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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 02:31 AM Original message |
London rioters are not 'protesters', admits BBC |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 02:36 AM Response to Original message |
1. Well, I guess that settles it then. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 02:39 AM Response to Original message |
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Stella_Artois (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 03:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Its the truth |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 04:25 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Thanks for the info... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
21. It may well be your subjective assessment, but your subjective assessment is not |
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Stella_Artois (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
89. An act of protest then. |
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BooScout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
123. Oh puleeeze.... |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. IMO ... |
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oldbanjo (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
68. that's what they did in LA. |
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alynaB (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 02:40 AM Response to Original message |
3. Riots |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:00 AM Response to Reply #3 |
30. In answer to your question ... |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:23 AM Response to Reply #3 |
70. It's called opportunity. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 03:47 AM Response to Original message |
5. K & R |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 05:30 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Where is it written that protestors don't loot charity shops? That is a subjective judgment, |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 05:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Maybe I paraphrased it wrongly |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 05:49 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. No, phrasing is not the issue. It's the subjectivity. Please see Reply 8, below. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:18 AM Response to Reply #17 |
37. The crowd also appears to fit well within the dictionary definitions of both "looters" and "rioters" |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 05:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. No, protesters can be violent; but I think the point is that many of these people were not |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 05:57 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. II am not making any value judgement about the events in London. However, |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #19 |
52. self delete- incorrect spot |
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Cool Logic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:59 AM Response to Reply #10 |
45. Have they abolished Parliament and re-established the Monarchy? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #45 |
69. No. If you judge them on objective legal principles, |
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Cool Logic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #69 |
92. They are only subjective to those who have an undefined hierarchy of values. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 04:53 AM Response to Original message |
7. BBC "Admits"? What? They've been closeted about the "fact"? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:43 AM Response to Reply #7 |
43. Completely dishonest word choice, "admits." Sneaky, underhanded, and deceitful. n/t |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 05:22 AM Response to Original message |
8. What an arse. Where did Fran Unsworth get her sociology or linguistics degree anyway? |
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Ex Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 05:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. what were the yobs who beat and robbed the Malaysian student protesting? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 05:43 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. First, did you even bother to read all of my post before you responded? |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 08:50 AM Response to Reply #8 |
48. you make sense, in that |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:43 AM Response to Reply #48 |
62. Very wise, and I agree. I am taking issue only with the reasons given in the OP, |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:40 AM Response to Reply #62 |
75. I understand what you are saying... |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 05:38 AM Response to Original message |
11. One suspects that in fact there are some protesters |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 05:44 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Ah, someone who gets it. |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 05:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. No matter "The Question" |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 05:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Thanks. Pithy. I like it. |
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Flatulo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 05:49 AM Response to Original message |
16. Huh, a millionaire's daughter was among the protesters. She was |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Not every theft is a protest. However, protests can involve stealing. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:09 AM Response to Reply #16 |
23. While I do think that some people on the boards are being naive from 3000 miles away and equating |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:31 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I did not intend to equate Egypt or Syria with what is happening in London; |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:05 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. I wasn't referring to you - there were people who did suggest it at an earlier stage |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 08:45 AM Response to Reply #32 |
47. No problem I did mention Egypt in one of my posts on this thread, but not with the intent of |
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T_i_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:35 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. On the subject of other media sources..... |
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mwooldri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:26 AM Response to Reply #26 |
59. Though I never heard the BBC refer to the protesters as rioters... |
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T_i_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #59 |
85. A huge amount of the BBC bashing.... |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #59 |
119. Yes, it's always been the case, but there has been more virulent BBC-bashing recently than I've ever |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #119 |
126. Certainly the BBC has been damaged over the decades and moved to the right ... !!! |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:29 AM Response to Original message |
24. Maybe this'll help the confused understand, it's obvious why they were reluctant to say "riot"... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:54 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. No, that only conflates still more issues. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:07 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. It conflates it for you, not me. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:27 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. No worries. People who conflate issues are seldomt aware they'veconflated, or they would not |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:38 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I was trying to simplify it for the confused.The BBC have to be more careful than other media bodies |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:04 AM Response to Reply #42 |
51. I can only refer you back to Reply 28. It addressed everything in your Reply 42. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:12 AM Response to Reply #24 |
34. As with Reply 8, a dictionary can be useful, at least for starters. The definition of "riot" says: |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:30 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. The reluctance was due in part to legal obligation of the recompense. Anyway, here are definitions.. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #40 |
57. You missed the point. I was not attempting a comprehensive definition of "riot." |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #57 |
74. The OP is about the BBC choosing to use the word riot to describe what happened instead of 'protest' |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:35 AM Response to Original message |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:24 AM Response to Reply #27 |
38. Funny. I saw the OP artricle more as a mistake re: the long accepted meaning of the word "protest." |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:14 AM Response to Reply #27 |
55. Day 5: Ignorant DUers still going strong. |
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Mosaic (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:00 AM Response to Original message |
29. I thought it was a revolution |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 08:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
127. Will be interesting to see if this will bring more citizens to thoughts of "End the monarchy"???? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 09:27 PM Response to Reply #127 |
136. No. I am not a monarchist; but this had nothing to do with the monarchy |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:01 AM Response to Original message |
31. I have two things to say about the rioting. |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
83. Cry of the youth my arse. |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:15 AM Response to Original message |
35. I saw the one clip where they attacked the BBC cameraman (Manchester?) |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:17 AM Response to Original message |
36. Has anyone actually talked to the people involved in the riot/protesting? |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:23 AM Response to Reply #36 |
113. Interview with some of the looters >>> |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
41. Well, thanks to the 60 people who hit these guys in the head with a clue-by-four |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:48 AM Response to Reply #41 |
63. The small number is not surprising. Maybe the people who did not call in opened a dictionary first |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
44. It wasn't just the BBC calling those opportunists protesters... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:57 AM Response to Reply #44 |
64. And? Nowhere in any authoritative source is it written that protests never involve looting or |
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Cool Logic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
46. Common Criminals... |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 08:53 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. They may very well be criminals. However, saying they are "nothing more" than that closes the door |
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Cool Logic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 08:58 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. See # 45...there are other options... |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. There are two levels of problem in play here. |
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Imajika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #49 |
58. And they also riot when their favorite sports team wins (or loses)... |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:30 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Obviously I have a very different view. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #60 |
81. Witness accounts of Brixton 2011 |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #58 |
71. Such incidents |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #58 |
128. Post-Thatcher obviously there is a lot wrong ... just as in US, post-Reagan --- !!! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #58 |
129. What is the message of sports other than violence and greed? |
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mariema (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #49 |
94. It is socio-economic frustration and rage |
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Cool Logic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. So, your notion of a solution calls for breaking your neighbors window and stealing his property...? |
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mariema (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #96 |
120. My "notion" |
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Terry in Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #46 |
90. As individuals, yes, they've committed crimes |
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Cool Logic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #90 |
97. "the causes and circumstances of civil unrest..." as it relates to this matter can be found |
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Terry in Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. Whoa! Your certainty is impressive |
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Cool Logic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Although they are sympathetic to the French Revolution in general, |
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Terry in Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #103 |
121. Opinion duly noted |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 08:48 PM Response to Reply #97 |
130. "Poverty breeds crime" -- we've always known that -- |
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Pharaoh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
53. plants |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:15 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Yep, plants. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
61. I think assuming there is was only one motivation for all who took part in the riots is silly. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. It sure does make it easier to "think" about though... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. The worse economic conditions get, the more you get a repeat of the |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:02 AM Response to Reply #61 |
66. +1. Also as to Reply 18, which made that point, and a broader one, beautifully. |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
72. The 200,000 brave people of St. Petersburg in 1905 were protesters. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
73. Deleted message |
dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #73 |
77. In the absense of a link |
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legin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Yup n/t |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. In which case |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
76. Cameron has stated the cause lies more with bad parenting and such, lol: |
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legin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Cameron the Arnold Rimmer of politics n/t |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
82. What's there to admit? |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. There are loads of idealistic DU'ers who naively from 3000 miles |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #86 |
99. I have rarely travelled to London without having an altercation with chav shits |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:13 AM Response to Reply #99 |
111. Thank you Sir Walter. |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
84. So anyone pissed off at the rich criminals isn't a protestor anymore?? |
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MikeW (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #84 |
95. REALLY!? |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. Whoa that's not what I said at all! |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 08:51 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. Who has been "protesting against the rich criminals" by using arson and looting? n/t |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Greece? Egypt? Bahrain? Anyone else I'm leaving out? |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. Arson and looting/theft of private property in Greece, Egypt and Bahrain? I don't think so. |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:54 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. I thought the protests in Greece and London were about the uber-rich. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:52 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. I think that might be a good idea. n/t |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #107 |
116. The 'protests' in London were not about the uber-rich |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #116 |
118. Sounds a lot like what happened in the early 90's in LA. |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
87. People violating laws in other countries are "protesters," not in the UK. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. No. Looters are called looters wherever they are. Protesters are called protesters in the UK |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #88 |
137. Yes. There's a difference between this sort of disorganized looting, and real protests such as the |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. People violating laws are called criminals in most countries. |
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T_i_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. +1 |
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TNLib (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
98. I wouldn't categorize them as protesters but this is "Civil Unrest" |
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Terry in Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 08:19 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. +1 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
109. Of course they are protesters --- that's why they are not to be heard -- !! |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:17 AM Response to Reply #109 |
112. Believe me you can hear em alright. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:31 AM Response to Reply #112 |
114. And you're saying this is all happening ... why? Because the protesters are bored? |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Do me a favor... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Well, then, please answer my question ... has there been no racial profiling ... no austerity? |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #117 |
122. The pictures speak for themselves. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 08:15 PM Response to Reply #122 |
125. I don't see that you have picked up your debate at all ... |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 09:13 PM Response to Reply #125 |
131. A few points here: |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 09:54 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. Shrugging these people all off as simply "rioters" and "bad people" ... |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 12:32 AM Response to Reply #133 |
134. Dude you seem to just extrapolate what you want to hear. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 07:53 PM Response to Reply #134 |
135. The "boat" is the whole picture -- not part of it -- |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. This particular "boat" was titled "London rioter are not protesters" |
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BNJMN (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
110. Clearly, they are all one thing or another thing. |
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musicblind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
132. Of all the countries I've been to England is by far my favorite. |
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