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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:26 PM
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Bush Insists He Has Made America Safer
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=615&e=2&u=/nm/20040712/pl_nm/campaign_bush_dc

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Faced with polls that show many believe the terror threat against them has increased due to the Iraq war, Bush argued that wars against Iraq, Afghanistan (news - web sites) and al Qaeda have made them safer, as has diplomacy that led Libya to surrender its weapons of mass destruction programs.


"Today because America has acted, and because America has led, the forces of terror and tyranny have suffered defeat after defeat, and America and the world are safer," Bush told employees at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, where components of Libya's nuclear program are being stored.


Bush's war against terrorism was supposed to be an easy sell on the campaign trail, and is an important plank of his re-election effort.


But the Iraq war has spawned doubts among Americans. In a recent NBC News/Wall St. Journal poll, 51 percent of Americans said they felt the threat of terror was increased, not reduced.


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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:28 PM
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1. He also insisted Saddam had WMD and posed a threat to the US.
So?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:33 PM
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5. hey l v....
I love your kitties... :loveya:
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:29 PM
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Um..."Significant attacks' at 21-year high, revised data show"
U.S. raises figures for 2003 terrorist attacks
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. government restated its 2003 accounting of terrorist attacks Tuesday, reporting a sharp increase in the number of significant attacks and more than doubling its initial count of those killed.

The State Department's annual Patterns of Global Terrorism report now counts 208 terrorist attacks as having occurred in 2003, with 625 dead. When the report was released in April, it counted 307 deaths in a total of 190 terror attacks.

The number of people killed in terrorist attacks worldwide still declined in 2003 when compared with 2002, when 725 people were killed. But the decline was much less steep than originally reported, and the number of "significant attacks" -- those involving large numbers of casualties or property damage -- increased from 138 in 2002 to 175 in 2003, a 21-year-high.

"We have 18 more total events, five more significant events and 13 more nonsignificant events than originally reported," said Cofer Black, the State Department's counterterrorism coordinator. "These new figures are accompanied by a dramatic increase in the numbers of casualties originally calculated."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/22/powell.terror...
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:29 PM
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2. Well, what else can he do?
Admit that he Cheneyed up? Not a chance.

I just wish the Media Whore cheerleaders would put down the pom-poms and begin reporting facts instead of RNC blast fax talking points.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:31 PM
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3. If it is safer, why are we talking about holding off on elections?
Previously through world wars we have always had elections. If it is safer now, why all the deferred election talk?
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:46 PM
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13. What a good comeback!
How does he explain that?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:31 PM
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4. More...
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mctrotter5 Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:33 PM
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6. So if we are safer one must ask, why are we on an alert and
talking about what we will do when the terrorist attack hits and the elections must be suspended.
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:33 PM
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7. Again, with the Turkey Mustard sandwich
Occidental Petroleum "led Libya to surrender its weapons of mass destruction programs." That..and a few million spent lobbying... and a quiet little moment at the UN on September 12, 2003.

Did bush* happen to mention where Libya got their nuke "stuff"?
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:34 PM
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8. DoHS Ridge tells the Nation ...
Al Qaeda threatens like a dangerous ghoul, stalking middle america with untold mass murder ...

The WH floats the idea of cancelling democracy ....

And WE are to believe we are SAFER ? ...

They CANNOT have it both ways ! ... They CANNOT yank our collective FEAR chain, and then tell us we are safer ....

Yet MORE Hypocrisy and LIES !
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:34 PM
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9. No sympathy
He is making America and the world SUFFER, not safer. My sense is that the colonial war in Iraq may proove to be his undoing. I am saddened by all the suffering he has caused.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:37 PM
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10. OOPS! Gotta run now....
:puke: :puke: :puke:
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:38 PM
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11. Terra
If he is so confident that he has protected America
from those Killing Killers
Then why this new alert and hes trying to cancel the elections
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:41 PM
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12. Yeah, and people in 1945 Berlin...
Edited on Mon Jul-12-04 06:41 PM by slor
were told that Germany was winning the war, even though they could hear and feel Russian artillery rounds landing all around them.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:58 PM
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14. Shrub is is a pathetic liar.
So are the rest of his War Criminal cabal.

It is real pitiful that around 42% of Amerikans are so ignorarant &/or stupid to believe the BushCo crap. It is downright disgusting that Amerika has sunk to such a low point that millions of people still support a gang of greedy, warmongering thugs that have placed this Nation in the dungheap of hypocrisy.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:05 PM
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15. * should go on "Last Comic Standing"
cause he is soooooooooooooooo funny
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:05 PM
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16. I loved this speech!
Gave me laugh after laugh, but the best of all was this one...

Bush quote from Cicinnati speech a few days before IWR vote:
"Iraq could decide on any given day to provide a biological or chemical weapon to a terrorist group or individual terrorists."

Bush from speech today:
"We removed a declared enemy of America who had the capability of producing weapons of mass murder and could have passed that capability to terrorists bent on acquiring them."

Note the smooth incorporation of "capability" instead of actual weapons. Evidently Dubya hasn't been told yet that the reports filtering out are less than glowing regarding even Saddam's supposed capabilities, which means in a few short months the new quote will be:
"On any given day Saddam could have had a really pesky cold and given it to someone else, who in turn could have unleashed it on the American people. I chose to act decisively."

They hate us for our dry noses, you know. :eyes:
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Aunt Anti-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:52 PM
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17. I sure don't FEEL any safer.
In fact I can't wait until Bush is evicted and Kerry sends him packing so I can sleep at night like I used to before this dipshit took office.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:55 PM
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18. He's A Self Deluded FOOL. There is NO OTHER EXPLANATION.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:59 PM
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19. How can we be safer if they're concerned aout how to postpone the election
What a blatant lie!
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Betty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:11 PM
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20. America is safer for bigots
and religious fanatics
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:19 PM
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22. Should religious fanatics have more to fear?
Wouldn't terrorists prefer to go after religious fanatics out to get them?
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:15 PM
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21. I remember some months ago reading here at DU
a UPI article about the real reasons behind Libya's actions. It had to do with fear of OBL.

I wish I could find (or saved) the link.

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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:24 PM
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23. Wonder if those poor slobs in Afghanistan feel safer.
Oh, they don't count. I keep forgetting.
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:36 PM
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25. Iraq too eom
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:31 PM
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24. If it's so damn "safe" then they won't be
cancelling the elections..will they?
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revree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:25 PM
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26. YEAH, SAFER FOR RICH, WHITE, CHRISTIAN MALES
WHOOPDEEDOO.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:31 PM
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27. RICH, WHITE, CHRISTIAN MALES
Next target for the international head-loppers association. Mark my word. As the world gets more dangerous for us, it gets more dangerous by a quantum leap for the fat cats. When it all plays out, Kenny-Boy will be glad he is in the relative safety of a federal slammer.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:36 PM
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28. How was Iraq a direct threat to the United States?
*they had one-third the military budget before the war of the tiny nation of Kuwait ... KUWAIT!!!

*they had no air force, no navy, tanks falling apart from lack of parts, and their army was a shadow of what it had been when they had invaded Kuwait

*they had endured years of sanctions and an embargo, further depleting their ability to build any war machine into the distant future

*their nation was under constant surveillance and restricted with northern and southern no-fly zones

*the northern Kurdish part of Iraq was party autonomous, not even under Saddam's full control

*the UN was again sending weapons inspectors into the country and coming up empty again and again

*if Iraq had made any kind of major hostile move in the region, seriously endangering either Israel or the United States, Israel could have taken them out with their own nukes
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 04:26 PM
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29. Sheesh!
"Today because America has acted, and because America has led, the forces of terror and tyranny have suffered defeat after defeat, and America and the world are safer," Bush told employees at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, where components of Libya's nuclear program are being stored."

Yeah right! I bet those Iraqis and Afghanis really
feel safer! :puke:

This guy is delusional! :argh:
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 04:37 PM
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30. Merica's only safer for blithering idiots
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