Powell Reassures India on Technology Jobs (NY TIMES)

[The Zanti Regent]

Powell sells Americans out (again...)

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/17/international/asia/17POWE.html?hp

"Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, encountering the other side of a tempestuous debate in the United States, sought to assure Indians on Tuesday that the Bush administration would not try to halt the outsourcing of high-technology jobs to their country."

Just when you think that liar can't get any sleazier...

[mhr]

1. It Must Be Nice Having A Cushy Protected Job Immune To Outsourcing

Just Wait Colin, you will get yours come November.

At least then we will not have to listen to your nonsense any longer.

[Occulus]

2. WHAAAAAAT?

You have got to be kidding me.

They're done. They're through.

[Stephanie]

18. Yup. They're done. IF everybody hears this.

If this story gets out there, beyond the NY Times, they're toast.

[dusty64]

19. Their blatant idiocy

is approaching levels never seen before. Its almost like they want to lose or worse yet know they CAN'T lose.

[Lorien]

26. I think the latter is the case

Diebold will deliver. :grr:

[Lars39]

48. They're not bothering to hide much anymore.

Wonder why? Whatever the reasons, it can't be good.

[Nobody]

3. Isn't job creation supposed to be good?

I'm going to send this to the Kerry campaign post-haste. If the Bush regime wants to put its foot in it this bad, there are still a lot of IT people working McJobs now that their unemployment has run out.

Why is throwing people out of work and having no new industry to move into beneficial to our economy?

I'd dearly love to see Bush Inc. struggling by unemployed for two years like so many people I know, people who are actively looking for work.

[izzie]

5. Question? What if you can not go to MacDonald?

I used to shop and stop in once a week. I live on a budget and I had to cut out some thing as the cost of living went up. I do still get a drink once a month or so. In those last say 4 trips since Xmas I have never had to get in line and only one window is open, and lot is never filled. Interesting I think as I do shop at the same time. Maybe others are now buying gas and not going to Mac?

[Nobody]

13. I doubt they're hiring either

With so many people out of work, the first thing to go is eating out and movies.

I bet King Dubya has never had to decide whether to heat his home and have ramen noodles for a month or to be cold and eat more substantial meals.

[JoeMemphis]

4. We know who the Bushies are for ...

... tech multinationals, not the tech workers of this great country.

Kerry needs to hammer the jobs issues up until election day. Bush doesn't have an economic record to run on, unless the job market does a miraculous turnaround.

[RamboLiberal]

6. Thank you Colin - we appreciate this

This is going to go over well with US IT workers, many of whom voted for *.

In Washington, the White House endorsed Mr. Powell's comments.

"The secretary made clear in his remarks that we are concerned when Americans lose jobs, and we are focused on creating jobs for American workers, and the best way to do that is to open markets around the world, including in India," said Claire Buchan, a spokeswoman for the White House.

Uh, huh - explain this to me again. How in the hell is this helping the US? Oh, I get it, the Friedman school of job creation. Gee those Indian Workers are buying McDonald's hamburgers, drinking Cokes, working in building air conditioned by equipment from American companies. This benefits American workers. But I got news for you dense-headed idiots - they may be American in name - but the manufacturing for these products is overseas with cheap labor.

But David Wade, a spokesman for Senator John Kerry, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, said Mr. Powell's comments demonstrated how the Bush administration has "failed to fight for American workers."

Thanks for more ammo. Or have you used it all shooting yourselves in the foot and * in the butt?

[pinniped]

8. Maybe India will outsource their IT support and customer service...

jobs back to the US.:crazy:

Way to go!

10. But the GOP and corps win no matter what!

No risk to them. At least, they get cheap labor.

(you said)

Uh, huh - explain this to me again. How in the hell is this helping the US. Oh, I get it, the Friedman school of job creation. Gee those Indian Workers are buying McDonald's hamburgers, drinking Cokes, working in building air conditioned by equipment from American companies. This benefits American workers. But I got news for you dense-headed idiots - they may be American in name - but the manufacturing for these products is overseas with cheap labor.

[Thor_MN]

12. Can't speak for more than me, but this is one IT worker

that has been against * since he announced he was running. If I was forced to pick a GOP candidate in 2000, it would have been McCain. I've always thought * was dumber than a rock and was going to wreck the country with the innane trickle down crap. He makes the whacko televangelists look relatively sane and unwanting of your money.

[Nobody]

14. I WAS an IT worker and I have never been a Republican

And especially now, I'm not voting Republican. As you were right about the Bush Regime wrecking our country. It's happened and they have no remorse. They got theirs, so we can all fuck ourselves.

And by the way, this article has been emailed to the Kerry campaign with comments by me and a request to use it for all its worth.

[ramapo]

28. Me too

I'm fortunate enough to still be an IT worker. Always been a Democrat.

Been surrounded by Republican coworkers(mostly) for 20+ years.

IT workers are now learning the hard way that Republican policies are not worker-friendly.

[dawn]

39. Me three. Well, sort of.

I was doing a marketing/communications function in an IT department. (Web Editing and E-Marketing). I've always been a Democrat.

I was surrounded mostly by Libertarians and several rapid Pukes who worshipped *. Other than that, just non-political types.

(By the way, all of us were laid off. Some of the *-worshippers found their jobs offshored to India.)

[Guaranteed]

7. There, there, India....there, there

This is just unfuckingbelievable.

9. Is it true that

India has a lobbyist which works with the GOP to represent Indians and US corporations (forget about US citizens)?

[fujiyama]

11. Many countries have lobbyists...

and they're usually bipartisan.

This isn't really India's fault. It's the American companies. If you want to blame someone blame them.

[Mika]

23. Not just US companies

"This isn't really India's fault. It's the American companies. If you want to blame someone blame them."


Maybe you should have said 'If you want to blame someone else...', because it is the American people who support these actions by supporting businesses that out source their manufacturing or service. Both at the store and in their IRA's and investment/retirement portfolios. If the companies that out source to keep stock prices higher did not do so, then the investment managers would not invest in their companies, or, American's retirement portfolios, IRA's, etc., would not earn enough - then who would be able to plan for any retirement or pay for their kids education?

Capitalism at its best (not).



I guess that if we want Americans to work, then we must buy American and invest American.

[theHandpuppet]

15. Having Bush in the White House...

... makes me feel as if we've outsourced the Presidency! Who is this man and what is he doing here?

[Disturbed]

16. Lost all respect for Colon.

I lost all respect for him when he went and lied to the UN. Now am beginning to loath the disgraceful, lackey, creep.

[Zech Marquis]

17. another Kerry ad for free

all Kerry's ad tam has to do is is to reprint the headline, and perhaps a few good lines from the article. And the ad in the midwest and south day and night!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

20. Gosh, Colin...we just don't know how to thank our NeoCon overlords.

[salin]

21. Bush administration: Protecting Jobs in India... and facilitating

job loss in the U.S. While pretending not to understand why we are having a "jobless" (re: "jobLOSS") recovery.

[dusty64]

22. This REALLY needs to

get some play on Pravda, yet considering who controls it and benefits from these policies its highly doubtful.

[Malva Zebrina]

24. Powell carries the burden of being graced with a less than sharp

intellect. He is rather slow and dull and always has been. That has generally in the past been interpreted as "having a steady head" or being a thinker and not a reactive. The truth is --he lacks intelligence and the ability to think on his feet.(Compare to Wes Clarke) Obviously he gets orders and follows through without much thought being given to his role or his oath of office. As of late, he is testy toward anyone questioning him or Bush . This latest is another embarrassment. He is an embarrassment as much as Bush.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

25. i heard on MSNBC that "powell went to india to beg for US jobs"

[xchrom]

27. the corporate facist whore

on the job.

[FormerOstrich]

29. along with the decrease in jobs

There has been some significant investment going into India. We wouldn't want anything to jeopardize the U.S. corporate interests. So to add insult to injury we can expect to see the exodus in jobs to continue and more resources directed to protect those interests.


Since the last meeting of the DPG in May 2002, the U.S. and Indian defense establishments have continued to expand cooperation. The past year’s accomplishments include:

Combined special forces counterinsurgency exercise in Northeast India;
Combined Air Force exercise in Alaska;
Complex naval exercises on the East Coast of India;
Delivery of "Firefinder" radars to India;
Senior-level missile defense talks; and
Conclusion of a master information exchange agreement to facilitate cooperation in research and development of defense technologies
During this year’s DPG, the delegations emphasized the long-range strategic concepts that guide the new approach to the U.S.-India relationship. They agreed that the work of the two countries together during the past year and planned activities for the next year are translating that strategic vision into action.



more details here: http://www.dod.mil/releases/2003/nr20030808-0331.html

[oldcoot]

30. Well, we know who Bush represents

Too bad that he is not interested in jobs for Americans. If you make less than a million dollars a year, you are an idiot if you vote for Bush.

[The Zanti Regent]

31. Folks, let's keep kicking this thread

We want EVERYONE to see what Secretary of State Stepin Fetchitt really thinks of those who struggle to make ends meet daily!

[Ilsa]

32. Well, if we each had only invested

a million dollars in each of these outsourcing companies, we'd be raking in the big bucks with an extra dime in dividends for each share we own. Hmmm, that's right, trade your $60,000 a year job for an extra $500 in dividends. Yep, sounds entirely fair, doesn't it?

Goddamn bastards.

[Mountainman]

33. Don't support outsourcing by talking to the Indians

When I get a call from India, I politely say that I do not talk to people who have taken a job away from an American.

I got a sales pitch call from India for SBC. I gave them my stock answer.

If we don't talk to them it will have some impact. If all Americans refused to talk to them it would make the news.

[peacetalksforall]

34. Listen India

we want the best for you, but NOT our best jobs, our IT jobs, not any of our jobs as long as we have unemployment.

Every one of you who have our jobs should be paying the taxes of the people who would have been paying taxes.

Our countries fortunes are going to be reversed. I guess that is what you and the CEO's think should happen.

People, instead of our taxes going to aid for all these countries, our livelihood went, plus the taxes we need to run the country.

We are going over the cliff.

So, have the CEO's built their new homes somewhere outside of this country? It's not going to be pleasant here.

[calimary]

35. Oh, so he's reassuring INDIA now, 'eh?

That THEY shouldn't worry about a job loss.

Okkkkkkaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...

[Ravy]

36. They have no shame.

Do they even realize they don't have to go half way around the world to find a country whose inhabitants are suffering from lack of jobs?

[wabeewoman]

37. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree...

Just take one look at Michael Powell and you can tell all the 'respect' people had for Colin was misplaced. I admit to being suprised he continues to lie for bush when it is so obviously hurting him. Josh Marshall had an interesting clip about him:
"After that he apparently upped the ante, denying Kerry's claims that he, Powell, had been undermined or sidelined in administration foreign policy debates.

"Name a specific issue," said Powell, "where it looks like I have been marginalized."

Sorta sad, isn't it?

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

[ignatius]

38. Totally surreal, I keep hoping I are living in an episode of the

Twilight Zone, I will awaken, and it will all have been an estremely bad dream.

60 Minutes did a piece on the outsourcing of jobs to India in the call centers for banks, loan companies, etc.

They are given American sounding names, re taught the slang of whichever area of the country they are covering and are kept up to date of local news to be able to carry on a conversation with the client.

It is NOT the fault of those working people in India, who wouldn't want a better paying job? It is the fault of our lawmakers and corporations who hand in hand are selling this country down the river.

Powell and this entire administration are shameless, how do they look themselves in the mirror?

[librechik]

40. hey, I think he's telling the truth this time!

yup

[leesa]

41. Is he the Secretary of State for India too? When did he start

working for them?

[Chovexani]

42. Heh.

My rabidly libertarian ex-boyfriend is an IT guy in Ohio that made mucho dinero. Completely supported the chimp, the war, etc (one of the many reasons I quit talking to him). Lo and behold his job got outsourced a couple of weeks ago. He's so mad he can't see straight and now he says he's voting for Kerry, which would be the first vote he ever cast for a Dem.

Keep on pouring gasoline on the fire, Colin. Your job will be the next one outsourced.

[MisterP]

43. step 1: pretend that deleterious idea you made up is natural & inevitable

[Blue Gardener]

44. Remember what they use to tell the blue collar workers?

When their jobs went to Mexico they were to get re-trained for tech jobs. Now those are disappearing as well. What do they re-train for next? Burger flippers? Oh yeah, they want to consider those "manufacturing jobs" now too. These people disgust me.

[WorkingClassTV]

45. this should be a Kerry campaign commercial

Dubya is creating jobs in India not here

[The Zanti Regent]

46. Keep kicking this folks

We have to make sure that EVERY DUer has seen this!

[gulliver]

47. When are we going to get fair and free trade?

I think we should insist on a policy of low trade deficits. Bush policies gave us a new record trade deficit in 2003. When do our "trading partners" start buying from us?