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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:53 AM
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The Seeds have been Sown (Dahr Jamail from Baghdad)
The Seeds have been Sown
by Dahr Jamail | Posted May 21, 2004 at 02:17 PM Baghdad time

“Iraq is sitting atop a volcano,” says a school teacher in Haditha. “The Americans are aggravating people here, trying to get a reaction. Everyone in this province is against them now!” Most Iraqis I speak with nowadays are seething with rage towards the occupiers of their country. With their mosques being raided, damaged or destroyed on what has become a nearly daily basis, they have had enough.

Then, as if the unremitting stream of horrendous photographs documenting the widespread torturing of Iraqis within Abu Ghraib prison (among other detention facilities throughout Iraq) are not enough, the recent wedding party massacre has brought the fury to an entirely new level. The continuing cultural insensitivity and unwillingness to take responsibility for the slaughter by the U.S. military is not helping ebb the rage felt by Iraqis about the incident.

While Arabic media has shown footage of the mangled bodies of the 25 women and children killed by U.S. helicopters, Marine General James Mattis in Fallujah responded: "Ten miles from Syrian border and 80 miles from nearest city and a wedding party? Don't be naïve. Plus they had 30 males of military age with them. How many people go to the middle of the desert to have a wedding party?"

Someone should inform General Mattis that most of Iraq just happens to be located in a desert, and that celebrations of all kinds in the desert are not uncommon here.

(more)

http://blog.newstandardnews.net/iraqdispatches/archives/000423.html#more
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JETS Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:56 AM
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1. A wise person once said:
You can bomb the world into pieces, but you cannot bomb the world into peace!
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 10:13 AM
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4. That person would be Michael Franti
http://www.spearheadvibrations.com/media/audio/bomb_the_world-armageddon.mp3

http://www.spearheadvibrations.com/sounds.html


Bomb the world (armageddon version)

I don't understand the whole reason why
You tellin' us all that we need to unify
Rally round the flag
And beat the drums of war
Sing the same old songs
Ya know we heard 'em all before
You tellin' me it's unpatriotic
But i call it what i see it
When i see it's idiotic
The tears of one mother
Are the same as any other
Drop food on the kids
While you're murderin' their fathers
But don't bother to show it on cnn
Brothers and sisters don't believe them
It's not a war against evil
It's really just revenge
Engaged on the poorest by the same rich men
Fight terrorists wherever they be found
But why you not bombing tim mcveigh's hometown
You can say what you want propaganda television
But all bombing is terrorism

(chorus)

We can chase down all our enemies
Bring them to their knees
We can bomb the world to pieces
But we can't bomb it into peace
Whoa we may even find a solution
To hunger and disease
We can bomb the world to pieces
But we can't bomb it into peace

911
Fire in the skies
Many people died
And no one even really knows why
They tellin' lies of division and fear
We yelled and cried
No one listened for years
But like, "who put us here?"
And who's responsible?
Well, there's no debatin'
Cause if they ask me i say
It's big corporations
World trade organization
Tri-lateral action
International sanctions, satan
Seems like it'll be an endless price tag
Of wars tremendous
And most disturbingly
The death toll is so horrendous
So i send this to those
Who say they defend us
Send us into harm's way
We should all make a rememberence that
This is bigger than terrorism
Blood is blood is blood and um
Love is true vision
Who will listen?
How many songs it takes for you to see
You can bomb the world to pieces
You can't bomb it into peace


(chorus)
Power to the peaceful
And i say, love to the people y'all
Power to the peaceful
And i say, love to the people y'all

(chorus)

http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/lyrics/bombtheworld.html
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 10:03 AM
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2. We are miserably failing to win the peace.
And, most times, I think the neocon assholes are doing the provoking sh*t on purpose. They want to inflame the whole region into another world war so that they can occupy and control the whole ME.

:argh:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 10:16 AM
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6. Don't forget the Rapture
I swear, the neocons ARE trying to stir up as much hosility as possible. Their version of putting a gun to God's head and demanding the return of Jesus!
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 11:09 AM
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9. Well, you can't have an apocalypse without an enemy.
The right-wing lunatics desire a holy war with Islam to start the Apocalypse. Maybe the right-wing holy-Joes in the Army are trying to provoke one.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 10:04 AM
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3. thank the felonius five
for their infinite wisdom.
sarcasm thingy
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 10:15 AM
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5. General James Mattis
The Butcher
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 10:16 AM
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7. Mattis clearly proves the point when he says
Edited on Fri May-21-04 10:16 AM by Gman
"Ten miles from Syrian border and 80 miles from nearest city and a wedding party? Don't be naïve. Plus they had 30 males of military age with them. How many people go to the middle of the desert to have a wedding party?"

No, you don't understand the Iraqi culture, do you? The tragic thing is that you can't argue with and convince a complete and utter fool like Mattis. Mattis would only understand if the wedding is held at a Church of Christ in downtown Muskogee.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 10:29 AM
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8. Weddings in the desert
I don't know about Iraqis, but I know Arizonans.

Weddings in the desert are not unusual here. Or up in the mountains either.

As someone once said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and a wedding in the desert is just a wedding in the desert.
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