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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:45 PM
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Powell: It Is Up to the Terrorists in Iraq to Bring Stability in Iraq
Powell: It Is Up to the Terrorists in Iraq to Bring Stability in Iraq

By Sarah El Deeb Associated Press Writer

Published: Jun 25, 2004


CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - The war in Iraq is straining America's military, and terrorists battling U.S. troops should lay down arms and help the new Iraqi government, Secretary of State Colin Powell said.

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Powell added: "This is costing the American taxpayers a great deal of money and it is straining our armed forces considerably."

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Powell called on the "terrorists ... former regime elements and murderers to decide whether or not they will stop this activity and support their own leaders ... or whether they will continue to try to kill innocent people, policemen who are trying to protect the Iraqi people."

Powell acknowledged that the decision to interfere militarily in Iraq "has created a difficult situation" made more difficult by the insurgency.

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http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBP3NU1XVD.html

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I just post it. I don't claim to assimilate it.



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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:47 PM
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1. unfuckinbelievable...
:wow:
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 01:13 AM
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19. Actually a good exit strategy for the pukes. Too bad it's a pussy move
Never mention the fact that they caused it all.
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CharlesGroce Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:50 PM
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2. Meaning...
we're not backing down.

I wonder what John Kerry's Dept. of State will say when he orders 40K more troops into Iraq to 'win' the war on terror. Do you? And should you wonder? Shouldn't we know the answer to that before we vote?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:58 PM
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 09:51 PM
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3. Fuck you powell..
I just saw your ass up on the big screen lyin' your head off.
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:27 PM
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4. The dim light bulb in my head just flickered.....
With respect to what's going to happen on the 1st of July, I don't know. It's up to these terrorists and these former regime elements and murderers to decide whether or not they will stop this activity and support their own leaders who are now in charge of their country, or whether they will continue to try to kill innocent people, policemen who are trying to protect the Iraqi people or, as in the case we saw a couple of days ago, two sisters coming home from work, working with an American organization but that organization was helping the Iraqi people.

And so after the 1st of July, this kind of murderous, terrorist, criminal activity being directed at the Iraqi leadership, at the Iraqi people and at the hopes and dreams of the Iraqi people, your readers have been saying they wish to see sovereignty returned. We have now created conditions where sovereignty is being returned.


and more (hey, it's public domain..gov shit and all)

Who is the source of instability right now? The 138,000 American troops and their coalition partners who are there to help the Iraqi people or the former members of this regime that are doing what? They are blowing up the pipelines, they are blowing up the sewers as fast as they're built and blowing up the electrical transformers. They're bringing down the power lines. They are blowing up police stations that are full of Iraqis, not Americans.

So who is creating the instability in the region? Who? It is not our soldiers. Our soldiers want to finish the job and come home and turn it over to the Iraqis. We did not come to own Iraq. We did not come to take Iraq's oil. We came to depose a dictator who had gassed his fellow citizens and neighbors in the region, a man who ran his country into the ground.

And so it is the fact that we had to act militarily has created a difficult situation, but the situation is being made more difficult by these individuals who want to thrive in this instability. And so the current source of the instability are these terrorists and murderers and former regime elements.


http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/33938.htm

Soooooooo....after July 1st it won't be OUR fault if there are more bombings and other nasty shit. I never understood "why the rush" for July 1st (other than the usual political fodder bush* can use at the RNC), but now it makes sense....hey, I'm a little slow.


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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:34 PM
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6. Yup. Sovereignty means they take the blame without the authority.
It's standard Busholini bullshit: collect the profits and lay off the costs on others. That's why they're "National Socialists" - they "socialize" (also called externalization) the costs, sometimes at the national level, while taking "responsibility" for (possession of) the profits.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:30 PM
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5. "It is up to 'the Terrorists' to bring stability..."
I don't know Colin. I like that 'the Terrorists', like the Chicago Police in '68, are there to preserve the disorder...
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Miss Authoritiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:43 PM
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7. Please Lord, let this be a typographical error.
"I hope that as we watch these next days, which we expect to be difficult days, we expect them (terrorists) to try to do everything to disrupt this," Powell said.

Powell's hoping that the terrorists try to do everything to disrupt the transfer of sovereignty?

Well, maybe he is. Who knows.

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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:54 PM
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8. The "leaders" are not their leaders at all.
They were neither wanted nor chosen by the Iraqi people, therefore
the Iraqis owe them no loyalty.

Neither are the Iraqis terrorists - they are patriots, fighting to
rid their country of an occupying force.

Why is this so hard for Bushco to understand?
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:01 PM
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9. You know ...
Edited on Fri Jun-25-04 11:02 PM by BattyDem


When Bush* was sworn in, I was furious and I felt betrayed by the SC, but I also felt a faint glimmer of hope because Colin Powell was Secretary of State. I figured he was an intelligent, reasonable man and as SoS, he'd be able to keep Bush* from going too far. WTF was I thinking? I can't believe how wrong I was about this man. I really got suckered! I respected him once, but now he makes my skin crawl. :-( :mad:

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Geo55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:23 AM
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16. I share your disillusion....
never thought he was a good fit for BushCo...
surprise ! ...fits right in an' keeps on message.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:16 PM
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10. Avoiding responsibility again
WE invaded, it's OUR responsibility now! Did you really think they would be welcoming us with flowers?

Maybe the US military should be the one to lay down its arms?
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:17 PM
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11. and the sooner the terrorists wear us down and compell us to leave
the sooner peace is going to happen.
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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:24 PM
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12. And this guy is our Secretary of State
Edited on Fri Jun-25-04 11:37 PM by Ironpost
What the hell do bush* and company have on this guy anyway.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:39 PM
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13. It's just too expensive for terrorists to be terrorists
Now cut it out!
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:59 PM
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15. But, but... the State Department's report on Terra says
there are no Terraists in Iraq.

How can SECSTATE call on them?
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 01:06 AM
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17. How long will it take them
to "restore chaos?"
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 01:10 AM
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18. What are we to make if this?
Powell speaks for a reason. He is either ahead of or behind something. What is it?

I can't process this now.
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 01:49 AM
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20. Riiiiight
because they're just going to stop once they're free and democratic. It's not like our occupation has anything to do with the resistance... *sarcasm off*
Besides, I thought the UN said it was the occupying force that was responsible for stability and secuirtt. :eyes:
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 04:53 AM
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21. sounds like bush* Inc. is turning Iraq control
over to the terrorists...

freudian slip? mis-speak?

Official control will be turned over in 4 days, I expect all hell to break loose

meanwhile -- bush*'s numbers continue to drop or at best the numbers are treading water in the cess pool, 4th of July weekend approaching, not very good "reviews" on bush*'s trip according to first few nes reports, June 30th deadline doesn't look promising for positive reaction -- can you say "terra-terra-terralert?"
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 05:32 AM
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22. Colon- A Disgraceful Liar
He knew that his presentation at the UN was pure crap! He keeps spewing it. Iraqi Leaders? US Puppets and the Iraqis know it. Most Americans will be duped by this sham called sovereignty.

Full Sovereignty?

"Throughout the spring, as hundreds died in the spiraling conflict, as Regime bosses applied their hardcore "anti-terrorist" tortures to innocent bystanders raked up in their occupation nets, as Regime mouthpieces prated endlessly of "liberation" and "sovereignty," Bush viceroy Paul Bremer was quietly signing a series of edicts that will give the United States effective control over the military, ministries -- and money -- of any Iraqi government, for years to come, The Wall Street Journal reports.

Bremer has placed U.S.-appointed "commissions" made up of Americans and local puppets throughout Iraqi government agencies; the ministers supposedly in charge weren't even told of the edicts. These boards "will serve multiyear terms and have significant authority to run criminal investigations, award contracts, direct troops and subpoena citizens," the Journal reports. Any new Iraqi government "will have little control over its armed forces, lack the ability to make or change laws and be unable to make major decisions within specific ministries without tacit U.S. approval, say U.S. officials.


Earlier Bremer edicts laid the Iraqi economy wide open to ruthless exploitation by Bush-approved foreign "investors"; dominance of such key sectors as banking, communications -- and energy -- is already well advanced. The latest dictates aim to ensure that this organized looting goes on, no matter what kind of makeshift "interim government" the United Nations manage to piece together. Bush's plans to build a Saddamite fortress embassy in Baghdad and 14 permanent military bases around the country are designed to provide the knee-breaking "security" for these lucrative arrangements."



http://context.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2004/05/21/120.html


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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 06:00 AM
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23. Is this a war
against "Terror" or "Terrorists"?

If all ya gotta do is say, "stop it now, don't do that any more", why wage a war, which KILLS people? :crazy:
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 06:34 AM
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24. Powell got the message--
everybody call them terrorists now. They are not insurgents or dissidents, whose babies and children, wives, husbands, mothers and fathers were murdered by Bush's bombs day after day. They are "terrorists" who do not want to be free and accept the leaders we plunked down into their so called government and forced them accept.

and the Iraq war is their fault too.

These were the people who before Bush's attack and invasion were not the enemy.

Sure is costing us a lot of money. Outrageous amounts of money just to keep Halliburton and the rest assured they can keep the lucrative oil fields Cheney handed to them.
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Kinkistyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 06:40 AM
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25. Great. Now he's ENCOURAGING them.
"This is costing the American taxpayers a great deal of money and it is straining our armed forces considerably."

Geezus effin Keerist.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 07:30 AM
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26. right ..
can't they think of OUR problems for an effing change?
You got that right. It's like a flock flew over the cookoo's nest.
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