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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 10:31 AM
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Rep. Maxine Waters Refutes Ethics Charges
Source: ABC

Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., today adamantly refuted charges brought against her by the House Ethics Committee.

"I have not violated any House rules," she said at a press conference on Capitol Hill.

Waters was charged by the Ethics panel with violating House rules in 2008. The charges stem from a meeting that Waters requested at the onset of the financial crisis in September 2008 with then-Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson. Waters and Paulson did not attend the meeting, but Treasury officials and members of the National Bankers Association (NBA), a trade organization representing over 100 minority-owned firms, did.

At that meeting and in follow-up conversations, according to an investigative subcommittee report, "the discussion centered on a single bank -- OneUnited," where Waters' husband was a board member from 2004 to 2008. According to her 2008 financial disclosure forms, Waters' husband owned two investments in OneUnited valued between $500,000 and $1 million.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rep-maxine-waters-refutes-ethics-charges/story?id=11393502



FWIW, the headline ought to read "denies", not "refutes"; AND I think the "charges" against Ms Waters are 100% politically motivated speculative bullshit.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 10:33 AM
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1. She has been on the CREW thief list for years
I have no use for any person of any party that are abusing their power. Their stink marks legitimate Democrats. She acted to cover her million dollar stake.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 10:43 AM
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3. Congress is corrupt, rotten to the core.
This is about removing Rangel and Waters from their chair positions in Congress, nothing more. If the Congressional committee was actually interested in addressing corruption in Congress, they would have a variety of other more useful options to pursue.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 10:59 AM
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4. CREW has a list of the worst thieves.
everyone on that list should be out. Their districts are secure, they can elect people who will represent them without blatant theft.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 11:05 AM
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6. Crew does not impress me, they have their own agenda, and it is not mine.
Occasionally I agree with them, but sometimes I think they are full of shit.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 11:07 AM
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8. NY times had a pretty long story outlining
the details of what she is accused of. In a secure district, where her replacement will be another Democrat, there is no reason to even defend her action.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 11:12 AM
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9.  NYT does not impress me either.
Read the story I posted:

Waters and Paulson did not attend the meeting, but Treasury officials and members of the National Bankers Association (NBA), a trade organization representing over 100 minority-owned firms, did.

At that meeting and in follow-up conversations, according to an investigative subcommittee report, "the discussion centered on a single bank -- OneUnited,"

So some treasury officials discuss that particular bank with some members of the NBA, what exactly is wrong with that?


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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 01:58 PM
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We Agree, Sir: No Wrong was Done, On the Evidence Provided
This is nothing but an attempt by Goss and others to unseat prominent Black representatives.

If the target was 'corruption in Congress', the investigations would focus on the connection between campaign contributions and votes cast, and over half the body be looking at terms in stir rather than in the legislature....
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 02:36 PM
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22. Last night I watched a documentary about Haiti
and it contained some footage of Mr. Rangel and Maxine Waters and no one else pounding the corrupt, sellout former State Department officials who were testifying against Haiti's interests before Congress. There are many reasons these two representatives could wind up in the cross hairs.

(It was a decent presentation, Sir. "Aristide and the Endless Revolution".)
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 03:56 PM
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24. Thank you, Sir.
Always a pleasure.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 01:58 PM
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19. We Agree, Sir: No Wrong was Done, On the Evidence Provided
This is nothing but an attempt by Goss and others to unseat prominent Black representatives.

If the target was 'corruption in Congress', the investigations would focus on the connection between campaign contributions and votes cast, and over half the body be looking at terms in stir rather than in the legislature....
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howaboutme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 07:51 PM
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38. No tolerance for corruption
Edited on Sun Aug-15-10 07:59 PM by howaboutme
Whether Democrat or Republican, black, white, purple, female, male we should have zero tolerance for corruption. The longer they "serve", and that term is often a misnomer for serving themselves, not us, the more they feel entitled to take what they want. It is human nature unfortunately.

Politicians, cops, district attorneys, judges, even bureaucrats entrusted to promote and enforce justice need held to the highest possible standard of justice. No slap on the wrist is ever appropriate for these people. If found guilty the sentence should be far far more severe than an average citizen that has been caught in such crimes. When Congress and these other people are corrupt they do far more collateral damage to society than just the crimes that they commit. They destroy confidence in the system. Even the appearance of corruption becomes debilitating and harmful.





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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 01:58 PM
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20. We Agree, Sir: No Wrong was Done, On the Evidence Provided
This is nothing but an attempt by Goss and others to unseat prominent Black representatives.

If the target was 'corruption in Congress', the investigations would focus on the connection between campaign contributions and votes cast, and over half the body be looking at terms in stir rather than in the legislature....
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 07:53 PM
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39. I agree that the Magistrate is even wittier in triplicate.
:evilgrin:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 12:00 PM
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13. What is CREW's agenda?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 12:06 PM
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14. I can't speak for them, I just know theirs is not mine.
I agree with them sometimes, sometimes I do not.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 12:10 PM
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15. What specifically do you disagree with them about?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 12:12 PM
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16. Maxine Waters, I thought that was clear. nt
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 07:33 AM
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30. Agree. Something is mighty suspicious, that's for sure.
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 11:00 AM
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5. You don't know that.
Your speculating. An opinion is one thing but your saying already she is guilty without her having received
a fair hearing on the matter. Why would you do that?
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 11:06 AM
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7. CREW has her on the list. The evidence is substantial
and a reasonable person would examine it and conclude she is a thief using federal money to cover her nut. She had a hearing, she is indicted, she can receive a trial too.

Her district is not contested, they can elect a person who will not steal.
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 11:18 AM
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10. I suppose you have a degree in law and sit on the bench somewhere.
You must do to be so wise to have passed judgement already. DU is so very lucky
to have "dems" like yourself who know what the truth is before anyone else does.
Thanks for enlightening us all to how guilty she is. Where would we be without you?
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 07:28 PM
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25. Not talking about ethics coming into an election cycle
cut her and charlie loose. keep the seats. win win. "" are cute by the way.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 06:59 PM
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36. She should have listened to Barney Frank, who had no conflict of interest and whose constituents
were among those served by the Boston based bank. It is conceivable that she might have advocated for them as a minority owned bank that did have loans in her area even if her husband and she had no investment and no connection, but that conflict of interest was why she should not have been involved.
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HoraceX Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 10:40 AM
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2. Anyone at ABC have a dictionary?
There's a big difference between "refute" and "attempting to refute".
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savalez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 11:58 AM
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12. Are you sure you don't mean "refudiate"? (just kidding... sorry)
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 07:35 PM
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26. You're the one that needs the dictionary. n/t
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 11:49 AM
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11. OMG, she requested a meeting that she didn't attend!!
Hanging's too good for her!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 01:29 PM
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18. And then the banking people kep emailing her Cheif of staff.
That criminal Porter Goss is spinning that as some kind of conspiracy activity between Waters and the bankers. He seems to be hoping that she will fold like a cheap suit.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 01:02 PM
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17. Open season on black politicians
There should be some kind of fairness doctrine where the white politicians are help to the same standard as the blacks are held.Where was the ethics witch hunters when Mr Vitter,Mr Craig and Mr Ensign were doing their little sexual thing?
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 02:13 PM
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21. Sexual dalliances are not equal
Otherwise, you're saying the investigation of Clinton was fair, if you don't want to look like a hypocrite.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 03:44 PM
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34.  Ethics
covers everything that is against the law.
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savalez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 02:49 PM
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23. I read somthing like that on Politico once...
here it is. 10 month old story but...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29055.html
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 07:38 AM
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31. You see no difference between seeing a prostitute and allegedly abusing your vote?
Edited on Sat Aug-14-10 07:42 AM by No Elephants
I think the Waters Rangel stuff is suspicious, but I would not equate the alllegation of misuse or abuse of elected office with seeing a prostitute. One is a public matter, the other is a personal one.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 03:54 PM
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35. They are equally deserving of a fair public inquiry into the facts.
We ought not single Ms Waters out while letting these other weasels slide.
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Kringle Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 10:47 PM
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27. is she denying the facts, or arguing law? .nt
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 08:40 AM
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32. I think she is pointing out that there are no facts.
The case is a tissue of lies and innuendos.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 10:52 PM
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28. Fight back Waters, give it all you've got. n/t
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 07:29 AM
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29. Is this worse than Senator Obama getting big bucks for Michelle's hospital employer?
Edited on Sat Aug-14-10 07:48 AM by No Elephants
Or Senate wives working for lobbyists, ala Senator Dodd, to name only one? Or hundreds of similar things? Is it 100% aboveboard? Probably not. But why single out Waters and Rangel?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 12:48 PM
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33. Maxine Waters speaks out against ethics charges
In her most spirited defense against ethics charges, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Los Angeles) denied Friday that she had used her influence to aid a bank in which her husband has a financial interest, and attacked ethics investigators for drawing the wrong conclusion from her lifetime of work to aid minority-owned businesses.

"I won't cut a deal," Waters said in her first Capitol Hill news conference since charges were brought.

Her nearly hour-and-a-half response featured a PowerPoint presentation, led by her chief of staff, aimed at rebutting the charges. When it concluded, the words: "No Benefit, No Improper Action, No Failure to Disclose, No One Influenced: No Case" flashed on the screen.

The veteran of more than three decades in Sacramento and Washington politics has been accused of trying to help OneUnited Bank, on whose board her husband served and in which he owns stock. Unless she settles, she faces a rare public trial before a panel of her House colleagues.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-waters-ethics-20100814,0,5599438.story
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 07:12 PM
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37. Give 'em hell, Maxine!
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 06:35 AM
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40. It's a RW attempt at bringing down anybody with a D after their name.
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howaboutme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 07:29 PM
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41. I truly wish it did
but I do not see either a D (or R) after a name giving anyone in Congress a halo or immunity from ethics violations. They can both be corrupt and self serving to those of the power elite regardless of politics.
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Francesca9 Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 11:51 PM
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42. go girl, go
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