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IamK (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 08:59 AM Original message |
NBC News: Debt negotiators 'very close' to deal |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
1. Great |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
2. I find it hard to believe that the Tea Party/Republicans would give up |
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IamK (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 09:07 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. TP votes are not needed if the get both dem & repub votes..... |
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Cool Logic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Actually, I don't understand the objections to the balanced budget amendment mandate. |
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mac56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 10:20 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. It'd have to be ratified by 2/3rds of the states |
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Cool Logic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. That's right...and that is why I don't understand the objections. |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Time is the issue. |
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Cool Logic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #27 |
56. That's my point...It will take years...And there is no guarantee that it would pass. |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
48. My recollection is the state requirement is ratification by 3/4 |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
37. Yea. If a balanced |
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Cool Logic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #37 |
57. That is one of the primary considerations that debating the issue would entail. |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
50. Well .... Because there are times that deficit spending is essential ... |
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Cool Logic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. I am aware of all of that and most of the drafts I have seen address your concerns. |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
55. You don't? |
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Cool Logic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. What you say is true...it is indeed political posturing by the Rs. Everyone can see that. |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
63. Because a balanced budget amendment is a bad idea |
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Cool Logic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-01-11 04:42 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Actually forty-nine states are not in trouble... |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-01-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Okay, forty-eight states then... |
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Cool Logic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-01-11 08:20 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Some states are better managed than others--at least a dozen or so. |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 07:35 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Unemployment rate doesn't equal "well managed state" |
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Cool Logic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-01-11 08:17 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. . |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. Why not? They are getting almost everything they want. Taxes or even closing loopholes have been put |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
46. The tea party ones dont matter, what matters is the rest of the republicans |
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bamacrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
4. $2.8 Trillion is nice but not nearly enough. |
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plumbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:23 AM Response to Reply #4 |
23. THEN could we bring the troops home from everywhere and concentrate |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
41. I have a feeling that they've miscalculated |
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Union Thug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
5. Manufactured crisis ends with another democratic lunge to the right |
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mazzarro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
44. What essentially consitute the budget? |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. 2010 budget expenses |
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riverwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
6. Todd tweets |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. well, they knew they had to come to some type of compro- |
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Altoid_Cyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
7. We better start stretching so that we can grab our ankles. |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #7 |
26. +1 |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
32. BOHICA. nt |
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Scottybeamer70 (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
8. I guess they have finally come to an agreement on how much |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
9. I'm probably the only one on DU who thinks this is a decent deal. |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. I agree.. however it still remains to see how this all plays out. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
20. "Social programs" not "entitlements". Let's cease the adoption of GOP language and |
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plumbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Yes. people have paid in all their lives. It's a program. |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. No, let's stop the bullshit connotation. An "entitlement" is NOT a bad thing. By definition: |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Entitlements isn't GOP language. Learn some vocabulary. The Constitution ENTITLES us |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Name a Democrat in D.C. who called the programs "entitlements" prior to 2006. |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Human Rights are not entitlements. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. When talking about Legalities and Citizenship and the Constitution they certainly are. |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Human rights exidt independent |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. And if we lived in a country without a Constitution that specifically describes those Rights- |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-01-11 08:23 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. The Constituion didn't |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
53. Many good Democrats use the word "entitlements." I am not going to succumb to the word police. |
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Cool Logic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-01-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
68. Actually, entitlement, is not GOP language. It simply denotes mandatory spending... |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
34. You are not the only one. n/t |
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Po_d Mainiac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
11. It's a smoke screen |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
13. LAME, not a victory at all |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Cuts with no revenue does nothing to slow the recession. nt |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
47. No revenue "yet", the tax cuts are still due to run out |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
40. Yea, and if people think |
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hayrow (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
15. As Gomer Pyle would say, "Surprise, Surprise, Surprise"! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
33. wow, just wow. nt |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
22. About that Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution..... |
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LongTomH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. The 'Balanced Budget Amendment' talk is red meat for the Tea Party base. |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #22 |
29. So we're looking at 3/4 of the country, and most of Congress, wasting seven years on it. Bad deal. |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. CNN host trying to pin down Mitch McConnell on just vote or actual passage..... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
36. Gee, what a surprise. Why do I feel we've been watching a reality show? |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
39. Of course, all of this hoopla and drama was a complete joke. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #39 |
52. Just you wait. Defense or war spending will go up, not down. Unfortunately, there is |
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pasto76 (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
42. NBC is the only one reporting this, and not a single left-ish outlet is either |
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texshelters (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
43. Republicans win, the US suffers |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
45. They are NOT close to a deal of any kind at all. Another case of premature emancipation by MSNBC. |
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Plaid Adder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
54. I do not like this 12- person "committee." |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:41 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Its a two edged sword |
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