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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 02:51 PM
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Soldier, Democratic supporter among those barred entrance
Depending on what side of the fence people are on, crowd control was at an all-time high or low at the Wachovia Arena in Wilkes-Barre Township during President Bush's visit Friday.

A 27-year-old registered Republican and member of the U.S. Army, along with three other people around him, was forced to leave the arena before getting inside.
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"I thought seeing Bush would be enough to sway my opinion one way or the other. After today, it definitely has swayed," he said.

While waiting in line, he noticed a stranger standing alone and invited the person to stand with him.

"I didn't think that would be a problem," he said.

It turned out to be.

Individuals from the Bush campaign spotted the individual with the soldier and identified the person as a Democratic supporter.

The spotters, and eventually police, asked the Democratic supporter to remove a jacket, a sweater and some other articles of clothing in what was described as basically a police search.

http://www.zwire.com/site/printerFriendly.cfm?brd=2259&dept_id=455154&newsid=13207582

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Hog lover Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 02:52 PM
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1. Can we say "paranoia" or
"police state"?
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 02:54 PM
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2. Nazi Amerika 2004
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 02:55 PM
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3. That's some scary shyte...
but we got a voter for Kerry out of it and maybe a few more!
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 03:23 PM
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11. Bush Shyte!
The bush base has a talent for alienating potential supporters. That's the only thing they are good at right now. Keep it up, Bushites :)
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 07:58 PM
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23. Hey - this man needs all the support he can get
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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 02:57 PM
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4. what a bunch of bullshit
a democratic near the president! call the national guard! o wait we don't have any left...
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:07 AM
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34. Sure have come a long way from the 80s when
Reagan actively sought support among Dems, thus the term "Reagan Democrat." I was never one of those and wasn't happy with the defectors, but never could have imagined the day when a Dem would be unwelcome at, and deliberately kept out of, a Presidential appearance.
If your tax dollars feed and house the lying sack of shit, you ought to have a right to hear him speak. Despicable.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 03:03 PM
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5. When these people start barring even registered repukes from
attending their own conferences, then this is beyond
paranoia, these people have reached escape velocity
and are on their way to Luna.

New Information Shows Bush Indecisive, Paranoid, Delusional

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Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 03:04 PM
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6. Does anyone else find this part alarming?
"The soldier said that when he asked why the person was being hassled, the spotters said the Democrat's name wasn't on their "master list."

Master list? Is that anything like Schindler's List? :wtf:
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 03:13 PM
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8. Scares the heck out of me. Is this how they hope to get Reagan
Democrats? And asking someone to disrobe in order to find a logoed T-shirt or something is beyond reason. This is not democracy.
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Rene Donating Member (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 11:07 PM
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32. a legal solution
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renegade000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 03:15 PM
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10. well schindler's list was the list of people to save
i believe a "master list" would be something less benevolent
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 03:36 PM
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15. Right! More like an Enemies List..
a la nixon only deadlier!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 03:30 PM
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14. The Master List was the thing that disturbed me the MOST!
Then of course the lie "we don't have it"! If you don't have it, how the hell do you know someone's name isn't on it???

What is this Master List shit anyway?

I have never been part of the conspiracy theory crowd, butjust the idea of anybody having a list is just WRONG!!!
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MaggieSwanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 03:49 PM
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17. my experience with the "Master List"
A trio of us here in Iowa performed an act of civil disobedience at a * rally last Friday.
In preparation, I actually went and got tickets to the event.
For each ticket, the volunteers entered a name, phone number, and address into a computer database along with the serial number on the ticket.
I'm pretty sure that's what they use as their "Master List".
I cannot tell you that with certainty, because my ticket was taken away and ripped up right before I was arrested, but it is my best guess.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 03:09 PM
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7. bush's tummy get all upset when someone disagrees with him.

New Information Shows Bush Indecisive, Paranoid, Delusional

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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 03:14 PM
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9. What this means is they had an entire intel operation going on vs Dems.
They had to have pictures--in advance--of area Democratic supporters. They had to have an "eye in the sky" operations with intel analysts comparing those pics with people in the crowd.

The story behind these operations would be fascinating; and damning!
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 03:27 PM
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12. No, I think they use their gut feelings to identify democrats. You
can easily spot democrats by that inquiring curious look
in their eyes and by the fact their lips don't droop.

New Information Shows Bush Indecisive, Paranoid, Delusional

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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 03:39 PM
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16. Yeah, I'm wondering how much Secret Service intelligence...
... and technology is being used to filter the crowds of Bush political campaign appearances. I wonder because I'm thinking use of the Secret Service (or State/local police) would be OK if the goal were protecting the President by barring whackjobs or those carrying, but political profiling by the Secret Service or police *MUST* be crossing some line that should not be crossed.

If Bush wants his crowds politically-screened, then he should hire a private firm like Halliburton to handle the screening. Use of government resources in this way shouldn't be allowed.
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juliagoolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 03:28 PM
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13. This kind of thing just doest not happen at Dem Rallys
We had a protestor at one in my local county today yelling at David Van Os for supporting the removal of the 10 commandments from the TX capital. (Currently being considered in US Supreme Court) She yelled and carried on..for a while until she ran out of steam and left. Everyone was kind of STUNNED but she had her say and then we went on with our meeting.

She was accusing him of not being a christian.. HE is NOT ONE>>

HE IS JEWISH!! When did America beceome a theocracy!~?

It doesn't matter who he is, or what his religion is. This is America where anyone can be in office as long as they are an evangelical christian.

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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 04:08 PM
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18. At the Kerry rally in Pittsburgh last Wednesday, 20/30 repub. protesters
were given homemande chocolate chip cookies wrapped in cellophane, with a Kerry Edwards sticker on top, and hugged by the cookie bearing Kerry supporter! Oh, the inhumanity!
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 04:16 PM
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20. That's great!
Love the idea of killing the right wing radicals with kindness (chocolate chip cookies and hugs) at the Kerry rallies.

It warms the cockles of my heart to know that come November 2nd, two jack-booted thugs (and their evil neo-con administration) may be voted out.

I pray for sanity in my government. Right now, there's no adult supervision.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 07:27 PM
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21. damn that terrist cookie maker!
you know chimpy doesn't make mistakes...except for appointing
Paul O"Neill..er I mean some people
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Amigust Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 04:09 PM
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19. In Bush's be-afraid world, its a message that Democrats
Edited on Sat Oct-23-04 04:20 PM by Amigust
are the ones to be afraid of.

It's frightening to imagine what will happen in this country in the aftermath of another stolen election. Republicans will have even more to be paranoid about.

But it's also frightening to imagine if there were NOT a loud enough outcry to set it right, as there was not after the 2000 theft, and the 30 year extremist takeover.

Welcome to the United Mega Banana Republic, compliments of your Corporatist Republican Extremism Party.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 07:54 PM
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22. that's tooooo cute!
although I'd never eat a cookie made a opposing candidate's supporters! yikes! maybe ooooh, just maybe she put exlax in it, and, and... yeah, they were really hungry from all their Kerry-Skerry chanting, like they do, and yelling flip flop, and ATE the cookies! yes! and... whew, I need to chill.


LOL..

GO Kerry.

(Hey, I've seen these Bushco's at Kerry rallys, they are scary, they make fun of lesbians, chant hateful taunts, and ignore intelligent discourse when approached)
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 08:00 PM
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24. Paranoia will destroy ya
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 08:07 PM
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25. Bare you t-shirt in the name of Zog, er, W, citizen!
spotters, eh?
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 09:18 PM
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26. Wonder if next they'll want to round up Democrats into camps? nt
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 09:38 PM
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27. This is an odd quote from the story:
"What you have to understand," Brozowksi said. "The Republican National Convention had control over the whole arena. They were calling the shots."

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The RN "Convention" ???????
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 09:40 PM
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28. Committee n/t
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 09:56 PM
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30. That's the one that bothered me....
Someone in WB should look to see if they are indeed paying for the event. If the city is paying for the security then Fuck Him. They have no right ot harrass tax paying citizens....

A law suit should be filed against the harrasing officers, the mayor of the city and the RNC......
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 09:42 PM
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29. Is it any wonder that * and Cheney are speaking to crowds of tens
while Kerry and Edwards address thousands? That was the case here last week - Cheney spoke to a group of about 100 (in Hibbing?), while Kerry spoke before 30,000 at the Metrodome. As burned out as most people are about the election, which is going to be more effective? Turning out 30,000 and getting them motivated or having a chat with 100 people who's heads are already so far up * ass that they have to wipe every time * lets loose a beer fart?
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:07 PM
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31. That's a great story.
Exposes the brown shirts for what they are. Very effective. Thanks for sharing.

And, yes. We should all be very afraid. :scared:

-Laelth
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:06 AM
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33. Pretty wolfie
I prefer real wolves to repukes any day.

Master list! and if you are not on it, do you get rounded up and .....
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