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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:35 AM
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Database Measured 'Terrorism Quotient'
AP: Database Measured 'Terrorism Quotient'
By BRIAN BERGSTEIN, AP Technology Writer

NEW YORK - Before helping to launch the criminal information project known as Matrix, a database contractor gave U.S. and Florida authorities the names of 120,000 people who showed a statistical likelihood of being terrorists — sparking some investigations and arrests.

The "high terrorism factor" scoring system also became a key selling point for the involvement of the database company, Seisint Inc., in the Matrix project.

Public records obtained by The Associated Press from several states show that Justice Department (news - web sites) officials cited the scoring technology in appointing Seisint sole contractor on the federally funded, $12 million project.

Seisint and the law enforcement officials who oversee Matrix insist that the terrorism scoring system ultimately was kept out of the project, largely because of privacy concerns.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040520/ap_on_hi_te/terror_database
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 03:29 AM
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1. un-be-friggin-lieveable . . . thought I'd seen it all . . .
but when it comes to BushCo, nothing is too absurd to be included in their program . . .
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:32 AM
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5. How soon will it be before the work of the SS seems like child's play?
Never forget that anyone who even mildly disagrees with the work of this junta is the enemy and thus a potential, if not actual, terrorist by their definition. The Supreme Court and Congress ought to get off their collective duffs by perform their constitutional duties and upholding their oaths of office. That'll be the day!
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 06:09 AM
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2. Potential terrorists!
The agents will start seeing them everywhere! Those two kids, sitting on my neighbor's car......potiential terrorists! That neighbor not answering the door fast enough....potiential terrorist! Anyone accessing this web site...potiential terrorist! :) ...potiential terrorist! :+ ...potiential terrorist! :evilgrin: see the evil smile? definitely a potential terrorist!:hippie: ....potiential terrorist!:silly: ....potiential terrorist!
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:32 AM
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6. The kid who drew Bush-Devil pictures comes immediately to mind.
It's not that I object to a psychological profile of "terrorists". That kind of profiling has proven useful in all criminal investigations.

It's the paranoia and abuse of such a system that concerns me.

A kid drawing pictures of Bush with horns being questioned by the FBI is one instance of paranoia and abuse, in my opinion.
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chelaque liberal Donating Member (981 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 07:03 AM
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3. WAKE UP AMERICA
My God! Can't they see what is going on?
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:23 AM
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4. Seisint of Boca
From the article:

Seisint Inc., is a Boca Raton, Fla., company founded by a millionaire, Hank Asher, who stepped down from its board of directors last year after revelations of past ties to drug smugglers.

More on that here:

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Seisint%2C_Inc.

Of course if you want to play around with Google for a bit we'll find some sort of BFEE connection with Asher.

Wonder if this is gearing up for Florida voter purge. No I don't, of course it is.... Terrorist quotient becomes democratic voter quotient.

Not that thought police isn't effed up enough. They had to call it the MATRIX, right.

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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:48 AM
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7. Asher is Choicepoint
GREG PALAST: Yeah, well, Amy, and Juan, it's De Ja Vu all over again, I can't believe it. My good friend Hank Asher is back with another alias this one is Seisint. For those who read my book or Michael Moore's back, database technologies, his old company is the organization that came up with the list now up to 97,000 names of supposed felons in Florida who are scrubbed off the voter roles before the presidential election, it turns out almost every name on that list was an innocent person, they were named as felons by this company, by Hank Asher's company, named at felons, they weren't felons, they lost their vote and, surprise, most of them were African Americans. And that fixed our election.

Hank is back. Now Hank was thrown off the board of the company he founded by the U.S. Drug enforcement agency. Because of his connections to Bahamian drug dealers, they said if that guy is on we don't want anything to do with him because of his connections. So here he is back with a different costume on. And up to the same tricks, first he is such a wonderful guy, of course first thing he's doing is jumping on the September 11th war on terror bandwagon see if he can suck a few bucks out that have one, too. So the first thing he's doing is giving away supposedly free software that's exactly what his last company did with Database Technologies to strub the voter roles.

http://freewebhosting.hostdepartment.com/t/tomyum/local_html/theMatrix.html

Asher has resigned, like Poindexter. The Matrix lives on.

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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:30 AM
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10. hmmm: Officials wary of felon purge
Officials wary of felon purge
County voting officials, aware of scrutiny and hoping to avoid 2000's problems, are in no hurry to clean up voter rolls.

By MATTHEW WAITE, Times Staff Writer
Published May 19, 2004

...

This year, the state compiled its own list by comparing a statewide voter roll with a database of felony convictions compiled by FDLE. Each match is assigned a score, depending on the strength of the match.

To be flagged as a potential felon, the match has to score 50 points on an 80-point scale. Typos, nicknames, misspellings and data entry errors can affect the match.

from:

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/05/19/Tampabay/Officials_wary_of_fel.shtml
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:48 AM
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8. Database firm gave feds terror suspects - MSGOP
WASHINGTON - Before helping to launch the criminal information project known as Matrix, a database contractor gave U.S. and Florida authorities the names of 120,000 people who showed a statistical likelihood of being terrorists — sparking some investigations and arrests.

The "high terrorism factor" scoring system also became a key selling point for the involvement of the database company, Seisint Inc., in the Matrix project.

Public records obtained by The Associated Press from several states show that Justice Department officials cited the scoring technology in appointing Seisint sole contractor on the federally funded, $12 million project.

Seisint and the law enforcement officials who oversee Matrix insist that the terrorism scoring system ultimately was kept out of the project, largely because of privacy concerns.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5020795/
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:58 AM
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9. I Hope Anyone Falsely Arrested Due to their Database Sues Them
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