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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 07:44 PM
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Iran secretly executing hundreds of prisoners: United Nations
Source: AFP via Times of India

UNITED NATIONS: Iran's authoritarian regime has been secretly executing hundreds of prisoners, according to a new UN report detailing growing rights abuses in the Islamic republic.

The mysterious executions at Vakilabad prison in Mashhad in eastern Iran were highlighted in a report compiled by Ahmed Shaheed, the new UN special rapporteur on the human rights situation in Iran.

Shaheed, who assumed responsibility for the mandate on August 1, billed this as an interim report cataloging the most recent trends in the human rights situation in Iran.

The report details a raft of abuses from freedom of expression to the denial of women's rights to the torture of detainees, but perhaps the most shocking data was on the skyrocketing rate of executions.

Read more: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/Iran-secretly-executing-hundreds-of-prisoners-United-Nations/articleshow/10396140.cms
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 07:46 PM
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1. Is this a "slam dunk?" n/t
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 07:48 PM
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2. Sounds like a "slam dunk" to me
I'm sure we will hear more.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 07:55 PM
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3. Here's a link to the UN report
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 07:58 PM
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4. Well, since it's the U.N. and not The Joint Chiefs, I give it much more weight. n/t
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 08:17 PM
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9. I would urge you to read it
Some pretty ugly stuff.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 08:31 PM
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11. so would I---Iran targets artists, environmentalists, lawyers, filmmakers---anyone who
Edited on Mon Oct-17-11 08:33 PM by wordpix
dares to stand up to the "Supreme Leader" and oppressive government.

This is not a regime we should defend; OTOH, war is not the answer.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 08:38 PM
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12. Them war drums are 'a-beatin, ain't they??? :-/ n/t
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 04:08 AM
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17. The UN is encouraging war with Iran?
I rather doubt that.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 05:46 PM
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27. Indeed.
What was I thinking? The United Nations, biased?

- Pshaw! Perish the thought.....









''In Lak'ech Ala K'in''
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 08:07 PM
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5. Pipeline
Must be ready to cross Iran. Gotta be some oil company deal.
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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 08:10 PM
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6. Let me guess, all of the executed wore green?
I watched a film recently called a "A Jihad for Love" and it was a sobering reminder of the atrocities carried out by Iran. I wonder where this is going to end up?
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Maine-i-acs Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 08:11 PM
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7. Applause breaks out -
when Rick Perry does it.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 08:14 PM
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8. Not even close
Edited on Mon Oct-17-11 08:15 PM by oberliner
Did you read the article?

"Vakilabad officials, in violation of Iranian law, allegedly carried out the executions without the knowledge or presence of the inmates' lawyers or families and without prior notification to those executed," it said.

"It has also been reported that at least 146 secret executions have taken place to date in 2011."

Shaheed also noted that four percent of executions stipulated no charges, that 100 juveniles were on death row, and that more than 100 executions this year alone for drug-related offenses.

Human Rights Watch counted 388 executions in Iran in 2010, while Amnesty International put the figure at 252, ranking the Islamic republic second only to China in the number of people put to death last year.

Edit to add: Did you know that adultery is punishable by death in Iran?
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 08:26 PM
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10. my Iranian friend who left Iran decades ago thought it was unbearable then
Looks like it's getting worse.
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Muskypundit Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 09:01 PM
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13. I dont see a happy ending to Irans authoritarianism
Regimes like that dont tend to go down quietly, like we saw during their last elections. The best case scenario is that Irans up and coming generation can effect change; but even then thousands of them will die for it.

Worst case is that war breaks out between them and either Israel, Saudi Arabia, and or the U.S.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 09:31 PM
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14. If anything is to change
Russia and China need to lead the charge to change it.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 08:56 AM
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19. Russia and China change it? hahahahha, those beacons of freedom & justice!
I don't think so
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 01:12 PM
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25. Who is supporting Iran?


Its not the US (with the exception of the koch bro's). We are about tapped out for resources to do this sort of thing. And i notice we seem to be getting a lot of "Iran" news lately, which sure sounds like a drumbeat to my untrained ears. I say no. The most involved parties need to deal with this.
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BadtotheboneBob Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:11 PM
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15. Meet the New Boss...
... Same as the Old Boss. Shah/SAVAK = Ayatollah/Quds Force
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Little Tich Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:17 PM
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16. Iranian Government Ignores Calls to Cooperate With the UN Special Rapporteur on Human Rights in Iran
Source: www.iranhumanrights.org

Questions to Ask Ahmadinejad

(14 September 2011) Member states of the United Nations as well as the international media should focus on the ongoing human rights crisis in Iran as Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad arrives in New York to attend the 66th session of the UN General Assembly, the International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran said today.

The Campaign specifically called on Ban Ki-Moon, the U.N. General Secretary, and all diplomatic representatives of member states who will meet Ahmadinejad during his visit, to express serious concerns about the grave human rights situation in Iran and to demand an immediate end to widespread violations of Iran’s international obligations and harsh repression of its citizens’ rights. In particular, the Campaign urged all international actors to call on Ahmadinejad to cooperate with the recently-appointed Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in Iran and immediately release Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi, two leading opposition leaders who have been under de facto house arrest without any judicial process for the past seven months.

“Ahmadinejad comes to town as an unprecedented human rights crisis grips the country. This is an important opportunity for diplomats, journalists and ordinary citizens to challenge him on Iran’s record of abuse and express their disapproval in the strongest possible terms,” said Hadi Ghaemi, the Campaign’s spokesperson.

Read More: http://www.iranhumanrights.org/2011/09/ahmadinejad-accountable-for-human-rights-crisis/

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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 06:33 AM
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18. They need to execute hundreds openly, the way we do.
That would bring them back into the fold.

I hear this drumming in the background. What could it be?
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 09:06 AM
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20. They do that too
The report, obtained by AFP after first appearing on the Foreign Policy website, said 200 officially announced executions had taken place in 2011 with at least 83, including those of three political prisoners, in January alone.

"Furthermore, authorities reportedly conducted more than 300 secret executions at Vakilabad prison in 2010," the report said.

These secret executions are in addition to the many open ones.

From the article:

Human Rights Watch counted 388 executions in Iran in 2010, while Amnesty International put the figure at 252, ranking the Islamic republic second only to China in the number of people put to death last year.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 10:54 AM
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22. I'm not a death penalty supporter
Not because I don't think there are some who don't deserve to breath, it's just not given in a fair and judicious manner in this country which anyone who looks at the income level of those executed can see.

That said, the US is executing people convicted in a court of law with an appeals process available (for the record, I think Troy David was likely innocent and am totally convinced Todd Willingham (sp?) was innocent). Iran is executing artists, gays. This report is coming from the UN - not from our State Department. While I'm not a fan of the UN, the vast majority of those on this board are.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 09:42 AM
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21. Sounds really bad, but I still don't want to go to war with Iran. nt
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 12:10 PM
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23. So we can bomb the prisoners and ther captors to hell
that ought to make things right :freak:
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 05:23 PM
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26. What if anything should actually be done about this?
Any ideas?
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:39 AM
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31. not sure
but i think nothing more the condemnation

i dont think rick perry wants texas bombed because he is executing prisoners
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 12:17 PM
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24. This is sounding like a drumbeat to me. nt
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bengalherder Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 11:38 PM
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28. If y'all had been reading the postings on the anonymous boards
Edited on Tue Oct-18-11 11:47 PM by bengalherder
that have been dedicated to the topic of Iran for the last few years, you would have heard this. It's a slow, but constant awareness, like the cognizance upon listening to a leaky faucet. One or a few every day or so gone. Sometimes sentenced to death directly, but more frequently basically flogged to death.

Anyone who is truly interested should go to the Iran forum at www.whyweprotest.net:

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/categories/iran.305/

There is a lot of info there and it is relatively free of the 'light-hearted' banter to which anon tends.

On edit: I'm not for war. I think more international focus has to be put on this issue. The sub-forum mentioned above has few users currently, but the information and often details have been there for awhile, and this UN report is certainly bearing out this information.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 08:55 AM
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29. This is a great post
Just because one opposes war with Iran doesn't mean one shouldn't want to know what is going on there and think about what ought to be done about it, if anything.
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tawadi Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:10 AM
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30. The US has known about this
The real question is why we are turning our attention to it only now.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:54 AM
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32. This is a UN report
I don't think the US is turning any particular attention to it now.
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tawadi Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 10:56 AM
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33. Are you kidding me?
Iran, Iran, Iran. Same kind of crap in the news before we invaded Iraq.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 11:42 AM
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34. I actually haven't seen this covered particularly widely in the US press
Certainly not in comparison to the "assassination plot" story.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 01:43 PM
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35.  Human rights violations
Who are some of the other countries that violate human rights that are never mentioned?
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 02:02 PM
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36. I think the UN has reports on pretty much all of them
Maybe not all but a pretty good cross-section.

Which country were you thinking the UN hasn't addressed?
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