-ching in the U.S. Treasury's cash register, which in the aggregate would quickly add up to more than a trillion dollars each year. Think about the debate in Congress as to whether the tax rate should be 6.25% or 6.27% for the next year. The difference could produce billions.

Imagine that most of us might only have to pay an annual tax rate of perhaps 6.25% on our spending (income). The transaction tax would result in an increase in the overall cost of the goods and services we purchase; however, the toll would apply to all financial transactions, including the purchase of limousines and spas by the wealthy, who rely on every imaginable scheme to avoid having any "income" upon which to pay taxes.

Those who enjoy luxuries would pay more for them, and those who gamble in the money markets would have to pay for their visit to the economic casino.

A tax on all financial transactions would be far more equitable than a "flat" income tax, which would eliminate the progressive tax rates that require a greater contribution from those who most profit from our economy. A flat income tax would further shift the burden of taxation from corporations and the wealthy, who hide their money, to the rest of us who have our taxes withheld from our salaries.

There would, however, be a benefit for the wealthy in that a transaction tax would eliminate the progressive income tax rates to the extent they still exist. The rich would simply pay their fair share based on what they spend and upon their monetary manipulations.

A transaction tax would be similar in some respects to a value-added tax; however, it would apply to all financial transactions, including those intermediate sales involved in the production of all goods and services, not just in manufacturing, and it would be paid at every stage, not just at the end.

A transaction tax was believed to pose impossible accounting problems when first proposed by James Tobin 40 years ago; however, computer technology now allows for instantaneous posting of all financial transactions. Just as a worker's income tax contribution is withheld from his or her payroll check every week, it should be possible for the tax on financial transactions be paid every single day at the close of business.

Policy Issues

To encourage savings, money invested in Social Security, federally-insured savings accounts, 401(k)s, IRAs, and the earned interest should not be taxed until it is withdrawn and spent.

To encourage investment, capital gains should not be taxed until they are realized and spent, and investments should not be taxed until they are sold and the proceeds are spent.

To encourage giving, donors should not be taxed; however, the recipient should pay a tax when the gift is received or the money is spent.

A smart and simple tax would operate somewhat like the income tax in that individuals and corporations would have to prepare an annual tax report, rather than as a sales tax where the revenue is collected at the time of the transaction. For most individuals, businesses and corporations the preparation of tax returns would be greatly simplified.

Let's say a married couple earns $100,000 of joint income. Employers would still file 1099 and W2 forms, and the couple would file a return setting forth their "income." They would then deduct the amount paid for their own health insurance, including Medicare payments, and further reduce their transactions by the amount paid into social security, IRAs, 401k plans, and into federally insured savings accounts.

Tax payers could further reduce the amount earned by what they gave away.

When all the deductions are added up and credited against their income, the difference would be what they had actually "spent" for the year. That would be the amount taxed – at a very low rate.

There would also be great benefits to businesses and corporations. To the extent they are owned by U.S. citizens and that salaries are paid to citizens, businesses, corporations and other organizations should not have to pay a transaction tax on their payroll, as salaries would be directly passed through to their employees to spend (and to be taxed).

Thus, if 100% of a corporation's stock is owned by American citizens, or other businesses or corporations that are in turn owned entirely by American citizens, the corporation should not have to pay any taxes on the salaries paid to American workers. Or, if 50% is owned by citizens, the corporation should only have to pay half of the payroll transaction tax.

The transaction tax would be paid on payrolls to American workers by foreign owners as the price of their access to the services of our healthy and well-educated workers and to our free-market economy and system of justice.

Payrolls paid to foreign workers by American corporations would also be subject to the transaction tax, as the money would not pass through into our economy. Wouldn't this policy slow down the current trend of "outsourcing" American jobs offshore to other countries?

Inasmuch as there is a movement of money when foreign imports cross our borders, tariffs could be replaced by the up-front collection of the transaction tax when foreign corporations transfer their products to their American subsidiaries or when they sell to American businesses. The movement of goods into and out of the United States would represent a taxable transaction.

Foreign registration and ownership of U.S. patents, copyrights, and other legal protections should also carry a toll on all protected transactions, requiring non-citizens to share the cost of our courts to enforce their rights.

While a good case might be made for a few public policy tax deductions or exemptions, such as the interest on home mortgages and other state and local taxes, the final result should be a very broad-based, smart and simple tax that benefits everyone.

Last Word

We do not have to willing endure corrupt government and unfair taxation. We, who pay the taxes, must make the essential decisions about the methods of taxation and the level of payment. Otherwise, we live in slavery and our freedoms are illusionary.




Author's Website: http://www.thevoters.org

Author's Bio: William John Cox authored the Policy Manual of the Los Angeles Police Department and the Role of the Police in America for a National Advisory Commission during the Nixon administration. As a public interest, pro bono, attorney, he filed a class action lawsuit in 1979 petitioning the Supreme Court to order a National Policy Referendum; he investigated and successfully sued a group of radical right-wing organizations in 1981 that denied the Holocaust; and he arranged in 1991 for the publication of the suppressed Dead Sea Scrolls. His recent book, You're Not Stupid! Get the Truth: A Brief on the Bush Presidency is reviewed at www.yourenotstupid.com.

HOW ABOUT WE JUST TAX PEOPLE WHO HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR MIDDLE CLASS STANDARD OF LIVING?
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:13 AM
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15. Senate jobs bill: What's missing
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Senate Democrats' draft plan for job creation, circulated Tuesday, contains a couple of employment measures and a lot of leftover business.

What's not included in the $85 billion draft legislation is additional funds for states or stimulus money for infrastructure, which Republicans have said they will not support. ...

While Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said lawmakers need to pass a jobs bill this week, Republicans were not so sure. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said GOP lawmakers need to know more about the package. ...

What's in the bill

The central feature of the 362-page bill is a payroll tax credit for businesses who hire and retain the unemployed. The measure, crafted by Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., and Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, spares businesses from paying Social Security taxes on new hires who had been unemployed for at least 60 days. The proposal is expected to garner bipartisan support.

The legislation would also extend the deadline to file for federal unemployment benefits and the 65% Cobra health insurance subsidy to May 31. They currently expire at month's end.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/09/news/economy/jobs_bill/index.htm



If it is not already as obvious as the ocean is salty - Republicans desire to make the Senate as moribund as possible to improve their election chances in November.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:15 AM
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16. What's Missing Is the "Jobs" Part
They got the "Bill" section covered.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:21 AM
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18. Indeed.
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 06:25 AM by ozymandius
And good point, Demeter.

It reads more like a job cessation bill. The federal government will provide, as it should, the substance of survival while people are out of a job. I just do not see where the jobs are being created from this piece of legislation. There is a capital construction projects provision. But where's the substance?

I like the House bill much better because of specificity in its goals. Infrastructure improvements will have an almost immediate impact on job creation. That provision alone is evidently anathema to Republican tastes. Wonder why...?
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:33 AM
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19. Rail Traffic Flat in January Compared to 2009
From the Association of American Railroads: Rail Time Indicators. The AAR reports traffic in January 2010 was off down 0.7% compared to January 2009.

... From AAR:
• U.S. freight railroads originated 1,056,684 carloads in January 2010, an average of 264,171 carloads per week — down 0.7% from January 2009 (265,983 average) and down 17.7% from January 2008’s 321,040 average.

• Carloads excluding coal were up 11.3% (58,467 carloads) in January 2010 from January 2009, though they were still down 19.9% from January 2008. ...

• The biggest carload percentage gain in January 2010 went to motor vehicles and parts, carloads of which were up 65.7% in January 2010 from January 2009’s severely depressed level.
http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2010/02/rail-traffic-flat-in-january-compared.html



more stimulus activity moving the numbers...

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:39 AM
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20. Well, I Have to Get Dressed and Go Shovel
Will all the people wishing snow upon me please stop now?

Have a good one, Ozy and all!
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:11 AM
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27. We will need to shovel again

I can't believe all this snow, another 10 inches yesterday, and we already had 10 inches from Saturday. I am ready for summer!


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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 02:18 PM
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37. White out: Snowstorm forces rare delays of economic reports
By Associated Press February 10, 2010 A severe snowstorm has forced the federal government to do something it seldom does — postpone release of several monthly economic reports.

The Treasury Department announced that the release of the monthly budget report for January, which had been scheduled for Wednesday, will not occur until next week.

The Commerce Department announced at least a one-day delay for release of its report on January retail sales and the monthly look at business inventories. Both reports, which had been scheduled to be released Thursday, were tenatively scheduled to be released a day late on Friday.

Officials said the delays were caused by the government shutdown in Washington which has meant that about 230,000 federal workers have been off since Friday afternoon.

/. http://www.investmentnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100210/FREE/100219987/-1/RSS02&rssfeed=RSS02
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 04:11 PM
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44. That should probably read: Snowstorm Gives Government More Time to Doctor And Fudge Economic Reports
So that the obvious collapse that is going on can be masked a little longer, at least into the end of the Month or early March.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:53 AM
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21. dollar watch


http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?acs=NYBOT_DX&v=i

Last trade 79.752 Change -0.111 (-0.14%)

Dollar Retreats as Rumor of Financial Aid for Greece Jump Starts Risk Appetite

http://www.dailyfx.com/forex/fundamental/daily_briefing/session_briefing/daily_fundamentals/2010-02-10-0537-Dollar_Retreats_as_Rumor_of.html

There is rarely a trend that does not find at least a few pauses in its development. This is as far as we can reasonably go in calling for a reversal in risk appetite and the US dollar. Nonetheless, the fundamental shock the world’s most liquid currency would suffer through Tuesday’s session was incontrovertible. In fact, the ripples that would emanate from speculation that either Germany or the European Union was ready to bail Greece out from its current predicament would reach far and wide. Not only did the greenback suffer its biggest daily loss since November 27th; but other distinctly risk-sensitive markets would put in for their own bullish shift. Notably, the Dow Jones Industrial Average put in for a 1.5 percent rally that would conspicuously pull the index back above the 10,000-mark and crude oil would climb back above $72.50 following its own 2.5 percent advance. Why would a financial rescue in Europe have such a profound impact on global sentiment? Just like the reaction to the potential Dubai World default (and subsequent rescue) back in November; the financial troubles that Greece is currently suffering are a reflection of the how interconnected the global markets are and investors’ susceptibility to threats that are reminiscent of the 2008 financial crisis. An objective look at a possible bailout for this single country (see more below) does little to stabilize the entire Euro Zone. On the other hand, sentiment is rarely rational. The winds of risk appetite can change so long as the majority of investors in all the assets and countries support it.

For the dollar’s part in the evolution of sentiment trends, it is highly unlikely that its status as a safe haven and funding currency will change in the near future. The greenback’s position on the risk spectrum will be especially secure while risk appetite is changing – a condition that will be around for some time to come. In the meantime, the dollar will continue to build its own fundamental appeal outside of its value as a temporary harbor for international funds. One of the key ingredients for moving the currency up the risk spectrum is developing a time frame for the eventual hawkish shift from the Federal Reserve. The consensus among economists is that the central bank will not move until late fall and the market is pricing in only 68 basis points worth of tightening over the coming 12 months. This may seem modest; but relative to its most of its counterparts, it puts the greenback at an advantage. To further bolster the forecasts, market participants will have to interpret economic data. Today’s event risk was relatively light; but the fundamental weight is carries is considerable. The NFIB Small Business Optimism Index rose to 16-month high 89.3 for its January reading. Increases in sales and demand forecasts helped to offset a bearish view of expansion. The real value in this data is the fact that small businesses account for the majority of American jobs. An outlook of limited expansion suggests employers will not be adding to payrolls at a critical period of recovery for the economy. Looking ahead to tomorrow, the December trade balance figure is top event risk; but Fed commentary on the financial crisis and systemic risk will be applicable to today’s markets.

...more...


USD Graphic Rewind 02.10

http://www.dailyfx.com/forex/fundamental/article/usd_graphic_rewind/2010-02-10-0707-USD_Graphic_Rewind_02_10.html



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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:58 AM
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22. Debt: 02/08/2010 12,347,902,954,531.73 (UP 2,392,298,381.70) (Mon)
(Up a bit. Debt seems to jump up big then drop slowly maybe up a little and down a little for days--repeat. Well snowed today. Good day to all.)

= Held by the Public + Intragovernmental(FICA)
= 7,840,438,774,359.10 + 4,507,464,180,172.63
UP 119,837,978.11 + UP 2,272,460,403.59

Source: Debt to the penny:
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

THINKING IN BILLIONS: Think 3 or 4 dollars per billion in a 309-Million person America.
If every American, man, woman and child puts in $3.24 each THAT'S 1B$.
A family of three: Mom, Dad, Child: $9.72, ABOUT TEN BUCKS for a 1B$ federal program.
I hope that is clear. However, I'd suggest using $3 per 1B$ to underestimate it.
Use $4 per 1B$ to overestimate the cost when thinking: Is the federal program worth it?
Aid to Dependant Children: 2B$/yr =$8/yr(a movie a year) Family of 3: $24/yr(an hour of bowling)

PERSONALIZED DEBT:
Every 10 seconds we net gain another American, so at the end of the workday of the report, there should be 308,685,918 people in America.
http://www.census.gov/population/www/popclockus.html ON 11/07/2009 08:19 -> 307,879,272
Currently, each of these Americans owe $40,001.51.
A family of three owes $120,004.53. (And that is IN ADDITION to their mortgage.)

ANALYSIS:
There were 21 reports in the last 30 to 31 days.
The average for the last 21 reports is 3,204,683,651.72.
The average for the last 30 days would be 2,243,278,556.21.
The average for the last 31 days would be 2,170,914,731.81.
There were 252 reports in 365 days of FY2007 averaging 1.99B$ per report, 1.37B$/day.
There were 253 reports in 366 days of FY2008 averaging 4.02B$ per report, 2.78B$/day.
There were 75 reports in 112 days of GWB's part of FY2009 averaging 8.03B$ per report, 5.38B$/day.
There were 174 reports in 253 days of Obama's part of FY2009 averaging 7.33B$ per report, 5.07B$/day so far.
There were 249 reports in 365 days of FY2009 averaging 7.57B$ per report, 5.16B$/day.
There were 88 reports in 131 days of FY2010 averaging 4.98B$ per report, 3.34B$/day.
Above line should be okay

PROJECTION:
There are 1,077 days remaining in this Obama 1st term.
By that time the debt could be between 13.8 and 17.9T$.
It could be higher. It could be lower.

HISTORICAL:
President's term begins and ends on Jan 20.
(Guess who might want to hide the Reagan Bush years. Jan 20 data is missing before 1993.)
01/20/1993 _4,188,092,107,183.60 WJC Inaugural
01/22/2001 _5,728,195,796,181.57 WJC (UP 1,540,103,688,997.97)
01/20/2009 10,626,877,048,913.08 GWB (UP 4,898,681,252,731.43)
02/08/2010 12,347,902,954,531.73 BHO (UP 1,721,025,905,618.65 so far since Obama took office.)

FISCAL YEAR DEBT CHANGE, Sep 30 prior year to Sep 30 named year:
(One "* " for each 40B$ reached)
FY1994 +0,281,261,026,873.94 ------------* * * * * * * WJC
FY1995 +0,281,232,990,696.07 ------------* * * * * * * WJC
FY1996 +0,250,828,038,426.34 ------------* * * * * * WJC
FY1997 +0,188,335,072,261.61 ------------* * * * WJC
FY1998 +0,113,046,997,500.28 ------------* * WJC
FY1999 +0,130,077,892,735.81 ------------* * * WJC
FY2000 +0,017,907,308,253.43 ------------WJC
FY2001 +0,133,285,202,313.20 ------------* * * C&B
01-WJC +0,053,598,528,417.78 ------------* WJC 31% of FY, 40% of FY-Debt
01-GWB +0,079,686,673,895.42 ------------* GWB 69% of FY, 60% of FY-Debt
FY2002 +0,420,772,553,397.10 ------------* * * * * * * * * * GWB
FY2003 +0,554,995,097,146.46 ------------* * * * * * * * * * * * * GWB
FY2004 +0,595,821,633,586.70 ------------* * * * * * * * * * * * * * GWB
FY2005 +0,553,656,965,393.18 ------------* * * * * * * * * * * * * GWB
FY2006 +0,574,264,237,491.73 ------------* * * * * * * * * * * * * * GWB
FY2007 +0,500,679,473,047.25 ------------* * * * * * * * * * * * GWB
FY2008 +1,017,071,524,649.92 ------------* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * GWB
FY2009 +1,885,104,106,599.30 ------------* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * B&O
09GWB +0,602,152,152,000.60 ------------* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * GWB 31% of FY, 32% of FY-Debt
09-BHO +1,282,951,954,598.70 ------------* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * BHO 69% of FY, 68% of FY-Debt
FY2010 +0,438,073,951,020.00 ------------* * * * * * * * * * BHO
Endof10 +1,220,587,726,124.43 ------------* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Linear Projection

LAST FIFTEEN REPORTS OF ADDITIONS TO PUBLIC DEBT(NOT FICA):
01/19/2010 -000,292,818,574.91 --- Tue
01/20/2010 +001,498,198,188.82 ------------*********
01/21/2010 -031,161,420,148.11 -
01/22/2010 -000,070,049,877.74 ----
01/25/2010 -000,041,466,126.01 ---- Mon
01/26/2010 +000,973,181,275.87 ------------********
01/27/2010 +000,063,416,019.94 ------------*******
01/28/2010 -024,245,578,618.07 -
01/29/2010 -000,416,981,206.21 ---
02/01/2010 +090,319,223,365.33 ------------********** Mon
02/02/2010 -000,066,012,400.47 ----
02/03/2010 +000,334,538,130.44 ------------********
02/04/2010 -009,677,289,403.68 --
02/05/2010 -000,081,816,346.60 ----
02/08/2010 +000,119,837,978.11 ------------******** Mon

27,254,962,256.71 Total of 15 above reports.

Heavy borrowing seems to start after 09/18/2008 while Bush was in power JUST BEFORE fiscal year end.
Bush admin borrowed $962,245,245,654.01 in those last 124 days in office crossing two fiscal years.
$360,093,093,653.42 in last 12 days of FY2008, and $602,152,152,000.59 in subsequent 112 days before leaving office.

For a prettier and more explanatory view of our nation's debt:
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
DUer primer on National debt

(Debt to the penny keeps changing. Stuff is missing. Best to keep our own history.) LAST REPORT:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4261865&mesg_id=4261922
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:06 PM
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39. Debt: 02/09/2010 12,349,467,132,738.49 (UP 1,564,178,206.76) (Tue)
(Up a bit. Debt seems to jump up big then drop slowly maybe up a little and down a little for days--repeat. Loving the snow. Good day all.)

= Held by the Public + Intragovernmental(FICA)
= 7,840,806,790,629.45 + 4,508,660,342,109.04
UP 368,016,270.35 + UP 1,196,161,936.41

Source: Debt to the penny:
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

THINKING IN BILLIONS: Think 3 or 4 dollars per billion in a 309-Million person America.
If every American, man, woman and child puts in $3.24 each THAT'S 1B$.
A family of three: Mom, Dad, Child: $9.72, ABOUT TEN BUCKS for a 1B$ federal program.
I hope that is clear. However, I'd suggest using $3 per 1B$ to underestimate it.
Use $4 per 1B$ to overestimate the cost when thinking: Is the federal program worth it?
Aid to Dependant Children: 2B$/yr =$8/yr(a movie a year) Family of 3: $24/yr(an hour of bowling)

PERSONALIZED DEBT:
Every 10 seconds we net gain another American, so at the end of the workday of the report, there should be 308,694,558 people in America.
http://www.census.gov/population/www/popclockus.html ON 11/07/2009 08:19 -> 307,879,272
Currently, each of these Americans owe $40,005.46.
A family of three owes $120,016.37. (And that is IN ADDITION to their mortgage.)

ANALYSIS:
There were 22 reports in the last 30 to 32 days.
The average for the last 22 reports is 3,130,115,222.40.
The average for the last 30 days would be 2,295,417,829.76.
The average for the last 32 days would be 2,151,954,215.40.
There were 252 reports in 365 days of FY2007 averaging 1.99B$ per report, 1.37B$/day.
There were 253 reports in 366 days of FY2008 averaging 4.02B$ per report, 2.78B$/day.
There were 75 reports in 112 days of GWB's part of FY2009 averaging 8.03B$ per report, 5.38B$/day.
There were 174 reports in 253 days of Obama's part of FY2009 averaging 7.33B$ per report, 5.07B$/day so far.
There were 249 reports in 365 days of FY2009 averaging 7.57B$ per report, 5.16B$/day.
There were 89 reports in 132 days of FY2010 averaging 4.94B$ per report, 3.33B$/day.
Above line should be okay

PROJECTION:
There are 1,076 days remaining in this Obama 1st term.
By that time the debt could be between 13.8 and 17.9T$.
It could be higher. It could be lower.

HISTORICAL:
President's term begins and ends on Jan 20.
(Guess who might want to hide the Reagan Bush years. Jan 20 data is missing before 1993.)
01/20/1993 _4,188,092,107,183.60 WJC Inaugural
01/22/2001 _5,728,195,796,181.57 WJC (UP 1,540,103,688,997.97)
01/20/2009 10,626,877,048,913.08 GWB (UP 4,898,681,252,731.43)
02/09/2010 12,349,467,132,738.49 BHO (UP 1,722,590,083,825.41 so far since Obama took office.)

FISCAL YEAR DEBT CHANGE, Sep 30 prior year to Sep 30 named year:
(One "* " for each 40B$ reached)
FY1994 +0,281,261,026,873.94 ------------* * * * * * * WJC
FY1995 +0,281,232,990,696.07 ------------* * * * * * * WJC
FY1996 +0,250,828,038,426.34 ------------* * * * * * WJC
FY1997 +0,188,335,072,261.61 ------------* * * * WJC
FY1998 +0,113,046,997,500.28 ------------* * WJC
FY1999 +0,130,077,892,735.81 ------------* * * WJC
FY2000 +0,017,907,308,253.43 ------------WJC
FY2001 +0,133,285,202,313.20 ------------* * * C&B
01-WJC +0,053,598,528,417.78 ------------* WJC 31% of FY, 40% of FY-Debt
01-GWB +0,079,686,673,895.42 ------------* GWB 69% of FY, 60% of FY-Debt
FY2002 +0,420,772,553,397.10 ------------* * * * * * * * * * GWB
FY2003 +0,554,995,097,146.46 ------------* * * * * * * * * * * * * GWB
FY2004 +0,595,821,633,586.70 ------------* * * * * * * * * * * * * * GWB
FY2005 +0,553,656,965,393.18 ------------* * * * * * * * * * * * * GWB
FY2006 +0,574,264,237,491.73 ------------* * * * * * * * * * * * * * GWB
FY2007 +0,500,679,473,047.25 ------------* * * * * * * * * * * * GWB
FY2008 +1,017,071,524,649.92 ------------* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * GWB
FY2009 +1,885,104,106,599.30 ------------* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * B&O
09GWB +0,602,152,152,000.60 ------------* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * GWB 31% of FY, 32% of FY-Debt
09-BHO +1,282,951,954,598.70 ------------* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * BHO 69% of FY, 68% of FY-Debt
FY2010 +0,439,638,129,226.70 ------------* * * * * * * * * * BHO
Endof10 +1,215,666,039,149.59 ------------* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Linear Projection

LAST FIFTEEN REPORTS OF ADDITIONS TO PUBLIC DEBT(NOT FICA):
01/20/2010 +001,498,198,188.82 ------------*********
01/21/2010 -031,161,420,148.11 -
01/22/2010 -000,070,049,877.74 ----
01/25/2010 -000,041,466,126.01 ---- Mon
01/26/2010 +000,973,181,275.87 ------------********
01/27/2010 +000,063,416,019.94 ------------*******
01/28/2010 -024,245,578,618.07 -
01/29/2010 -000,416,981,206.21 ---
02/01/2010 +090,319,223,365.33 ------------********** Mon
02/02/2010 -000,066,012,400.47 ----
02/03/2010 +000,334,538,130.44 ------------********
02/04/2010 -009,677,289,403.68 --
02/05/2010 -000,081,816,346.60 ----
02/08/2010 +000,119,837,978.11 ------------******** Mon
02/09/2010 +000,368,016,270.35 ------------********

27,915,797,101.97 Total of 15 above reports.

Heavy borrowing seems to start after 09/18/2008 while Bush was in power JUST BEFORE fiscal year end.
Bush admin borrowed $962,245,245,654.01 in those last 124 days in office crossing two fiscal years.
$360,093,093,653.42 in last 12 days of FY2008, and $602,152,152,000.59 in subsequent 112 days before leaving office.

For a prettier and more explanatory view of our nation's debt:
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
DUer primer on National debt

(Debt to the penny keeps changing. Stuff is missing. Best to keep our own history.) LAST REPORT:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4263435&mesg_id=4263487
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:04 AM
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24. John Roque - From Goldman to Citi: All Financials in the Same (Sinking) Boat
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 09:06 AM by DemReadingDU
click link for video

2/10/10 From Goldman to Citi: All Financials in the Same (Sinking) Boat, John Roque Says

Late last autumn, John Roque technical analyst with WJB Capital Group, made a bold call, telling clients to sell Goldman Sachs. Soon thereafter, the stock soared to nearly $180 but has stumbled steadily since then, settling Tuesday at $152.49.

Today, there remains little reason to buy the "best of breed" financial stock, Roque tells Aaron in the accompanying clip, citing the following:

* -- Goldman’s trading below it’s 50- and 200-day moving average.
* -- The stock already had a massive bounce off the 2009 lows.
* -- Volume on the NYSE has slowed and the financial services industry is facing regulatory and political headwinds.

It's not just Goldman Sachs; Roque believes the entire financial sector will lag the rest of the market for years and fears Citigroup is on track to retest its 2009 lows below $1.

Like the semiconductor industry after the tech bubble burst, investors now need to "look for new leadership" following the recent credit-driven crash, he says. "The repair process is often fraught with a lot of difficulty."

Like financials and their 2009 bounce, semiconductors had a strong rebound off the 2002 lows. However, years later the Philadelphia Semiconductor Index (SOX) remains well off its post-crash high. "History is replete with examples of items that were leaders in one cycle and when that leadership is broken, they don’t come back for a generation," Roque says.

click link for video
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/from-goldman-to-citi-all-financials-in-the-same-(sinking)-boat-john-roque-says-421770.html?
or
http://tinyurl.com/yzfhrkn


edit to correct link


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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:10 AM
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25. Trade deficit jumps sharply in December
WASHINGTON – The government says the trade deficit surged to a larger-than-expected $40.18 billion in December, the biggest imbalance in 12 months. The wider deficit reflected a rebounding economy that is pushing up demand for imports.

The Commerce Department said the December deficit was 10.4 percent higher than the November imbalance. It was much larger than the $36 billion deficit that economists had expected.

For all of 2009, the deficit totaled $380.66 billion, the smallest imbalance in eight years, as a deep recession cut into imports. However, economists believe the deficit will rise in 2010 as U.S. demand for imports outpaces U.S. export sales.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:08 AM
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30. Weasley Chopper Ben Spews
Bernanke repeats rates low for 'extended period'
10:00 a.m. Today

Bernanke: Fed may sell assets when growth robust
10:00 a.m. Today

Bernanke pledges no asset sales in near term
10:00 a.m. Today

Hiking discount rate not tightening, Bernanke
10:00 a.m. Today

Fed may raise discount rate, Bernanke says
10:00 a.m. Today

Fed will be ready to reverse policy, Bernanke says
10:00 a.m. Today

Bernanke says economy still needs low rate policy
10:00 a.m. Today

Fed to be flexible on tightening tools, Bernanke
10:00 a.m. Today

Timing of exit will be data-dependent: Bernanke
10:00 a.m. Today
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:10 AM
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31. Michael Hudson interview on KPFA Guns and Butter

2/3/10 Guns and Butter - Obama's Republican Class War Presidency
"Obama's Republican Class War Presidency" with financial economist, Michael Hudson, on Obama's State of the Union Speech and its economic consequences. The reappointment Federal Reserve Chairman, Ben Bernanke.

http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/58336

You can listen at the link, or download to your IPOD/MP3. Appx 1 hour.
If you regularly post or read the SMW, it is worthwhile to hear this audio.



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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:39 AM
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32. Stoneleigh audio interview - The Automatic Earth

Stoneleigh is the most fascinating financial person I have ever read.
She is a co-editor of The Automatic Earth finance forum, http://theautomaticearth.blogspot.com/
In this interview, Stoneleigh discusses deflation, Ponzis, energy, and more. Very Highly Recommended

Click this link from the KBOO-FM server to download podcast to hear Stoneleigh's recent broadcast radio interview in Portland
(28 minutes, 26 MB download)
http://www.kboo.org/node/19246

Or direct link to audio
http://www.kboo.org/audio/download/19246/0119%20Stoneleigh%20The%20Automatic%20Earth%20%28final%29%20for%20web.mp3

Some background about Stoneleigh...

9/2/09 Stoneleigh: I have four degrees - two in science and two in law from four different universities in two different countries. I used to be an academic in the energy field in the UK and now I work in renewable energy here in Canada. Finance and market dynamics have been great interests of mine for a very long time. I've always taken a highly interdisciplinary approach to everything in my attempt to construct a big enough big picture. Complexity fascinates me.

more...
http://theautomaticearth.blogspot.com/2009/09/september-2-2009-slow-boat-to-rare.html?showComment=1251905724661#c973423197798278871


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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 01:18 PM
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36. Just saw this: Obama softens stance on Wall Street bonuses
US president says leading bankers are 'very savvy' and says having wealth is 'part of the free-market system'

Andrew Clark New York

President Barack Obama has praised the bosses of Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan as "very savvy" and insisted he does not "begrudge" them their success and wealth, in a significant softening of the White House's attitude towards multimillion-dollar Wall Street bonuses.

Once a staunch critic of outsized pay packets, Obama adopted a strikingly consensual tone when asked this week about a $9m (£5.8m) bonus awarded to Goldman's Lloyd Blankfein and a $17m (£11m) payday granted to JP Morgan's Jamie Dimon.

"I know both those guys, they are very savvy businessmen," Obama said in a interview with Bloomberg's BusinessWeek magazine. "I, like most of the American people, don't begrudge people success or wealth. That is part of the free-market system."

Equating the banking bosses with top sports stars, Obama agreed that Dimon's $17m pay packet was "an extraordinary amount of money" in high-street terms, but added: "There are some baseball players who are making more than that and don't get to the World Series either, so I'm shocked by that as well."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/feb/10/obama-wall-street-bonuses
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 02:59 PM
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38. Nobody saw that coming!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Can anybody see campaign contributions coming....again?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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hamerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:11 PM
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40. Sweet Jee-Bus!
Granted, the average American is not overly sharp. But these politicians are not even hiding it any more! I think I need to find a cave far, far away....
hamerfan
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skoalyman Donating Member (751 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 04:05 PM
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41. Here we go
I know both those guys, they are very savvy (crooked) businessmen," Obama said in a interview with Bloomberg's BusinessWeek magazine. "I, like most of the American people, don't begrudge people (greed)success or (ill gotten) wealth. That is part of the (mafia style)free-market system.






God bless who ever gave me a heart thanks:hi:
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 04:22 PM
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46. OF COURSE He Did.
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 04:23 PM by TheWatcher
He is merely letting everyone know in a most eloquent, pretty spoken way who he works for.

More evidence that you can't believe anything this little wordsmith says.

Change That You Were Tricked Into Believing In.

Of course, if you post this article outside of this thread, everyone will just say it's a conspiracy theory, it doesn't exist, he was taken out of context, "he never said that during the campaign", or that whoever wrote the article is a Republican Operative. (Never mind that the damn article was written in THE UK.)

skoalyman had it right in the post above.

This is such a fucking joke.

To Paraphrase Sean Conney from Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade:

You Call This Representative Government?"

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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 04:31 PM
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48. Why don't we just give up and introduce a system of Nobility in America.
It could be a revenue producing program, too. For $1M you can buy a knighthood. For $1B you can become a duke or duchess. And the rest of us have to get use to saying, "Yes, Milord," and "Thank you, Your Grace," and "If you say so, Your Excellency."
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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 04:35 PM
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49. The market is about back to what it was in November.
Does that mean December and January were some sort of bubble? If so, a bubble for what? Did somebody start selling a new strain of tulips again?
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