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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:01 PM
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Republicans say they'll work with Obama on GOP ideas
Source: USA Today

Republicans say they'll work with Obama on GOP ideas

Republican leaders said today they can work with President Obama on a variety of items he supports -- all of which happen to be long-standing Republican proposals as well.

A revival of nuclear power; more off-shore drilling for oil and gas; development of "clean coal" technology; and passage of long-standing free trade agreements with Colombia, Panama, and South Korea .

These proposals also have varying amounts of opposition among congressional Democrats -- though, as McConnell pointed out, Obama endorsed each one in his recent State of the Union speech.

"These will be job generators," said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., after bipartisan leaders meeting with President Obama.

Read more: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/02/republicans-say-theyll-work-with-obama-on-gop-ideas/1
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:04 PM
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1. In that case, why doesn't he just go ahead formally make himself a Republican.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:07 PM
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4. That's what I thought, too. Has a sitting President ever changed parties?
Gee, if Obama would change parties, the GOP wouldn't need Michael Steele any longer. :puke:

This isn't the change I voted for.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:30 PM
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10. I believe President Tyler was publically expelled from the Whig party
and ran neither as a Democrat nor Whig in his reelection bid.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:43 PM
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21. good idea
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 07:58 PM
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27. Can we do that? I'd hate for America to think DLCers, New Democrats, Third Way and
the Democratic Party are all interchangeable. If so, the only point in voting out a Republican would be that the Republican is not sufficiently PNAC for your tastes.

Please, somebody, help my country. Obviously, I don't how to help my country because that is what I thought I was doing in 2007, when I gave more than I could to Obama's primary campaign.

BTW, thanks for the info on Tyler. Very interesting Whig Presidency, as in the Chinese curse, "May you live in interesting times."
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 07:05 PM
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25. Oh, maybe that's what he meant when he campaigned on "change."
You work and vote for a Democrat, but then he changes Parties.

Gotta say, I misunderstood that one completely. My bad. *smacks forehead*
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:16 PM
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6. +1
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:24 PM
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8. Agree . .. !! It's outrageous . . . !!!
:eyes:
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 08:07 PM
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31. I have thought about that more than once.
Obama is sharing too much common ground with the republicans.

Now with Obama's nod to "Drill baby, Drill" offshore drilling, he and Palin could be running mates.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:22 PM
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36. Yeah, and then he can be more like Reagan, who he admires so much.
I knew we were in for trouble when we found out that Obama was a Reagan baby.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:04 PM
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2. Yes, Lucy. Of course you won't pull the football away this time.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:05 PM
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3. "Rubber" meet "Road."
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:14 PM
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5. See, bi-partisanship is easy.
Just give the Rethugs what they want.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:22 PM
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7. What worries me is that Obama WILL work with the GOP -- !!!
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 03:24 PM by defendandprotect
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 12:11 AM
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38. No kidding. I think this is totally shameful.
Democrats should not allow any repuke ideas WHATSOEVER into the mix. Their ideas have been tried and have completely failed. Their ideas is what got us IN to this mess.

Shame on the President for this.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:24 PM
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9. It's all about repub ideas?
Now I understand why that other thread on this was posted.
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D-Lee Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:34 PM
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11. Guys, what did you think "bi-partisanship" meant?
It meant using some Republican ideas (where they have ideas -- LOL!)

Let's hope it doesn't get too bad ... but a lot of these things were mentioned in the campaign.
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Kweli4Real Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:43 PM
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20. You are so correct ...
about bi-partisanship AND the fact that most of this stuff he campaigned on. But it is clear that people saw and heard what they wanted to see and hear.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:57 PM
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23. No. It's just that we expected a Democratic President to put forth Democratic ideas
and then let the Republicans put forth Republican ideas, combining the two.

Here, we have a theoretically Democratic President and a theoretically Democratic Senate starting off with Republican/corporate ideas, then letting the Republicans make them even less democratic. That is not change.

Where's the representation for the Democrats? And weren't the Republicans saying not so long ago that elections have consequences?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 07:02 PM
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24. Please see Reply 23.
What do you mean a lot of these things were mentioned in the campaign?

I listened very carefully when he campaigned; and I understood every word--in its normal meaning, not in some bizarrely spun meaning. The two most major points of his campaign as far as health insurance reform were (a)strong public option and (b) no mandate.

Instead, we have a strong mandate and no public option whatever.


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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 08:13 PM
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33. Another unpopular Obama idea whose time has come.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:36 PM
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12. sucks to be us doesnt it.
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:42 PM
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13. All of these things are bad for regular Americans so, I suspect, he'll do it.
And saying they're good for jobs is just the same Thug fear rhetoric in sheep's clothing.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:43 PM
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14. Nuclear power is "Republican"?
Maybe back in 1980, but not now.

http://pronucleardemocrats.blogspot.com/">Not these days.

The 'Publicans also think they own space science, avionics, agriculture, and engineering. Even if we ultimately reject the atom, we should NOT let them (an anti-science party to begin with) dominate ANY non-political issue.

--d!
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LiberalLovinLug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 04:04 PM
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15. The GOP does respect bi-partisans
Like Foley and Craig
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 08:03 PM
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30. Oh, Beehayyyyve!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 04:19 PM
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16. This just in...
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 04:20 PM by Javaman
Germany (AP) - Archaeologists have uncovered hidden documents from the Nazi era.

Further research is required, but Dr. Hans N. Franz sited a particular document that shows Adolf Hitler in a new light.

"It appears as if Adolf Hitler tried to work with Jewish leaders on Nazi ideas", quoted. Dr. Franz.

(mods, you may delete the post. LOL I just couldn't resist)
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 08:09 PM
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32. The OP says that Republicans are willing to work with Obama on Obama's Republican ideas.
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 08:11 PM by No Elephants

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placton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 05:46 PM
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17. Remeber: In the time of Jefferson
the party was known as the Democratic Republicans. Looks like the wheel has come full circle?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 08:14 PM
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34. Being a Jeffersonian Democrat is about more than merely a name.
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 08:24 PM by No Elephants

It's about Democratic principles (and democratic principles).

Bizarrely, however, "principles" seems to have become a dirty word these days among some Democrats, who do seem fixated on merely a name, confusing some who, for whatever political reason, choosed to put a (D) after his or her name (DINO) with a real Democrat. Ironic, huh?

Just what we need more of in elected office--people whose behavior is unprincipled. :crazy:

"un·prin·ci·pled (n-prns-pld)
adj.
Lacking principles or moral scruples; unscrupulous: unprincipled behavior.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

unprincipled <ʌnˈprɪnsɪpəld>
adj
1. lacking moral principles; unscrupulous
2. (foll by in) Archaic not versed in the principles of (a subject)
unprincipledness n
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged 6th Edition 2003. © William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd 1979, 1986 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003


Adj. 1. unprincipled - lacking principles or moral scruples; "freedom from coarse unprincipled calumny"- A.E.Stevenson
unscrupulous - without scruples or principles; "unscrupulous politicos who would be happy to sell...their country in order to gain power"
principled - based on or manifesting objectively defined standards of rightness or morality; "principled pragmatism and unprincipled expediency"; "a principled person"
2. unprincipled - having little or no integrity
dishonorable, dishonourable - lacking honor or integrity; deserving dishonor; "dishonorable in thought and deed"

Based on WordNet 3.0, Farlex clipart collection. © 2003-2008 Princeton University, Farlex Inc.

unprincipled
adjective dishonest, corrupt, crooked, immoral, tricky, unscrupulous, devious, unethical, unprofessional, amoral, deceitful, underhand, dishonourable, unconscionable the unprincipled behaviour of the prosecutor's office
honest, moral, decent, ethical, upright, honourable, righteous, virtuous, scrupulous
Collins Thesaurus of the English Language – Complete and Unabridged 2nd Edition. 2002 © HarperCollins Publishers 1995, 2002

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/unprincipled




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ThomThom Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:35 PM
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18. Hopefully Dems will filibuster all of these proposals
It makes me sick to think that all of these republican ideas will be passed.
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:38 PM
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19. Bush's third term
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:44 PM
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22. at least Bill Clinton had the decency to wait until Dems lost Congress to become GOP's bitch
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 08:39 PM
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35. I thought Bill Clinton ran as a member of the organization that he helped found, the DLC.
You know, the organization silly me thought I voted against when I voted for Obama in the primary?

"The DLC has supported welfare reform, such as the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996<8>, President Clinton's expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit<9>, and the creation of AmeriCorps<10>. The DLC supports expanded health insurance via tax credits for the uninsured and opposes plans for single-payer universal health care. The DLC supports universal access to preschool, charter schools, and measures to allow a greater degree of choice in schooling (though not school vouchers), and supports the No Child Left Behind Act. The DLC supports both the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and the Central America Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA)."

<snip>


"Other critics cite that the low turnout of organized labor in the 1994 election after Bill Clinton signed the North American Free Trade Agreement into law resulted in the Republican Party gaining a majority in the 1994 House of Representatives elections and 1994 Senate elections that would last for twelve years until 2006."

<snip?


Recently, the DLC also urged Senate Democrats to vote against Bush's nomination of Samuel Alito to the U.S. Supreme Court "on principle", but firmly opposed any filibuster of the nominee.<11>

2003 invasion of Iraq
The DLC gave strong support for the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Prior to the war, Will Marshall {a founder of the New Democrat movement} co-signed a letter to President Bush from the Project for the New American Century endorsing military action against Saddam Hussein. During the 2004 Primary campaign the DLC attacked Presidential candidate Howard Dean as an out-of-touch liberal because of Dean's anti-war stance. The DLC dismissed other critics of the Iraq invasion such as filmmaker Michael Moore as members of the "loony left"<12>. Even as domestic support for the Iraq War plummeted in 2004 and 2005, Marshall called upon Democrats to balance their criticism of Bush's handling of the Iraq War with praise for the President's achievements and cautioned "Democrats need to be choosier about the political company they keep, distancing themselves from the pacifist and anti-American fringe."<13>"

<snip>

Bill Clinton ran his 1992 and 1996 campaigns as a New Democrat<16><17> and became the only twice elected Democratic president since President Franklin D. Roosevelt. New Democrats made significant gains in both the 2006 midterms and the 2008 elections.<18> In May 2009, President Obama declared to the House New Democrat Coalition, "I am a New Democrat."<19>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership_Council
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 02:19 AM
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39. ok, he was more honest about it...
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 07:51 PM
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26. What "ideas"? They don't have anything...
:shrug:
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 07:58 PM
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28. "We'll meet you 1/100th of the way, but even that might be a bit too much!"
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 08:02 PM
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29. Yeah, Right .
:rofl:
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:58 PM
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37. How about Obama working with (real) Democratic ideals...
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 11:00 PM by SnoopDog
The idea of a democracy is that majority rules and citizens vote for politicians that represent their views....????????

And we want our views enacted into legislation...
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