US Will Ask UN for Move to Widen the Force in Iraq

[kskiska]

WASHINGTON, Aug. 20 — The Bush administration, seizing on the bomb attack on the United Nations headquarters in Baghdad, is preparing a new Security Council resolution that would urge other nations to send troops and aid to secure Iraq, administration officials said today.

The new resolution would allow the American military to maintain control over any international forces in Iraq — something the Pentagon has insisted on. But the Bush administration is hoping that a new resolution, if passed, would encourage nations like India, Pakistan and Turkey to contribute troops by providing some sort of United Nations cover to the American operation.

Up to now, those nations, and others, have balked at contributing troops without a United Nations resolution backing such a deployment.

In Iraq today, the top American administrator, L. Paul Bremer III, demanded that the Iraqi Governing Council condemn Tuesday's bomb attack and begin to take greater responsibility for security. And American F.B.I. agents combing the scene of the bombing, which killed 20 people, said the truck used in the attack had carried about 1,500 pounds of explosives including mortar shells, hand grenades and a 500-pound Soviet-made bomb.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, speaking in Honduras, said that despite the bombing in Iraq, he saw no need to increase troop levels, at least for now. "At the moment, the conclusion of the responsible military officials is that the force levels are where they should be," he said.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/21/international/worldspecial/21DIPL.html?hp

[bpilgrim]

1. the loyal opposition needs to hammer on the need for a U.N. takeover

the neo-cons backs are up against the wall why aren't we going for the throat?

peace

[lkinsale]

8. Graham hammered it on Hardball tonight

The transcript isn't up yet. Graham said Bush had screwed up by not planning for anything after the invasion. When asked if we needed to expand number of troops, he said, yes, but not U.S. troops. Need international help. Tweety said, why would other countries want to send troops now? And Graham said, Yeah, good question. (LOL, well he put it differently.)

[The Magistrate]

10. Indeed, Sir

No one will come to the aid of U.S. occupation in Iraq: no one will make the least attempt to pull the jackanapes' chestnuts out of this fire. The criminals of the '00 Coup contrived this fiasco alone, and alone they will be borne down by its consequences. Imperialism is not a "Boys Own Adventure" tale.

[femmecahors]

14. I hope your analysis is correct. n/t

. . .

[lanlady]

16. jackanapes?

Wow, haven't seen that word since the last time I read a 19th century novel. :hi:

[bemildred]

17. Nice to hear your voice again, Sir.

:-)

[WilliamPitt]

21. Welcome back, sir

It is magnificent to see your name here once again.

[9215]

25. Well, the UN already has

entered and it is muddying the waters of who is responsible for the mess. Now nations, previously committed to act under UN sanction have to follow through with their conditional committment.

I hope that other nations will refuse to go into Iraq, but I fear that the UN in the breach will now put them in the untenable situation of trying to enforce a policy in Iraq they neither wanted, nor have the authority (as granted by the BFEE)to act.

[David Zephyr]

29. Great to Hear from The Magistrate Again!

And I am with you in that "No one will come to the aid of U.S. occupation in Iraq". We are paying $26,000 per Polish soldier to be part of the "Coalition of the Willing". Willing to do what? Sell their nation's poorest sons and daughters into a hellfire on earth for global petroleum interests.

Glad to see you again The Magistrate! :hi:

[AnnabelLee]

2. Am I missing something?

bushco put the kibosh on trying to get another UN Resolution only a few days ago, & now they think that other countries will want to send troops after the bombing that just took place in Iraq? The Polish troops are pulling out of part of the area they were supposed to take responsibility for because it's too dangerous...move along, nothing to see here...:eyes:

[DuctapeFatwa]

3. I think the UN will be very careful to do as it's told now

Not that they were failing to obey orders before, but there was some grumbling. I imagine they have learned their lesson about that now.

[alcuno]

4. Bremer "demanded......

that the Iraqi Governing Council.....begin to take greater responsibility for security." Say what? It's an occupation, you moron!

I also heard Bremer say today that "Islamic terrorists have moved into Iraq." Sounds like an admission that they weren't there before.

[indictrichardperle]

5. Survey Says !

Please Fuck Off

[pw]

6. What a joke

Why would other nations want to put their citizens' lives at risk, under the control of commanders who have proven singularly ineffective at protecting either soldiers or civilians.

(Of course, this fits perfectly with Twit's historical pattern as a businessman: fail miserably and call for others to bail him out while taking credit for any shred of success.)

[PartyPooper]

7. These Bu$h neo-cons won't give an inch to the U.N.!

After all, this is their "game"...and, they want to take home the "prize".

[Eloriel]

9. "Seizing on the bomb attack"

I said yesterday, let's see what the Bush administration calls for as a result of this attack. This is an attempt to get UN involvement without more UN control.

As some eloquent DUer once said: "How convenient. How fucking conveeeenient."

And what the hell is Rummy smoking these days, anyway?

Eloriel

[Peachhead22]

11. Dear U.N.,

We know we told you to f*ck off, but please tell the individual countries we told to f*ck off to send their young men and women to help us out. We're tired of them telling us to f*ck off when we ask them. We honestly thought we were the only country allowed to tell others to f*ck off. No need to trouble yourself with appointing U.N. commanders. No really, we insist. We really must insist. They'll be taking orders from us.

Signed, George Bush

PS-Tell them not to expect any proceeds or business contracts from Iraq either.

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Now how could anyone resist that sales pitch. <sarcasm>

[wabeewoman]

12. You wonder what world these guys live in...

"The effort, initiated by the State Department, is designed to harness outrage at the bombing to draw more countries into securing and rebuilding Iraq, without surrendering significant American authority, U.S. sources said."

A U.S. official said, "It's time for the international community to stand up and do more."


Get in here and help clean up our mess! Would that be your reaction? I don't think so...The only thing that will bring other countries into Iraq is to share the bounty/oil/rebuilding contracts with them. I would guess any outrage is aimed at the clueless bush administration who invaded Iraq against the wishes of the rest of the world!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23276-2003Aug20.html

[femmecahors]

15. Could the U.S. have been behind the UN bombing?

This Administration makes me paranoid . . .

[Paschall]

19. Behind the bombing or not

As Kofi Annan diplomatically tried to reiterate, according to international law, as the occupying powers, the US and the UK are responsible for the country--the public's safety and well-being--now.

Canal Hotel bombing? Can you say 9/11 intelligence failure redux?

[notadmblnd]

33. Motive..

See post number 12

[Beetwasher]

13. Lookee See! Everyone's Saying We Need the Intnat'l Community!

So, we're clobbering them over the head again to make them help us clean up a shitstorm that we made and to do it under our terms...Now THAT'S diplomacy! :eyes:

[Ouabache]

18. The Coalition of the Irrelevant

Weren't Rummy and his dragoons calling the UN irrelevant just several months back?

They ought to tell Rummy and Bu$hco to take that irrelevancy and cram it now.

[DeaconBlues]

32. Rummy would be blushing if he actually had a conscience

Hell, Rummy was just saying we don't need anymore troops in Iraq just the other day. Now Powell is begging the UN for bodies. Do these bastards have any idea what they are doing?

[lebkuchen]

20. Rummy et al still haven't gotten the support troops on the front

and Halliburton into the support roles.

They continue to lay seige to our troops until they get their corporate tentacles firmly around the DoD.

[Dover]

22. If the Bush cabal is responsible for the UN bombing...and I think they are

it reveals just how desperate the situation is regarding Iraq. And they didn't like the UN solution.

It also reveals their typical pattern of creating a crisis to initiate a specific response. Or they'll simply eliminate "obstacles" without a second thought. It's their MO....and it's their sickness. It won't stop until they are stopped.

In this case they seem to hold the expectation (or "demand" it) that others rally round them.

These people are in deep, they've painted themselves into a corner, and they have nothing to show for all the pain and destruction they've caused...nor do they have any support. The only protection for them and their loot will soon have to come from a private army and bribes or blackmail of other countries.

[Voltaire99]

23. Nations of the world, hark! Resist!

You have nothing to fear but...er, well...now that you mention it...our trade policies, army, nukes, hate radio jocks, and bloodthirsty leaders!

Other than that, no worries.

[moondust]

24. Privatize the profits; socialize the bloodshed.

That's quite a formula they have there.

Forget it, Dumbyass.

[Ellen Forradalom]

26. Well FANCY THAT!

The US rushes right into Iraq against the world's wishes and now the US wants everyone else to help mop up the mess!

As mother of a four-year-old, I hear this all the time!
"MOMMMY! It's broken!"
"Of course it's broken, you pulled everything off it!"
"Fix it!"
"No! You broke it on purpose! I saw you do it!"

[NickB79]

27. Trying to get more troops when Rummy says we don't need more?

WTF? "No, we have plenty of troops there now to get the job done" and in the next breath "We need a UN resolution to get more troops from India, France and Germany."

1984 had a word for this: Newspeak.

[htuttle]

28. Technically, it's 'doublethink'

Doublethink is the ability to hold two contradictory thoughts in one's mind at the same time, and yet believe both of them.

It's considered a highly desirable trait among Party officials.

[Kellanved]

30. They call this asking?

--snip
"I think anybody making a contribution, a military contribution, sending their young men and women into harm's way, want them to be under solid, responsible, competent military leadership of the kind that is being provided by the coalition and the military component of the coalition under General (John) Abizaid's command," Powell said.
--snap

http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=3316495

If that's asking then it's asking for a "non", a "nein" and a "íåò".

Edit: The Board doesn't seem to like cyrillic letters.

[Parche]

31. I hope the UN wont

They were snubbed last Febree and March, why would they want to help out now?
bush got us into this mess, he will be forced to get us out