Republicans say US ready to take on China, North Korea

[Nambe]

NEW YORK (AFP)

President George W. Bush's Republican party warned the United States would not tolerate aggression from North Korea or any Chinese military moves against Taiwan.

On day one of their national convention, the party adopted a tough-talking platform that hailed Bush's war on terrorism and vowed no let-up in his efforts to realign global priorities and push for democracy around the world.

In the section on Asia, the Republicans took special aim at China, expressing "profound disagreements" on human rights, over Taiwan and on Beijing's "outdated path" of seeking to develop advanced weaponry.

"We deny the right of Beijing to impose its rule on the free Taiwanese people. All issues regarding Taiwan's future must be resolved peacefully and must be agreeable to the people of Taiwan," the party said. ..
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[Maple]

1. Anyone remember the downed plane

returned in boxes by China, after Bush apologized?

Cough, cough.

[chelsea0011]

5. A shining forgotten and now ignored moment on the infancy of Bush as Pres

[LiberalFighter]

33. But that was before gw* became the War President

[krkaufman]

40. The Peace President..!

[fob]

60. War pretzeldent!

[Rose Siding]

2. Dear God in heaven

How can they say such a thing?

Our state dept *just* got through telling Chavez to dial back the rhetoric. Unbelievable.

[daleo]

3. "I'll take on anyone. Anyone I tells you" (swigs from bottle)

"Come on, try me!" (falls down) "Your H-bombs don't scare me." (passes out).

[despairing optimist]

4. "All we need is an army," said one GOP delegate, smacking his lips . . .

I'm getting sicker by the minute. I don't see how a draft can be avoided.

[LisaL]

10. If we draft a 100 % of our population

We still won't have enough people to fight China. China got a billion people, for crying out loud.

[barb162]

23. I wish they would stop this strutting around

like we have endless resources and endless people willing to die for their crazy wars. I suggest Jenna and the other twin (what's her face) go to the draft board tomorrow and offer their services. They can stick their tongues out at the enemy and get them boozed up.

[0007]

51. What a tongue, 'eh?


Jenna Bush when she was twelve years old, thirty days ago.

[nolabels]

30. Thats not counting 2 or 3 billion others that will be pissed off or now..

have a grudge and even think we must be stopped at any cost. Of course, can you really blame them, after all we first sent a chimp into space, then got real cocky and installed one as Commander and Chief.

And they called it Monkey love (old Donny Osmond tune)


http://www.livejournal.com/users/saralicious/208872.html

[Enrico]

58. I second that..

Bush is going to get us into WW3 if he doesn't watch his redneck mouth.

[LisaL]

11. dupe

[bluestateguy]

6. Have fun! I'm not going!

I have other priorities than military service. I have a life and it does not belong to George W. Bush, Halliburton and other conservative white men. They and their sons can go and fight a war in North Korea and China if two wars in this Administration was not enough.

[leesa]

19. Hear! Hear! We are living the old sixties question..."what if they gave

a war and no one came?"

[Behind the Aegis]

46. I'll be stateside with you!!!

If you believe Kinsey, at least 10% of us (me included) will not be going as we are "incompatible" with military service! Then, there will be the ones like Chris Rock who said; "If gays want to serve in the army, let'em, cuz I ain't going! I don't care if I see a Russian tank rolling down Flatbush Ave, I ain't fightin'! Call me a faggot! I'll be the faggot with two legs!" And finally, there will be the ones who can't go for some reason or another, only to become Re-pugs that demand you send YOUR children or you "ain't a real Amerikun!"

This administration is hell-bent on destroying our nation one way or another...either through piss poor economics or getting us killed in fruitless (there is a joke there I know it!) wars!

Brightest Blessings!

[pinniped]

7. Doesn't sound like asshole's "I want to be a peace presidunce"...

BS makeover lasted too long.

[The Traveler]

8. Ready?

What a freaking idiot. We are totally unprepared to contest a Chinese move to conquer Taiwan. Politically and economically, the Chinese have exploited American trade policy and our predicament in Iraq to full advantage. We cannot truly fault them for indulging in some mild expansionism if we make it so easy for them.

No, I do not trust the Chinese. Their treatment of Tibet provides adequate basis for this distrust. Yet, Bush and the globalists have fulfilled Lenin's prophecy: "When it comes time to hang the West, a capitalist will sell me the rope." We outsource engineering jobs to China to exploit lower labor costs while they mass missiles against Taiwan.

Is it just me or is it stupid, at this point, for Bush to be saying, "Just bring it" to the Chinese?

[LisaL]

9. I think it's stupid

China?
China's population is 5 times more than that of US.
They are not doing so good in Iraq, which only has 25 million people, and they want to fight China?

[aquart]

12. How many of them are enlisting?

[cal04]

13. Is anyone going to bring up PNAC

The Sunday Herald article highlighted the following goals from the 2000 report, which it termed an "American grand strategy" and "blueprint of world domination":

The U.S. must take military control of the Gulf region whether or not Saddam Hussein is in power: "While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein."
The U.S. must "fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theatre wars" as a "core mission"
The U.S. forces are "the cavalry on the new American frontier"
The report builds upon the 1992 draft document " Defense Planning Guidance," which claimed that the U.S. must "discourage advanced industrial nations from challenging our leadership or even aspiring to a larger regional or global role"
Permanent U.S. bases in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, whether or not Saddam Hussein is in power
Increasing military pressure on China: "it is time to increase the presence of American forces in southeast Asia" which will lead to "American and allied power providing the spur to the process of democratisation in China"
"the creation of 'US Space Forces', to dominate space, and the total control of cyberspace to prevent 'enemies' using the internet against the US"
The report contains ambivalent language toward bioterrorism and genetic warfare: "New methods of attack -- electronic, 'non-lethal', biological -- will be more widely available ... combat likely will take place in new dimensions, in space, cyberspace, and perhaps the world of microbes ... advanced forms of biological warfare that can 'target' specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool"
Development of "world-wide command-and-control system" to contain dangerous regimes of North Korea, Libya, Syria, and Iran.
Some of PNAC's members and associates have been implicated in conflict of interest scandals involving the ways that they profit from the wars and military spending that they promote. For more information, see Who Profits From War? .

[alittlelark]

17. Read my mind, you did! n/t

[Bernardo de La Paz]

41. Genocidal Racist PNAC intentions

"the world of microbes ... advanced forms of biological warfare that can 'target' specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool"

Blatant genocidal racists.

[alittlelark]

14. WWIII - here we come!!!!

China considers us a waste of oxygen that buys all their stupid plastic shit no one else will buy.

China has been around for Millenia - we have been around for Centuries.

They see us as a speed-bump in their future history books

The PNAC knows that and is attempting to 'fix it'

They are fools.

[Union Thug]

15. Maybe Kenny Boy and Unka Dick

Can pick up a gun and fly their assess on over to fire the first shots?

For myself, I'd tell them to fuck themselves if it came to a draft, and I tell my 18 year old to do the same thing.

Fuck you george, fuck your draft. You won't get mine..

[Hekate]

16. Look out world, here he comes....

:wow:

Kinda like how I felt when I read that W's pet warmongers yearn to bring back nukes -- all the quotes were exceedingly rational, except for the part about the so-called bunker-busters being "usable tactical nukes," like they really meant to use them.

They are insane.

Hekate
I want my country back

[leesa]

18. These people are completely demented.

Know anything about human rights America?

This is great actually. They are exposing themselves for the dangerous criminals they are.

[burrowowl]

20. Beyond demented

what are they going to do, nuke China?

[still_one]

21. Bull shit

that would be the end of the world as we know it

[LisaL]

22. Everything republicans do

just scares me to death.
But this one takes the cake.
China?

[savistocate]

25. How fitting only actor of any talent--

outstanding at playing psycho villains. Ron Silver. Never could
stomach his personna before his displaying his R pride in Militarism.

[CHIMO]

24. I Simply Cannot Believe This

China is not Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran nor Syria. It has a military, an air force and more. We are back to May/June 2001.

I think that it is time for the NATO countries to reconsider their commitment to the US as the leader of this organization and whether or not it is required any longer.
Let everyone start their own wars.

Deal me out.

[Nordic]

26. maybe they should move all their factories from China before the attack

stupid dickwads.

Are they all drunk?

[BrotherBuzz]

27. "tough-talking platform" will only bite our collective ass

stupid is, as stupid does.....Jeez, I'm in a pissy mood for good reason!

[renegade000]

28. "outdated path" of seeking to develop advanced weaponry?

pot, meet kettle

[TankLV]

29. Oh, great - just when you think things can't be any worse...

nt

Peace, prosperity and hope were all so 20th century anyway.

[Julian English]

31. Undoubtedly both are scared

Yes, both the regimes of China and North Korea are scared of the threat and reasonably so--especially after the way we have so successfully accomplished regime change in Iraq.

[Dr Fate]

44. Yeah, China will also be a "Cake-walk"

Good luck to that!

[Flagg]

53. PLease, tell me you're being sarcastic.

[okoboji]

32. lol

Do you really think Corporate America will allow *Bush to take on China?

If they did.... you would no longer have, Wal-Mart, K-mart, Target.... etc

NBA & Football Stars would no longer have their foot wear to play sports...

OMG ... worse yet, Where oh where would our computer and cars come from?

taking on China would not be an option.

[The_Casual_Observer]

34. I guess that they forgot that China has ICBMs

It isn't a matter of sending over a half assed pile of junk bradleys and abrams and illiterate army men for a turkey shoot of abandoned farmers.

[flaminbats]

38. they still think Star Wars can conquer the world...

if we nuke the human race out of existance, then human rights violations would no longer be a problem. :nuke:

[Only Me]

35. Bush's ego...playing policeman to the world while his own struggle.

Wonder if the hand of God is guiding this comment too?

[MaryBear]

36. I hope they had the sense

to issue a prior warning to the Chinese of this inside political ploy.

[MisterP]

37. and Syria! Iran! Cuba! France!

Freedonia!
Heil PNAC!

[porkrind]

39. Time for the GOP'ers "Two-Minute Hate"

Remember citizens of "1984": Oceana is always at war with Eastasia. That is unless they are at war with Eurasia.

Remember, WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH !!!

Now lets go get that fucking Emmanuel Goldstein!

[Zero Division]

42. Bah....it's just saber-rattling for their bloodthirsty supporters....

Freeper-types get high off of the glorification of war. We all know that.

[thecrow]

43. What. The. Fuck.

[dave123williams]

45. Yeah; they're heating it up on

Iran (they keep trying to say the news from Iraq is GOOD), North Korea (even though we're moving our troops back from their border), China (like we're going to fuck with our biggest manufacturing partner)...so much sabre-rattling...

Not very good for world opinion, or real-politik stability, IMHO.

[Z-E-R-0]

47. Anyone Heard of the "Blue Team" NeoCons?

If not, they are the group of NeoCons who thought China was the greatest threat to America. They lost their influence after 9/11. But, maybe they are starting to crawl back.

[MisterP]

59. wonderful news! the Committee on the Present Danger

who, in the 50's-70's, exaggerated Soviet power so aggressive policies could be justified, is back. And Joe Lieberman-Whom-We-Must-Not-Criticize is a founder! Whoopee, we're all going to die!

[NewHampshireDem]

48. If you think this is just "sabre rattling" or other hot air, read this:

http://www.globalpolicy.org/empire/intervention/2004/0721chinaus.htm

http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/200477.asp

http://www.techcentralstation.com/080204E.html

If you can still sleep tonight, read 'em again. This is the most important election in history, becasue if * wins, it will be our last.

[area51]

49. "Beijing's 'outdated path' of seeking to develop advanced weaponry"

Riiight. How about our outdated path of our govt. stealing more & more of our tax $ to fund more & more idiotic weapons like "star wars" crap. How about wisely using our tax dollars to keep jobs here in the US and give us universal healthcare.

[drscm]

50. Now if we can get them to push for democracy in the U.S.

Warmongers...

[mumon]

52. these guys are jerkin their gerkins too much

Here's Professor Krugman's cold water:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/31/opinion/31krugman.html?hp

Last month a Knight-Ridder report suggested that U.S. forces were effectively ceding many urban areas to insurgents. Last Sunday The Times confirmed that while the world's attention was focused on Najaf, western Iraq fell firmly under rebel control. Representatives of the U.S.-installed government have been intimidated, assassinated or executed.

Other towns, like Samarra, have also fallen to insurgents. Attacks on oil pipelines are proliferating. And we're still playing whack-a-mole with Moktada al-Sadr: his Mahdi Army has left Najaf, but remains in control of Sadr City, with its two million people. The Christian Science Monitor reports that "interviews in Baghdad suggest that Sadr is walking away from the standoff with a widening base and supporters who are more militant than before."

For a long time, anyone suggesting analogies with Vietnam was ridiculed. But Iraq optimists have, by my count, already declared victory three times. First there was "Mission Accomplished" - followed by an escalating insurgency. Then there was the capture of Saddam - followed by April's bloody uprising. Finally there was the furtive transfer of formal sovereignty to Ayad Allawi, with implausible claims that this showed progress - a fantasy exploded by the guns of August.

[Disturbed]

54. These Neo Fascists...

are a clear and present danger to the USA. I believe that if an election can't get them out of power and the Congress balance of power doesn't change a 2nd American Revolution may be the only solution to keep the USA from destruction.

[sniffa]

55. we're ready to send your kids off to die some more

but we're not ready to send ourseLves (or our own kids).

pLease do a pubLic service: teabag a chickenhawk today.

[arwalden]

56. ATTENTION: It's Not Real. It's Just Rolled-Up-Socks Stuffed In His Pants.

It's an illusion. The world knows that we are impotent to do anything more than what we're stuck doing in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Unfortunately heartland America and average Josephine in the city believe the illusion and the myth that American military might is indefatigable and that we cannot be defeated.

WRONG!

-- Allen

[BiggJawn]

57. "Uh, Karl? Mrs. Walton on line three..."

"She wants to know what's 'this fucking bullshit' about whupping up on China is all about...Says she'll shut down the whole country and throw half of Indiana out of work if we fuck with her supply of cheap Chinese shit..."