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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 06:33 AM
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WP Abuse not to "soften" Iraqis: "I love to make a grown man piss himself"
Edited on Sat May-22-04 07:06 AM by spooked
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46523-2004May21.html

"Prisoners posed in three of the most infamous photographs of abuse to come out of the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq were not being softened Post.up for interrogation by intelligence officers but instead were being punished for criminal acts or the amusement of their jailers, according to previously secret documents obtained by The Washingtonon Post..."

"Spec. Joseph M. Darby told investigators that he returned to Abu Ghraib from leave in November and heard about a shooting at the prison's "hard site," which contains Tier 1A. He said that he asked the MP in charge of the tier's night shift, Spec. Charles A. Graner Jr., if he had any photographs of the cell where the shooting took place.

Darby said Graner handed him two CDs of photographs.

"I thought the discs just had pictures of Iraq, the cell where the shooting occurred," Darby told investigators.

Instead, Darby viewed hundreds of photographs showing naked detainees being abused by U.S. soldiers.

"It was just wrong," Darby said. "I knew I had to do something."


He said that he asked Graner, a Pennsylvania prison guard in civilian life, about the photographs. Graner replied: "The Christian in me says it's wrong, but the corrections officer in me says, 'I love to make a grown man piss himself.' "
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Citizen Daryl Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 06:45 AM
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1. Dupe. n/t
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Tina H Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 06:46 AM
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2. If the torture was not for interrogation purposes . . .
Edited on Sat May-22-04 06:48 AM by Tina H
Then should the torture by considered as "terrorism"?

It would be pretty cool if the mercenaries are brought up on "terrorism" charges. I think it would get people thinking in a more productive way about a (stupid, RW) question I heard asked in fall 2001, specifically:

"Why can't the US just fight a war on evil?" :crazy:

Of course, there are a lot of reasons why not. The fact that some of us are evil is one of these reasons. This important reason seems clearer now than in fall 2001.

Sometimes I wish I has audio recordings of the political conversations with centrists (some Democrats, yes) and RW'ers back in late 2001 to early 2003 time period. Their bullshit is coming home to roost everyday in so many ways.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 09:20 AM
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3. Spec. Joseph M. Darby
should be given more credit than he has been given. We should study why he was able to act with conscience and the others didn't. Why did he maintained his honor and sense of duty, while Brigadier Generals lost it? Darby is a REAL hero.
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Alerter_ Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 09:24 AM
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4. yep, he's a true American patriot
He should be promoted, we need people like him.
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 09:26 AM
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5. That's right...Darby is one of the Whistleblowers
http://thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,9523348%255E954,00.html

Man who blew whistle 'thinks for himself'

"THE military policeman who blew the whistle on soldiers who were photographed abusing Iraqi detainees has an independent streak and knows right from wrong, according to people who know him.

Specialist Joe Darby was officially commended for promptly alerting superiors after discovering photographs of fellow 372nd Military Police Company personnel taking part in abuse of prisoners at the Abu Ghraib prison.

Darby, 24 – still on duty overseas – "didn't worry about what people thought", said Robert Ewing, his history teacher and football coach at North Star High in Pennsylvania.

The tip led to an investigation whose findings outraged people worldwide and changed the tenor of the US war effort in Iraq."

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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 09:58 AM
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6. Well I have a hunch he is going to do some pissing on himself real soon
Federal prison is next for this asshole and he will be someone's bitch. I guess he is going to see how a gang rape feels first hand. Karma is a bitch sometimes.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 10:16 AM
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8. Duplicate, please discuss here
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